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Welcome To Russell Brunson’s Marketing Secrets Podcast. So, the big question is this, “How are entrepreneurs like us, who didn’t cheat and take on venture capital, who are spending money from our own wallets, how do we market in a way that lets us get our products and services and things that we believe in out to the world… and yet still remain profitable?” That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Russell Brunson, and welcome to MarketingSecrets.com.
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May 4, 2017

Behind the scenes of what happened over the last ten years to make that experience happen.

On this episode Russell talks about a Facebook Live interview that he did with Tony Robbins and how it was the first thing he had ever asked Tony to do in their 10 year relationship.

Here are some of the cool things you will learn in this episode:

  • How Russell was able to do a Facebook Live with Tony Robbins to promote his new book.
  • Why Russell has never looked at his relationship with Tony Robbins in terms of what Tony could do for him.
  • And why the ROI with relationships is the cultivating and building of that relationship.

So listen below to why Russell believes so strongly in building relationships without expecting something in return.

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What’s up everybody, welcome to Marketing In Your Car. I have good news and bad news, you guys. You want the bad news or the good news? The good news is I got some cool stuff to share with you. The bad news is, maybe this is good news, I don’t know. I think, and I’m a little nervous about this, but I think I’m ready, you guys ready for this, to rebrand the podcast. What?

It’s been called Marketing In Your Car for the last, I don’t know how long I’ve done this for, but I bought the domain and concept initially ten years ago. It’s been cool and I like it, but I’m thinking about changing. I wanted to change it, I think we’ve talked about this a couple of times. You are my therapist sometimes on these things. I was going to change the name of it a couple of times, but I haven’t, and I haven’t and I haven’t’. Then yesterday something happened. I had to find something that wasn’t just better, but a billion times better and I think I may have got it. I’m not going to tell you what it is yet, but I’m excited because it’s like a billion times better. So there may be a new rebrand coming up here soon. So if you guys like it, you’ve got to let me. I’m excited for it, so excited.

So that’s something I’m going to give you. I gotta step back. Today was a good day, yesterday was a good day, yesterday was insane. We had our certified partners in town. We had a big group of 45 people here, and some of our inner circle members were the ones that were actually some of the business owners that the certified partners had a chance to interview them, figure them out and then go out and actually build the funnels all night for them. Then they come back and present their thing. It was really fun.

It was fun, to kind of capstone at the end of the certified partner program. I have a chance to speak to them at the very beginning, and then kind of sneak in and watch what they were doing and that kind of stuff, and it was really cool. Now most of  them left today. And then, yesterday the other cool thing, as you know we’re in the book launch. We’re almost, a few books away from 30 thousand books, we’ll definitely pass it today. And not that this matters, but on the, if you look at how much money is made inside of the cart for every book. Probably tomorrow my guess is we will pass $1 million dollars collected through this funnel. Through the front end funnel, not counting the backend stuff, which is also really cool. Which means the Expert Secrets book will officially be inducted into the two comma club, and we’ll order my own big old record plaque. Yes, I’m just like you guys, I want one every single time I have a funnel that makes a million bucks. We will be ordering one of those.

Today or tomorrow we will be passing 40 thousand active Clickfunnel members as well. So many cool things happening. That is so exciting. And then to step back on another thing, as I’ve been doing this book launch, as you guys know, I’ve been doing all these Facebook Lives, these interviews and they’ve been going awesome. Kind of exhausting, not going to lie. Plus, we’re doing a juice fast this week, which is the second juice fast I’ve done this month, which basically means when I’m not juice fasting I’m overeating, because I keep having to come back to it.

What’s funny, Dave Woodward and his wife Carrie, were teasing me behind my back because I got all these guys to do the juice fast with me this time. Dave was like, “Why is this so hard? Why isn’t Russell complaining.” And they’re like, “Russell’s a professional dieter.” And we were laughing because I actually am, if you think about it. I spent 12 years of my life as a wrestler, wrestling. And what I did, every single Monday I would come in and be 30 pounds overweight and every Friday I would be 30 pounds down and I would weigh in and then start the vicious cycle over again. Over and over and over again for 12 years of my life.

I didn’t mind it in wrestling, but you don’t realize the pattern that sets. So I had this epiphany the other day when I’m hanging out with Dave and Carrie, I might have already talked about this, I don’t remember. But basically my pattern in life is that same way. Every Monday, from Monday to Friday, I’m at the office and I eat perfectly, I usually lose about 5 pounds a week.

Then Friday, Saturday, Sunday I just can’t stop myself. It’s insane. So I think it has to do with my wrestling patterns that I instilled over 12 years of dieting all week and then pigging out all weekend. That’s my pattern and why I can’t ever lose weight. Because I lose weight Monday through Friday and then the last three days, I had my weigh ins and then I can eat whatever I want, then Monday I start over again. So I’ve been professionally dieting now for 25 years, which is kind of cool, except for its lame.

Why would I tell you that story? Oh yeah, that’s why I’m on the juice fast again. Someday I’ll figure this out. It’s a psychological problem I know, I gotta fix that. I gotta fix my brain. Which I actually working on from multiple different angles, so that’s good. Now that I’m aware of it I can effect it, which is hopefully the key for some of you guys.

Alright, step back,  it was really cool. We had my interview with Tony Robbins yesterday, he was interviewing me. I’ve interviewed him before, he interviewed me on New Money Masters Series. We’ve kind of done back and forth on some of these things. And it was crazy because in true Tony fashion, he tells you, “Hey, we’re going to start at this time.” And then they shift it 10 times throughout the day. So I felt bad because we had other poddcst interviews lined up and we had to keep bumping people and shipping things around. So if I bumped you yesterday because of Tony, I’m apologizing, but come on. It’s Tony, it was so cool.

I’ve known Tony now for almost 10 years, which is crazy. It’s been a decade since I’ve known him, which is insanely cool. And in that time, I’ve never asked him to do anything, I just love him and what he does so much that I was like, how can I help him? We helped, we created a book funnel for him. I paid my own costs, paid my own flights, paid my hotel. It all came out of my own pocket, I spent probably 20 grand building a book funnel for him and just gave it to him as a gift.

I’ve coached his people and I’ve helped consult him and other people on his team. Iv’e done a lot of things like that. I’ve spoken at his events, anything I can do, I’ve tried to do and just help him, and not with an ulterior motive like, “Someday, he’s going to get me.” I have a joke with one of my buddies who always jokes, “I’m your real friend, I’m not here because you’re successful, I’m your real friend.” I’m like, “Whatever, it’s a long con. You’re waiting ten years from now to cash out.” So it’s always this joke, “How’s the long con treating you?”

So why I say that, with Tony it was never a long con. “Okay, ten years from now he’s going to maybe promote me.” It was never like that, it was like, Tony’s freaking awesome, he’s helped me so much. How can I help and serve and give back. I don’t think I could ever give back what I got from him. So anything we’re doing is just cool. But think about, I helped him from giving what I’m best at and gave that to him for free. I paid him to come to my event. I’m a customer. I’ve done all those things, and just because I’m trying to give back to him in a little way. And obviously he gives, every time I help a little bit, he gives back so much more.

He came to our event, we paid a lot of money for him to come to the event as our keynote, but then he came back and went for 5 hours and just blew everyone’s minds and it was insane. Anyway, long story short. I have never asked Tony to promote anything ever. This came around, the book came out and it was the first time I was ever like, “hey, would you be willing to do this?” And he’s like, “Yeah.” And what’s crazy about that is I think so many people go into relationships, looking at what’s ROI for me in this deal? Should I invest my time and I think that that’s the reason why most people don’t get deals to happen and they don’t have longer term things happen. You know what I mean?

If went to Tony like, “Alright what’s my angle, how am I going to get him to help me?” It never would have happened, I don’t think.  But because I was like, okay Tony’s the man, how can I help him? To now 10 years later, a long time later, but 10 years later he comes back and does this really cool and it was amazing.

So some of the results. We did the Facebook Live interview. We actually did it first on Skype because he just wanted to not have it live, live. In case, something bad  happens. So we did live and he’s like, “cool, you guys can run it.” So we took that and edited it real quick, chopped off the beginning and the end. Put it through an OBS, which is a streaming platform, and did a Facebook Live on Tony’s page. We had 1.8 to 1.9 thousand people watching it the entire time. 5 hours into it, we had 70 thousand views and 3 or 4 hundred thousand reach. This morning it was 100 thousand views and close to a million reach. I think 19 thousand clicks have come from it.

Which is crazy, if we were to buy a Facebook ad and get 19 thousand clicks, let’s say it…I mean that’s probably 20-30 grand in ad costs just to get that. And this is all coming organically from Tony’s page, his recommendation. We’re selling tons and tons of books. Then this virtual book tour, one of the cool things we’re doing is with everyone, we’re doing the Facebook Live on their page. So it lives on their fan page and then we’re going in, their making us admin on their account and we’re actually paying my money to boost their Facebook Live to their audience.

So now we had the opportunity where they’re allowing us to spend my money to promote to their audience, and now it’s going out to all 2.2 million of his followers it’s going to keep growing and growing. And my guess, next we’ll have a million views on that video. It’s just huge, it’s a huge winner for us. We were going crazy celebrating and we continue to, and I was just so grateful. First off that Tony was willing to do that because he’s so protective of his brand and everything. It means a lot to me that he was willing to do that. But second off, I just want you guys to realize that I can’t tell you how many people a day that I meet that come in that are all about, you can tell as they look at you……I just assume it’s what really good looking women struggle with, you meet a guy and you can tell that they don’t really care about you, they’re just interested in everything else.

I get that a lot. It’s hard. As soon as I meet people, even at the certified partner event, a couple of people I met, I was just like, I could tell I was a piece of meat. They were looking me up and trying to tell, this is how we’re going to get this thing from him. It’s just like, I hate that. Whereas, people I do deals with, similar to Ton or whatever, people who come in and genuinely care and serve and help and do stuff.

Last year, I think we only promoted one person last year, Stu McLaren, why? Stu’s awesome. For the last ten years of our life he’s never once asked me for anything. He’s always helped me and served me and given me cool opportunities to serve other people, just such a cool person. So when he came he was the only person we promoted for the last year. And this year we’re probably not promoting anyone. It’s just like, we don’t need to do that. We don’t have to do that. Tony didn’t have to do that. It didn’t help him at all. But the right people, it’s like you’re giving back to them from the relationship.

If I can say anything to you guys, I would say start focusing on relationships without trying to figure out, what’s the ROI in this relationship. I know that I’m very big on that. If you take the disc profile, I think it’s the disc, one of the traits of, one of my traits, everything for me is ROI. What’s the ROI of this conversation? What’s the ROI of doing anything? If there’s not an ROI I don’t like doing it. But with relationships I try to not have an ROI. Just go into it and look at the other person as a human being as opposed to an investment.  And just be like, how can I help this person? What do I got that can serve them?

And if you do that from a real, not a fake standpoint where you’re actually in it for the long con, but you’re in it for, this dude’s awesome. I want to help him. Good things will come to you, and that’s how relationships are actually built. You don’t get into relationships with people, typically where the first date you’re trying to size them up and figure out what you get out of it. It’s the one’s where you’re coming in and serving and turn it into amazing relationships. Especially when both people are serving, that’s when the most magic happens.

Anyway, there’s a book called Dig Your Well Before You’re Thirsty, I think it was Harvey Mckay? I don’t know, I never actually read it, but I read the title and that’s the gist I’m trying to share with you guys today. Dig your well before you’re thirsty, because someday you’ll be thirsty. Someday you’re going to have a book launch in ten years from now or whatever that is. Because I dug that well, and I’ve been digging it for ten years, now when it comes, now it’s actually happening.

Same thing in this, it’s interesting, this business for me was always, used to be all about reciprocation, people promote you if you promoted them. It’s like 3 years ago when we launched Clickfunnels we said, we can’t do that anymore. We just can’t. Otherwise our business won’t be able to grow. And it was scary for me, I was like how are we going to grow this company if I’m not reciprocating? Well how else can I reciprocate?

So for the market, for partners, for everyone I’m like, I’ve got to reciprocate by just giving everything all the time. And what’s crazy is people who are promoting this book launch, I look and there’s some of my mentors, people who I look up to more than almost anyone. I look at Mark Joyner, my very first mentor. I look at Alex Mandossian. All these people helping us promote and none of them are doing it like, “Russell you promote me and I’ll promote you back.” They’re all doing it like “man, Russell you have given so much to whatever.” To them, to the community, or whatever and now they’re promoting. It was insane.

So I almost feel like, I always thought the only way to get to do that was through reciprocation and it kind of is true, but it’s a different kind of reciprocation. Not just you promote me I’ll promote you. It’s like legitimately spend the next three years of your life seeing how you can serve your market and the people around you and people and just figure that out. And then when you do they’ll say yes. And that’s cool. That’s really, really cool.

So it was a big break through and hopefully it was good for you guys. So dig your well before you’re thirsty. Build relationships without trying to get anything in return. And then in the long term who knows what will happen. But something might happen, whereas if you go the other way, nothing is going to happen. There you go, you guys.

And the last thing I’ll say is when you cultivate and build those relationships, that is the gift in and of itself. That’s the ROI. I look at Mark Joyner, my first mentor, who we had come out for Funnel Hacker TV, we’ve worked with him. That relationship with him for me is huge. That was worth way more than any him promoting. You know what I mean? Just the benefits of that, getting to know him and being able to know him in a more personal level, was worth 10x more than him ever promoting for us. So I think that’s the result. Getting deep in the relationship is the result, that’s the ROI you’re looking for, any other ROI’s that come are just gravy.

So focus on that relationship and how you can help people and that’s the key. Anyway, I  know that’s not like marketing tactile, like what’s the tactics? Here’s the tactic, become really good friends with people and try to help them. It’s not a sexy tactic, but it’s the most important one. So there you go. Alright, I’m out you guys. Have an amazing day and I’ll talk to you guys soon. Bye everybody.

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