Can two seemingly conflicting marketing techniques actually work together when used correctly?
Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you to another amazing, awesome, exciting episode of Marketing in your Car. Hey guys and gals, I had a really fun experience last weekend that I wanted to share with you. I joined a mastermind group called the Ocean's Four mastermind group. It was out of Vegas. I joined it because it was just a different type of mastermind group.
It was only meeting one time. It wasn't one you have to join for a whole year so I knew the commitment timetable wasn't too big. The other reason was Ocean's Four was because there were four people that were in the mastermind group. Two of them I've been studying a lot for a long time. I was really intrigued to get their opinions and ideas.
The two guys that I went to go see, one of them, his name is Andre Chaperon. He has a bunch of products. By far, his best and most prolific is a product called Autoresponse Madness. The other guy was a guy named Ben Settle who runs BenSettle.com. He's got a print newsletter called The Email Players Club. What's interesting is I've been watching these guys for the last year, 18 months or so, and trying to understand.
They have two very different perspectives on email. With Andre and Autoresponse Madness, his whole goal he teaches is that you need to create a soap opera sequence. If somebody joins your list and over the next 20 to 40, however many days you create this soap opera, it's bringing your audience in and engaging them. You're opening loops in one email and closing them in other emails, having many episodes and this big huge story line which I think is really cool. It engages people and pulls them in.
You look at the other person, Ben Settle. His model is very different. You join his list. From that point forward, everyday you get an email with an email I call them Seinfeld emails. It's kind of like the TV show Seinfeld where they're basically emails about nothing. Everyday, he sends an email out about whatever, and somehow always ties it back to his core product which is The Email Players Club.
He's relentless. Everyday since I joined his list, I've gotten an email. I don’t think he's ever missed a day. Every single day, it tells you some random thing that happened that day and then boom, pushes you back to his product. Again, two very different styles. In fact, it was kind of funny, Ben at the mastermind said, “If you were to look at our styles, I would look at what Andre does as a sniper, getting up on the rooftop, aiming, and trying to make this perfect thing and crafting it so you can perfectly close the sale and close the deal whereas with me,” this is Ben talking, “it's kind of more like walking into the mall with a shotgun and just unloading as many rounds as possible as fast as you can.”
That's the difference between their two styles. It was interesting because from their perspective, what they do could conflict. I think everyone else in the room, they think it conflicts. What's interesting is as I've been building out our funnels over the last 18 months that I've been watching these guys, I'm a big believer in both of their styles but in a very specific and very important sequence.
What I've been teaching our students, what we've been doing is when someone joins your list, you put them through a seven to day day email soap opera sequence with the core goal of that to build the bond, to build the attractive character, and build the audience's engagement with the attractive character, to help them to build that bond to get to know the person and to make them want to continue to open emails and purchase products, and be engaged with that person.
After that initial soap opera sequence is done, then we drop people onto a broadcast list. Then we start doing the Ben Settle style daily Seinfeld emails. As you look at my whole philosophy and belief patterns with email marketing is you lead with the soap opera and after they watch the soap opera, then you dump them onto the Seinfeld emails. I think that as a one-two punch, I think it's the smartest. I think it's brilliant. I think it's the best thing to do.
I think if you go directly to the Ben Settle style Seinfeld emails, the audience doesn't have a chance to build a relationship with attractive character. If you just do Andre's soap opera sequences, you do a soap opera but eventually, you just keep writing this thing and you want to kill yourself because they're intricate and it takes awhile to write these things out. If you're carrying on those story lines, they're lasting days, months, and years. I think it's really difficult.
If somebody joins your list in the middle of this thing, they have no idea of all the back story. It's like trying to watch a show like 24 where you start halfway through the season. It doesn't really make any sense. What I think is the blending of the two things. If somebody joins your list, initially have a seven to ten day sequence that's a soap opera sequence that builds a relationship with the attractive character, and as soon as that sequence is over, then drop them on a broadcast list where you do the daily Seinfeld emails.
I think the blend of those two worlds is the most powerful way you could possibly do email marketing. It was really fun to have a chance to go meet those guys and learn the system they have behind each of their businesses, but I think more importantly, how to blend those two things together into what I think is the perfect, most ideal way to your email marketing.
I'm at the office now. I appreciate you guys listening to the Marketing in your Car podcast. I hope you get a ton of value out of it. By the way, if you want some help with your funnel, we have a new coaching program set up. We're doing some amazing things with it. You just have to go to BlackBoxFunnel.com/application.php. If you do that and apply, you have a chance to work with me and we can look at your sales funnel and have some fun with it. That's about it for today, guys. I will talk to you all again soon.
How to shift your focus to the #1 most important aspect of your business, and how to use that to triple your sales this year.
Good morning everybody. I hope you guys are all doing awesome out there. Welcome to the Marketing in your Car podcast. I'm heading to the office today. I'm excited for this week. I hope you are too. Some of you guys know if you listen to my podcast religiously, you know that over the last week, we've been pulling some crazy long hours. We had three nights in a row.
The first night, we were here until three and then I got three hours of sleep. The next day, we were here until four and I got three hours of sleep. The next day, we were here until 6:30 in the morning working because we flew out our head UI designer and our head programmer, and we are about to take over the world with a new software product.
Last week was a lot of development week, working on stuff, creating things, and it was really cool. Then this weekend, I started thinking, “You know what? As great as developing new stuff is, I've got to be focusing on selling stuff.” Obviously as a business owner, my number one job is sales. I got to get back to selling.
I was thinking a lot this weekend about Michael Masterson's book Ready, Fire, Aim. I think I've mentioned this before on our podcast. If not, everyone should go get that book just because it will get your mindset right. He talks about in the book what it takes to go from zero to a million dollars, a million to ten, ten to 50 and 50 to 100 million, and the different skill sets and mindsets you need at each level.
What's interesting is he talks about the very first, going from zero to a million, so many businesses fail because they think they need an office and computers, and I need all this stuff they need. The reality is from the very first year, the very first however long it takes to go from zero to a million bucks, the only thing you should be focusing on is sales, sales, sales. Our company does well on autopilot. Thing are happening but I look at each new venture we launch.
Every time we launch a new venture, I've got to look at that as a company that's starting at zero and just sit down and look at sales, sales, sales. What do we got to do today to sell? This morning, I woke up early and put on my sales cap to figure out how we can market and sell our products. I picked the three core things we're focusing on right now. One is our Dot Com Secrets Labs newsletter. One is Neurocell, and one is our coaching program and wrote a strategy today about what we could do to start focusing on selling.
I'm excited. We're heading to the office today. We're going to have a quick powwow with everyone. Then all we're going to do is spend most of the day focusing 100% on how do we sell this stuff, writing Facebook ads and solo ads, affiliates, and just going crazy.
It was interesting, I look at a typical business day for me. I would say I probably spend five or six hours a day focusing on building new stuff and then other time, my focus of actually promoting things, maybe 30 minutes a day, maybe. If I can get the mindset shift for me and everyone in my office where we spend two or three hours a day completely focused on how do we drive more traffic to our offers, how do we sell more stuff, how would that change our business?
Within a week, we would be focusing the same amount of time we normally right now focus on in a quarter. That's really my big focus is I'm going to try to spend two or three hours a day, me and everyone in my team that's tied to any kind of traffic generation thing, just focusing on sales, sales, sales.
It's fun, I think I talked to you guys before about this huge whiteboard like a scoreboard in our office. We have our big goal this year which is $10 million. We have daily goals, weekly, and monthly. We actually just hired, we've had accountants that have worked for us for a long time. We just hired an in-house accountant to start working in our office so every single day, when I walk in the office, she can say, “Boom, yesterday we made $15,000 or 13 or 22,” or whatever the number was.
I can see that number and we can try to figure out that day, what do we do to outsell what we did yesterday, and just focusing on beating yesterday's sales. I'm really fired up and excited for that. Those are some of the things that are going on in my mind right now. For all you guys, whatever your business is, I want you to start focusing more on that, waking up each morning, and the number one thing should not be, “What can I create today? What's my next project?” or whatever it might be.
The number one goal should be how do I drive more traffic, how should I sell more stuff today? I highly recommend creating some kind of scoreboard where every single day, you can see your sales so you know that when you wake up in the morning, I got to beat yesterday's sales. It's kind of like when you go to the gym.
I used to go to the gym all the time and just lift hard. I got strong but I got strong to a level. A couple of years ago, I had a personal trainer and he keeps track of every single lift I do, and every time I go in, he tries to increase either the reps or the weight or both, or whatever. I look at the gains that I've made over the last two to three years. I'm stronger now than I've ever been, and I keep going up. It's because we're tracking and measuring, and seeing those things.
I think it's the same with sales. I'm excited to start watching that. Today is the first day of this. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next month, two months, three months. Last week, we were looking at our sales and we were averaging I think around $16,000 a day or so which is good, but I was like, “Man, what if we could get that to $20,000 and then $25,000, and then $30,000?”
I think we were doing the math. I think $30,000 a day is about $10 million a year. For me to hit my goal for this year, we got to be averaging about $30,000 a day. That's my KPI, my key performance indicator, the number I need to be looking at every single day when I come in. What did we do yesterday? Okay, what do we have to do more of today to increase that over what we did yesterday? That's my goal.
I'm excited. I just got to the office. I hope that you guys are as fired up as me. Sit down, look at your goals, look at your daily sales and start figuring out how you can make that bigger. I don’t care if right now, your sales are six bucks a day. That's fine. Look at that and say, “How can I get to $10 a day? How can I get to $20 a day? How can I get to $50, $100, $1000 then $5000, $10,000?” and just start focusing on those numbers.
If we're not focusing on it, it's not going to grow. I promise you, it's like going to the gym everyday and just lifting. You'll feel good and the ladies will check you out but you're not going to get any stronger. When you start measuring that daily and you look at that, the number just annoys you and bothers you.
You've got to figure out how in the world to beat it. That's when you start seeing the big gains that you want. That's my challenge for you guys today. That's what I'm going to be doing today. I'm fired up. We'll talk to you guys again soon. Thank everyone.
How we’re using a free t-shirt to launch a new membership site.
Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you to a very snowy Marketing in your Car. It's been a little while since I've done Marketing in your Car. I want to tell you what's been happening. We are about to launch this new software as a service, or SAAS as they call it program, product. It's actually three products.
We've been working on it for the last year or so, actually, a little bit longer than that on some of them. We're at a point now where they're almost done but they haven't quite gotten done. We really need a good UI designer to help polish everything off. There's this guy who I think is the best UI designer I've ever seen in my life, and I bribed him and paid him a whole bunch of money to come to Boise to work.
We flew him out this week. He works typically, he wakes up at two o'clock in the afternoon and then hangs out and starts working at seven o'clock at night until six AM. That's his schedule. That's East Coast time so it's even later. Four o'clock my time, he's normally waking up. We flew him out here and he's still on that schedule. We're kind of working around him.
The last two nights in a row, I have worked until about four AM. Then I go drop him back off at the hotel, I come home, sleep for three or four hours until my kids wake up, and then I'm back at it again. I'm running at almost no sleep but for the last two or three days, we've gotten so much stuff done. It's just exciting.
For all you guys who are out there launching new companies or businesses, you probably know that there's days when you just go in there and kill yourself, when your body is ready to die but it's all worth it afterward because at least for us, our thing is almost done, and fired up and excited. Last night while they were working, Todd was programming, Dillon was designing, and I was writing sales stuff.
I came up with an idea for a new business model. Because I had eight more hours while they were working to do whatever I wanted, I started implementing this concept. What we did, we've done a lot of membership sites in the past. My problem is I always charge $97 for them. While we made a lot of money, retention was never amazing on it.
One of my close friends, Stu McLaren, I remember a couple of years ago, he told me, “Man, if you had a membership site that was $20 a month, people would stay forever. You charge so much, people don't stay.” I had an idea for a membership site, a $20 a month one that was basically like a forum where people could come online and talk about marketing stuff.
Outside of that, there wasn't a lot of stuff in there, just that. I wrote the copy for it, not really good but I was like, “Why is someone going to pay $20 a month to get that? What's the hook to get someone in?” I was looking at all these people doing t-shirt stuff. That's the hot topic right now. Everyone is selling t-shirts on T Spring.
We tried looking at different models and ideas, and saw one guy in the real estate space who is giving away free t-shirts, like a tripwire offer, giving away a free t-shirt and then upselling them into his continuity program. I was like, “What if I made a t-shirt, the coolest t-shirt in the world and the only way you get that t-shirt is if you're a member? You join and we ship you out this free t-shirt,” kind of like Insanity does.
You buy their product, and if you lose weight, they send you a t-shirt. We flipped that around. I wrote the whole copy, designed the whole letter last night and it turned out amazing where basically what we're going to do is print 1000 of these t-shirts and they're going to be limited edition. When they're gone, they’re gone. The only way to get one is to become a member of our membership site, which is $20 a month.
You pay $20, boom, we ship you out the t-shirt. When the 1000 t-shirts are gone, they're limited edition and they're gone forever. At that point, we'll design another t-shirt and do it again, and just keep doing this process until we get 3000, 4000, or 5000 members in the member's area. Every time we have a new t-shirt come out, we will offer it to the new members first so they can pre-order so we can sell 500, 1000, 2000, however many members which lowers our cost. Then we do this launch where we go and pre-print all the pre-ordered ones and then 1000 other ones, and give away these t-shirts for free and advertise them on Facebook, and a bunch of other really cool things.
Like I said, it turned out amazing. The model is really cool. We're going to be replicating it I think across all of our niches. In our weight loss space, we're going to design an amazing t-shirt for the weight loss space, one for the jiu jitsu space, one for all these different markets we're going into, just an amazing t-shirt and the same model, $20 a month membership site and limited edition of that t-shirt, 1000 of them. When they're gone, they're gone, and then replicate that over and over again.
I'm excited. It's a new model. It's a new concept, new idea. No one is doing it yet. I'm sure that people knock me off. I hope they do. I hope you do but just wait. We'll be rolling this out probably in the next seven to ten days. I'll get the t-shirts printed. We already have a design and they turned out amazing. I messaged the designer last night at three in the morning and woke up this morning, he had already designed it and it looked awesome.
It's exciting, a new model, new ideas to think about. That's about it for today. I hope you're loving your business. I hope you're excited. I'm going to go pick up Todd and Dillon, get back to work. We get one more day of pounding out UI designs and back in programming before they leave. Then I get back to my regular sleep schedule because I am tired. I appreciate you guys and will talk to you all soon.