If you structure your value ladder right, you’ll never have to do a payment plan.
On this episode Russell answers a question posted on Facebook about why he doesn’t do payment plans. Here are some of the awesome things he has to say in today’s episode.
So listen here to find out why Russell doesn’t usually give an option for payment plans.
What’s up everybody? It’s Russell Brunson, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. Tonight we are going to be hanging out with some Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Alright so, why am I talking real quiet? Because it’s late at night and the wife and kids, everyone is asleep. Why am I eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch? Because I have committed that by Funnel Hacking Live I’m going to be in shape. So, Bart Miller who helped dress me at Funnel Hacking Live, he just went through this big body transformation, got ripped with a six pack and everything. I was like, “Alright Bart, we’re going to do it, just get me in shape.” So we’re going to do it, but it doesn’t start until the day after Thanksgiving, so I got a week to eat garbage. I’ve been eating really healthy for the last 6 months, right now I’m going to go as unhealthy as possible so I’m eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch at like midnight. How great is that? I’m pretty excited about that.
Alright, I was just going through Facebook right now and somebody asked a good question, they said, “How come RB (I’m assuming that’s me, hopefully), why doesn’t Russell use payment plans on anything?” It was fun because all the, everyone’s just kind of throwing out their guess of why they think I don’t use payment plans and stuff like that. I’m just going to tell you why.
A couple of things, first off, it’s not that I don’t believe in payment plans. I think a lot of times you will make more money when you offer payment plans, but there’s just things about it that drive me crazy. Especially online, one of the big ones to drive me crazy is the fact that there’s no repercussions if someone signs up for a thousand dollar course and you give three payments or whatever, and they do one of the three payments and then they don’t do anything else. There’s nothing you can do, you can’t go after them, you can’t call them out. It’s just kind of frustrating.
In the digital world, unfortunately there are a lot of people who, they’ll get one payment through, they’ll go through some of the course, then they’ll feel okay not doing it. It just kind of bugs me. That’s not really the real reason. You know the real reason why I don’t do them for the most part, and I won’t say that I won’t do them because there’ll be situations I’m sure I will in the future. One of our new higher coaching programs will be having a payment program, which I’ve never done that in the past, but we will be just to be helping people with cash flow and stuff like that.
But the main reason I don’t is because, one person commented and said, “Russell doesn’t do it because Russell’s rule is don’t sell to broke people.” And well, that’s mostly true. It’s not that I don’t like broke people or that I don’t want to help them. But if you study my stuff, especially Dotcom Secrets, in the book I talk about the value ladder. I’m taking people up the value ladder and I know full well that people likely come into my world and they don’t have money when they first come in. So I’m like, okay how can I provide the most value possible so they have everything they need to be successful? On the front end, on my books, my perfect webinar training, things like that that are free plus shipping or really, really low price. I don’t hold stuff back on that.
Dan Henrie’s a good example, he struggled for years, read the Dotcom Secrets book, learned how to do my webinar, did it and made a million bucks in 5 months. I’ve been giving away the perfect webinar now for 2 or 3 years, just the script and the video and power point slides. And people always ask me, “Why do you give it away for free, your best stuff?” I’m like, “Because if someone uses it and they make money, they can afford my expensive stuff.”
So for me, that’s really more of my goal. I want people to come in and I want them to use the stuff I have and it makes them more money and then they can come for the next things. If they’re jumping up four or five tiers, if they have money that’s fine, they can short cut success, but I almost feel like sometimes, it does not serve your customer to short cut their success.
When we first started doing Funnel Hacker Tv the very first time, I was just taking businesses, a few I liked, the people, the entrepreneur, but they weren’t having success yet. We would come in and just do all the work for them, launching their businesses. And what we found is people weren’t ready for that. We’d launch it and hand it back to them, and the people who get these businesses back, they hadn’t learned all the stuff they needed to have success with it. And they struggled and then despite the fact that I gave them the keys to a Ferrari, they couldn’t drive the Ferrari.
I think sometimes we do ourselves a disservice. Sometimes people just jump too far too fast, spend a bunch of money they don’t have, and then try the thing and it doesn’t really work because they don’t have the foundation stuff they need to get there. Business is all about for us, increasing our capacity. When you first start a business you have a big capacity to do a lot of stuff. I did, when I got started my capacity was, I struggled to read a book. Then I read a book and I was like, that book was awesome, and my capacity expanded a little bit and I did more and it expanded, more and it expanded.
Now 15 years later we run a huge company where we’re one of the top two or three most visited websites in the world. Making a lot of money, doing a lot of stuff, helping a lot of people, all those things. But if I would have just been handed this 15 years ago, I promise you I would have destroyed it. Not because I wanted to, but because I wasn’t ready for it. And I think a lot of times, I know I could sell more stuff if I offered these huge payment plans to let people in, but the reality is someone comes in on a payment plan they can’t afford and they’re trying to learn stuff and then they can’t afford it, and then they go buy traffic and other things they need to do and they can’t afford it, it doesn’t really serve them more, or me.
So I want people to grow with us. So that’s why we do stuff, the way low ticket stuff, mid tier, high tier things like that. That way people come in, they learn, they apply, and if they get value they should naturally ascend up, right. It’s kind of like in my stack I have a line that I say in there, it’s funny because it’s a really good closing line, and I’ve had a lot of people knock it off since I started using it, but it’s true for me.
For me it says, “I have a philosophy here at my company that if I can’t make you money then I don’t deserve yours.” And I honestly do believe that, which is why I don’t just go hard close them on these huge payment plans. We see a lot of people do product launches, they’re selling a $2,000 course, or twelve payments of $300. I’m like, the problem with $300, I remember me in those days and that was a lot of money. It almost does them a disservice. If I have twelve payments of $300, twelve months from now, I’m going to have my stuff in place and start buying ads again because I got this huge budget of $300 a month. So that’s kind of my thoughts.
So I hope that kind of helps. Again, it’s not that I won’t do payment plans, I will do them in the future. There will times and seasons I will do them. A lot of businesses I recommend them. So it’s nothing against them, I just think for me personally, that’s my goal, that’s my vision. Just try to blow people’s minds at every step of the value ladder, and if I do that correctly then they’ll be able to afford the next thing and the next thing and the next thing.
You know, I could tell you probably a couple dozen examples of this but Dan Henrie is one of my favorites. He joined the Inner circle and he posted on Facebook. He was like, “I don’t know why I joined Russell’s inner circle, I feel like I got, I made a bunch of money and everything, I don’t really need to be, I don’t really want to be in it. But I feel like I owed Russell 25k for all I got for the free book I bought.”
How cool is that if your customers feel that way. Man, I got so much from this I feel like I owe you. I need to invest in higher ticket things because I got so much down here. That’s what I’m trying to create.
So there you go, I hope that helps you guys. I hope it helps you, again, obviously we’re talking about this for my business which is teaching business owners how to grow. So it’s very applicable because it’s like “Hey make money here and grow.” But it’s the same with any business. Let’s say your business is helping marriages right. You give them something free and it increases the spark in their relationship or it fixes something and they feel better, man they will want to give you more and follow you further and all that kind of stuff.
So anyway, it’s a fun game we play. I love it. I appreciate you guys, as customers, as friends, as subscribers, listeners, and I hope that you got some good ideas out of this, I’m going to get back to eating my Cinnamon Toast Crunch before it all gets cold, gets soggy. It’s a little soggy already so I’m going to go. And by Funnel Hacking Live I will be sexy. I promise you guys, I will have a six pack. And if not then I won’t say anything else about it. Alright everybody, talk to you soon. Bye.
A quick play-by-play of the last 24 hours of my crazy life.
On this episode Russell talks about the last 24 hours of his life and the events that made it feel crazy. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear in this episode:
So listen here to see why Russell’s last 24 hours have been such a stressful roller-coaster ride.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Tonight is going to be a late night reflections episode.
Alright, I don’t know if that’s really a thing, a reflection episode, but it has been, the last 24 hours of my life have been insane. I learned some really good lessons along the way. I just wanted to sit here and talk it out with you guys if you don’t mind. Hopefully you’ll get something out of it.
So some of the back story, we are in November, for those who are watching or listening to this later, it’s almost Thanksgiving; it’s about a week away. It’s been interesting, working on a lot of really neat, amazing projects and some things that I feel are part of, I don’t know, it sounds cliché but part of my mission in this life. It’s not building, it is indirectly building funnels, but it’s for who we’re building them for, what we’re doing and what we’re trying to accomplish with it. Things that are really, really good in life.
And what’s interesting, I know that everyone listening has got different beliefs, but what’s interesting is whenever you try to do something good, the adversary, call it whatever you want, fights against it. And I was starting this project with this group we believe in and start moving down this path, I was warned by a lot of people who were in this project saying, “As you start trying to move forward towards this thing, the adversary, or whatever you want to call it, is going to fight against you.” I was like, okay bring it on.
And it’s crazy because I’m starting to see, maybe not, maybe it’s just my mind, but as we’re moving towards this thing, I’m just noticing a lot of stuff happening. So the last 24 hours were crazy. So right now, I think it’s 11 at night. I just got my kids to bed. About 26 hours ago, a little longer than a day, 24 or 25 hours, whatever it was, a little over a day ago, I had just gone to bed as well. It was just a normal night, I was going to be staying up late working because my wife had just left to Disneyland yesterday, she’s out with her girly friends doing Disneyland. So I was like, I’ll have some time to work, catch up on some projects.
I was going to start on them, and by the time I got the kids down and was about to come and start working, I got a text message from Melanie saying, “Hey, this weird thing is happening.” It’s kind of cool, someone from my inner circle saw something where basically lawsuits were being filed against us. They’d seen it ahead of time. We got spies everywhere around the world. Anyway, so we looked at it and it was kind of a violation. Basically it was somebody had gotten, we found out later, it’s been 24 hours. But it was a text message that they’d gotten that they said that they didn’t want to receive from us.
So instead of just being a normal human being and being like, “Oh, I don’t want to receive this text message.” this person is filing this huge lawsuit against us. It’s crazy. So we got the name and number and all sorts of stuff and it’s crazy. Somebody signed up for Clickfunnels with a fake credit card, it wasn’t even a real credit card, logged in twice and never logged in again, their credit card failed. So our system, when your credit card fails, actually when you log into Clickfunnels, there’s a little thing saying, “Hey, if your credit card failed, would you like us to text you? If so what number?” So you put in the number.
So the credit card failed, so we texted saying, “Hey, we don’t want your websites to go down, you should login to your Clickfunnels account, add your credit card so you don’t lose your websites. It sent him two text messages, this was like 2 or 3 months ago. So this person, it’s insane, gets these text messages and files a lawsuit against us. A lawsuit, for crying out loud. For irreparable damages and on and on. It’s just nuts, nuts.
So it’s funny because I always heard about frivolous lawsuits and it’s just like, I always thought those were like, I couldn’t fathom that those were a real thing, that human beings were like that. But it’s just like, I just saw it, I’m seeing it right now. I’m like, holy crap. It’s funny because, it’s interesting, when you don’t have money you’re like, “Oh, if I just had money all my problems would go away.” I got bad news for you guys. Problems don’t go away, they just turn into different problems, more annoying problems, where literally people are shooting at you and attacking you all the time. It’s nuts.
So I get that message about that, so we’re trying to just research and figure that out. I can’t think about this, I got too much stuff to do. So I kind of put it on the back burner, sat down at the computer right there, my work computer where the Expert Secrets book was written. Sit down at the work computer, check my email, and there’s two emails. First email was from this organization we’re working with to try do a lot of good in the world and save a lot of kids lives, this thing that we’re moving forward on, do the ultimate good. Then the email that came in literally a minute before or after that one was from this other person.
I’m not going to tell the back story behind this because it’s not important. But it’s a person I dealt with three years ago. This huge email, I haven’t heard from him in over a year, huge email talking about, going on and on about how they’re going to sue me for all these crazy things. I’m just like, I can’t even, I don’t know how to handle this right now. It was just crazy.
I did my best to get a handle on it, but I gotta get this out of my mind because I gotta get some stuff done. So I was up until about 2 last night working, passed out, the kids were up this morning at like 6, so I got four hours of sleep last. Got up, got the kids ready because my wife’s gone. Luckily we have help, a nanny who comes and helps get the kids out the door and everything with school. And then, head in to the office, have a ton of stuff going on, obviously, we’re trying to coordinate so much stuff. I wish I could, just let you have a glimpse of all the stuff we’re doing at once. I don’t think people would believe it. There’s a lot happening, obviously. It happens when you’re trying to change the world.
It’s fun, we did a podcast with Nathan Latka, the top, if you’ve ever heard his podcast, it’s really, really good. I did a podcast 18 months ago with him, and we did another one to follow up with him now. We’re 5x of where we were at 18 months ago, which is insane. It was really cool recapping all the positive growth that we’re doing. It was cool, when the questions he asked at the end, he’s like, “Most business owners reinvest their profits back in their company, that’s where they get the highest return on investment. Where do you invest your money Russell?”
And I laughed, “You know, we reinvest money back in the company, but for me, I didn’t start a business to reinvest money back in the company.” He’s like, “So wait, real estate? Where are you reinvesting your money?” I’m like “I’m not reinvesting in anything. I reinvest it in my kids, my family. Right now we have an acre and a half, two acre lot next to our house that was just full of weeds, so this summer we knocked down all the weeds and put in a full Astroturf baseball/soccer field. We put in 9 underground trampolines, a volleyball court, a baseball field, a full basketball court and a track that wraps the whole thing. I’m investing my money back in my kids. I want to spend weekends and night with my kids playing games. That’s why I got in the business. The cash flow is nice, but that’s what I’m reinvesting my profits back into, you know.”
It was kind of just a fun answer because I’m sure most people on a business podcast don’t think that way, they think about whatever business, real business people think about. Anyway, so that was kind of fun and stuff.
But I had to deal with the issues. So we had to deal with this dude who got two text messages after he told us to text him and he didn’t update his credit card. And I started realizing, after we started learning all about the do not call list, and the do not text list, it’s just crazy. Basically we brought on all these lawyers and companies and all this crap in the last, all day today, which is crazy. But we found out, it’s interesting, these texts, there’s 150,000 known people, if they get a text message from you they will file lawsuits. That’s all they do.
So as soon as they get a text once, they get blocked across all these things. So it’s like we’re tapping on API’s, so we pull out all these known complainers and stuff, but it’s insane. So all these guys do is go out there and sign up for things and wait for you to text them. That’s it. This is a real thing. You hear about this, I always thought there’s no way that people are that evil. But they are, this is a real thing. It’s happening, it’s happening to me right now. So now we gotta fight this thing, it’s just nuts. Time, energy and money wasted for some moron who’s going out and looking for lawsuits. That’s it, it’s crazy.
So there was number one, then I deal with number two. Some of our lawyers came in and the lawyer basically, this deal from three years ago and I haven’t heard from him in over a year, the lawyer is just shocked. I can’t believe we’re hearing from him, it’s just insane. And sat down with me and went through everything again. “You guys are in the right. 100% in the right. My authority as your lawyer is we need to go and just destroy this person and put him out of his misery.” He said it nicer than that, but not much.
But I was just like, we’re in the meeting and everything and I think it was Dave or Brent, or someone on my team asked me, “What does your gut tell you, Russell?” and I was like, “My gut tells me I just need to do whatever it takes to make this go away.” I listen to my gut a lot, because I don’t think it’s my gut, it’s other stuff.
Anyway, I told my lawyer that, and it’s funny because I had this really rare chance to learn something today, something I teach my kids all the time. My kids, we get in these arguments with each other, especially my 7 year old and my 12 year old. They’ll get in these arguments about things and the older one is so mad because they’re trying to prove that they’re right to the younger one. I’m like, “It doesn’t matter, just stop. It doesn’t matter that you’re right or wrong, just stop fighting, please. Just stop fighting.” “But he’s wrong.” “It doesn’t matter, it does not matter who’s right and who’s wrong. It does not matter at all.”
And I try to teach that to my kids over and over again, just walk away, let it go. It does not matter. It’s funny because after we got done with the lawyer meeting and stuff and I wrote this person back and just said, “Hey, here’s the lawyer, you can figure all this stuff out.” And that person wrote back and said, “Please get on a call.” And I was like, I don’t want to get on this call. I just don’t. I don’t want to get this call.
So for me, I kneeled down and I prayed and I was just like, “What should I do.” Asking for help because I knew that I wanted to be like my 12 year old and be like, “No, you’re freaking wrong.” And yell at this person, but I knew that wouldn’t solve anything and just hurt everything. So I prayed for humility and prayed to know what to do and how to do it. I got all this frustration and anger so I picked up the phone and called this person.
I listened to the person, who basically starts yelling at me, telling me all these things that he thinks I’ve done wrong. At every point I just want to fight back and be like, “This is not true, that is not true. I’ve proved that’s not true.” And everything. But I sat there and bit my tongue. I was just praying in my head, “Let me know what to do, how to handle this and what to do.” Just sitting there and sitting there, taking it and taking it and finally just, “Dude, what do you want? What’s the real story, just tell me.” And we talked about it and I think we figured out a way to solve it. And it sucks because like my little kids…legally, people get justice with lawyers, justice needs to be served, you were in the right here, this is not your fault.
And I’m looking at this from another angle, saying, there’s two laws, there’s justice and there’s mercy, these two things. Legally, we always want justice for everything. There’s the other side of mercy. I don’t know about you, but there’s things in my life where I make mistakes. I made a lot of mistakes. Made way too many mistakes to brag about, especially on a public form like this.
But there’s times in my life when I needed mercy from people and from things. There’s times when mercy came through to me and it saved me and helped me. In my physical life and spiritual life, in different things like that, and I’m just grateful for the times when I was extended mercy. And I think for me at the time, you don’t have to have perfect justice, extend mercy here and it’ll make everything better. I don’t know if that’s always the case, but definitely was the case for me today.
So that was the first two issues. And then, I’m all excited for my kids wrestling match tonight. This all happened by 3 today, then I had to leave to go the wrestling match. So I go to the wrestling match, we get there and I’m working with my kids because last week they kind of got beat up a little bit at the tournaments. So all weekend long I worked with them in the wrestling room at our house and got them better and better and better.
I got there and my first, Dallin my oldest of my twins was first match, he wrestled the perfect match, it was so awesome. All the stuff we worked on this weekend he was doing, it was really neat, really special to see that. He won and it was just so exciting.
And then Bowen had the next match, but it wasn’t until the end of the night. So he’s warming up and goofing off and having fun and Dallin is doing the same thing and then Brandii, who is our nanny, she brought all of our kids, and luckily this turned out to be a huge blessing. She brought the kids to the wrestling match, which was kind of stressful because I’m with Norah, holding little baby Norah and the other ones are running around and all sorts of crazy stuff.
And then Bowen is getting closer to warming up, so I gave all the kids back to Brandii and went to the other side of the mat and start getting Bowen all warmed up and then Dallin is there goofing around because he’s between his match, having fun and he goes over to the bleachers, the side of the bleachers and he saw someone jumping up doing box jumps on this ledge. There’s like a metal strip across this ledge, and he sees them doing box jumps and he’s like, “I’m going to do it.” Because he’s kind of bored, sitting around. So he goes to jump and do a box jump and misses it, hits right below his knee. I’ll actually show you guys this.
Those of you who are watching, this is like, parental discretion advised, this is kind of freaky. But if you’re listening you can’t see them, but he hits his leg and is like, “Ooh, that hurt but I’m fine.” But I look at him and I’m like, “Dude, you are not fine.” It was the deepest cut I have ever seen in my life. You can see this here, that’s his knee. It looks like you can see the bone. If you’re listening you can’t see this. I want to throw up just looking, it’s like the deepest cut ever. I looked down and I was just like, “Oh my gosh. You can see all the way to the bone with this cut. It is huge.”
And then there’s blood pouring everywhere, all over the mats, all over the thing. I’m like, “I don’t know what to do.” I’m just going to keep showing pictures while I’m doing this. I’m like, I don’t know what to do or even how to handle this. This is….So I’m kind of pulling him out of the wrestling room, and trying to warm up Bowen on the side of the mat, now I’m pulling Dallin out and there’s blood just oozing everywhere. My wife’s not there, I don’t know what to do, there’s no one, I don’t know what to do.
I come out in the hallway, and luckily the wrestling coach, he’s got some kind of medical background, I’m not sure exactly, he was there. I’m like, “I need help.” He’s like, “Oh my gosh. Yes, put him down.” So he puts him down, here’s some more pictures. Luckily, because I was kind of in shock I didn’t know what to do, so he goes and gets someone to go grab some gauze and they wrap the knee up. I was like, “We gotta take him to the ER, but I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to miss Bowen’s match. Bowen’s been training.” Ugh, look how deep that is.
So anyway, the coach is there and helps me wrap this thing up and then I ran over to Brandii, our nanny, who is over there….Here’s my little buddy, laying in the hospital bed, smiling during the surgery. There’s him all stitched up at the end there. Anyway, he’s laying there, and I grab Brandii, who is our nanny and said, “Dallin just cut his leg open and he’s gotta go to the ER.” So she grabs all the kids and comes back and I’m like, “I don’t know what to do.” Bowen’s trying to warm up and he’s all frazzled because of that.
So me and the coach pick up Dallin and run him out to the car, which is like at least half a mile. We get in the car and Brandii loads up all of our kids plus her kids and heads back to the ER. I run back in and I’m trying to…oh, I don’t have our medical cards on me, of course, because that’s how I roll. So I’m trying to find medical stuff to send with him and Bowen’s warming up for his match and he’s all frazzled because he saw his brother bleeding to death, he’s sure his brother’s going to die, his twin brother’s about to die.
So then I’m trying to keep him focused, get him warmed up, and he goes out there and wrestles, and poor little dude. He’s trying so hard, and he’s so much better, but he got thrown in the first 10 seconds and pinned. And he comes off just crying his eyes out and I think he’s more upset about his brother, but just all the emotions of that, they’re just little dudes right now.
But oh, it was emotional. I was trying to find Dallin’s backpack is in some bleachers, and then Bowen, getting all out the door and then racing over to my car and speeding off to get to the hospital. But I remember when we were leaving all the kids were like, “We’re starving, we’re starving.” At the wrestling match. I’m like, my kids haven’t eaten yet. It’s like 6:00, 6:30 at night. I’m racing to the hospital and I run off to a fast food restaurant, this is a crazy story, I’m sorry. I got no one to talk to, my wife’s gone tonight, so hopefully you guys don’t mind.
So I race to the fast food restaurant and I order food, I’m going through the drive thru and I’m like, “I need ten hamburgers, ten drinks and a kids meal because I got a little baby daughter.” So they pull me through and the lady’s like, “Hey, the manager wants to see if you want ten custard ice cream things.” I’m like, “You know what, yes. That’d be awesome.” So we had this car full of hamburgers, ice cream and water for me and Bowen. We’re racing back to the ER, we get there and we find Brandii with all the kids and I give her the keys and I’m like, “go feed the kids in the car.” And then I run in and Dallin’s in there and he’s about to start surgery to get his knee all cleaned up. Poor little dude.
The cut was so big and they had to get a needle to numb, they probably shot him, I would say conservatively probably about 30 different shots, he’s just screaming, he was so tough. They stitched him all up and it was just forever. Brandii took the kids home, they went home and did homework, and got them all to bed, they did homework until almost 11 and went to bed. That’s been the last 24 hours of my life.
So it’s been crazy. I just wanted to tell you guys that, it was a fun story. Just some of the things, some of the lessons of today I learned. Number one, whenever you are moving towards things that are good, the adversary or whatever you want to call it, is going to fight against you. That’s okay, it’s normal, it’s going to happen. I know a lot of listeners are people who believe in God, who think about God and if you’re not, I just recommend remembering there’s a reason why these things happen. I believe it’s to get us to remember God. So first off, remember God.
Number two, there are evil people in this world, frivolous people who are just out there to steal money. And they’re there, and the bigger you get, the bigger of a target you’ll become. So just be aware of people and protect yourself in any ways you can. We’re trying to put up a whole new line of defenses for us, so know that.
Number three, know that sometimes, if you want to have mercy, if you want people to have mercy on you sometimes in life, don’t always fight for justice in every situation. Be okay letting somebody else, just be okay giving somebody else mercy sometimes. Sometimes that’s the right thing to do. Even if it’s not, even if it doesn’t give you justice. It may hurt, it may suck, but if you ever want to receive mercy in your life, it’s worth it to give to other people. It’s important.
The last one, I don’t know what the moral of the story of the last one is, other than it was just a lot of stuff. That’s about it. Anyway, I hope that helps you guys, I hope you learned something, I hope you got something. If not, don’t worry about it. If you did, though, please share this video or this podcast with somebody you love and care about. I appreciate you listening, it’s a huge honor to have you guys listening to this stuff that we share and I hope that it helps. That’s all I got for tonight. Thanks you guys, appreciate you all, have an amazing night, we’ll see you guys all again tomorrow. Bye.
A podcast from Russell and Todd in a private plane.
On this special private plane episode Russell and Clickfunnels co-founder, Todd Dickerson, rant about troubles they’ve had with different platforms, most recently iTunes. Here are some of the interesting things you will hear on this episode:
So listen here to find out why it’s important to have a back up plan when it comes to social media platforms, as well as merchant accounts.
Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today we are taking, this whole thing is happening on a private plane with Todd Dickerson.
Todd: Well, it’s a little bumpy right now.
Russell: Alright, so right now we’re on a private plane and I want to show you guys the moon out here. Now we’re in the middle of a cloud. I don’t know if you can see this.
Todd: Busting through the clouds.
Russell: So those who are watching this, if you’re listening you can’t see it, but we’re on a private plane, we’re at, I don’t know how many feet in the air. We just left Atlanta, Georgia. Not Atlanta, we left Cherokee county, at the airport, which is kind of cool. We were supposed to be…we were really excited because this flight there was supposed to be a beautiful girl right there, and a beautiful girl right there and then Todd right there. But our beautiful ladies, aka our wives are not here. Todd’s daughter got sick the last two or three days so his wife’s like, “I can’t make it.” And then my wife’s like, “Well if she’s not going, I’m not going.” So now we’re on a romantic trip together without our wives because we already booked a plane.
Todd: So we’re going anyway, it’s going to be fun.
Russell: It’s going to be so awesome. Oh, check it out, here’s the moon. There’s the moon shot. Yeah, there’s the moon. So for those who are watching this, there’s a picture of the moon. It’s so cool. For those of you guys who are listening, you have no idea what we’re seeing, you are totally missing out. Go to marketingsecrets.com and you can watch the video version as well.
Anyway, man this plane is really bumpy. Bumpier than I thought. We’re above the clouds now, so we’re legit. Alright for those of you guys who don’t know Todd yet, you need to know him. He is the brains behind Clickfunnels. He’s the one who built it all initially and he lives in Atlanta, Georgia. We’ve been trying to get him to move to Boise now for like 6 years. But he told me no. So finally, I feel bad, he comes to Boise like every quarter.
Todd: Every few months.
Russell: This is the first time I’ve come to Atlanta to hang out with him and see his house. I had a chance to hang out with him in his home and his family is amazing. Tell them all about how cool you are.
Russell: Anyway, right now we’re actually heading down to a conference, St Petersburg airport.
Todd: Clear water beach.
Russell: An email marketing conference, a mastermind thing.
Todd: It’s top secret. We’re not allowed to say where it was.
Russell: We can’t talk about it. Well, by the time this comes out, you can’t yell at me anyway. So that’s what we’re doing. We’re putting this along so we can show you guys what’s happening. But it’s kind of fun. And check it out, oh it looks so cool.
Anyway, I don’t exactly what we’re going to talk about. There’s so many things we can talk about when we’re like, “We’re on the plane, let’s do a podcast.” I have one thing I want to rant about and while I’m ranting I’m going to let Todd rant about whatever he wants. Because I want you guys to get to know him better.
So my rant today, right now I’m recording my podcast. Some of you guys know I’ve been a podcast, Marketing In Your Car first, and…… I just popped my ears, that’s why I’m doing weird stuff….So we launched that podcast and ran it for almost 6 years, every single day in my car podcasting, podcasting. Putting in the time, the effort, the work. We built a big following, and then about a year ago we rebranded it as Marketing Secrets. And since we’ve rebranded we have 3.5 million downloads, we’ve been in the top ten business podcasts for the entire year, our video podcast is the number one, not only in the business category, our video podcast is the number one video podcast in all of iTunes. So you’d think that iTunes should like us.
Todd: Yeah, you’d think so.
Russell: But apparently, ten days ago they decided they didn’t like us. What they did is they shut down, basically, if you’re subscribed to our podcast you continue to get our stuff, but nobody new can subscribe. We’ve been appealing to them, writing to them and they’re like, “Sorry.” And we’re like, “Why are we kicked out?” they’re like, “You’re just kicked out.” Well, why? They won’t tell us why, they just said, “You’re out.” And it reminded me about something I wanted to talk to you guys about because it’s very, very important. And it’s never, never, never trust a platform. If you’re building your business on a platform, just prepare to lose it all very, very soon.
I’ve done this multiple times and now it’s happening with iTunes. I’ve lost, how many since we’ve known, how many email auto-responders?
Todd: Oh my gosh…
Russell: I’ve been kicked out of Aweber, almost a dozen times. iContact, at least 8 or 9. ActiveCampaign, Bellcheck multiple times, SendGrid multiple times and again just recently, they did it again. Facebook I’ve been kicked off at least 2 or 3 dozen times, we’ve been really good and consistent recently. Instagram kicked me off, I got back in luckily. Google kicked us off like a decade ago. We never really got back. YouTube I launched, I had one video that the headline was, “The Internet Marketing Illuminati” and they cancelled our account. It’s just crazy.
So all of us, we put all of our eggs in this basket, like Many Chat or Facebook Messenger, every time we put the eggs in, we gotta put all the eggs in this basket. The problem is if somebody doesn’t like you for whatever reason, or no reason at all, they don’t even have to tell you a reason, they can just turn you off. It is insane. You were telling me about the Amazon one today…
Todd: Oh yeah, the Amazon guy, so there was guy locally that was selling stuff online on Amazon, and he was killing it and doing great. He ordered a huge new pallet of stuff from China, had it all shipped over and got here. While it was on the way over, Amazon decided to D-List his product. They didn’t like the name of one of the products, they thought it was too close to another name of something else, D-Listed the product completely. His entire revenue stream disappeared overnight. Luckily, he had been talking to one of our other guys, support agents about funnels, so he started his funnels up, but he was completely dependent on Amazon. Lost a business, he had 5 employees, all of his employees are looking for what they’ll be doing next. He’s struggling to get things going and it’s all because he was 100% reliant on Amazon.
It doesn’t mean that it can’t be a side channel that’s awesome for sales, but you cannot have it be a primary thing. Not Amazon, not Google, not Facebook, nothing.
Russell: It’s crazy. So I just wanted to re-emphasize this to all of you guys. If you’re building your business 100% on Facebook, I got bad news for you, Zuckerberg doesn’t care about you. He doesn’t. “But Russell, I’m paying $1000 a day in Facebook ads.” He doesn’t care. He doesn’t care even a little bit. We’re spending insane amounts of money and they don’t care. They don’t care about you, about me, about any of us. All they care about is their customers, making sure the platform’s happy. And guess who their shareholders and platform doesn’t like? People like us. So guys, you just have to be aware of that.
iTunes apparently, now that I know, they don’t like people like me. I don’t know why, I just kind of, added a ton of publicity to their platform, added thousands of viewers, millions of downloads, and they just one day out of the blue, “Oh, bye.” With no rhyme or…it’s crazy to me.
Todd: The top guy won’t even tell you why.
Russell: Yeah, the escalated it to the highest guy in support, he’s like, “Yep, we cancelled your account.” I’m like, “Why?” He’s like, “This ticket has now been closed.” You won’t even tell me why? I don’t know what to do.
So a couple of things. Same thing with merchant accounts. I almost went bankrupt before. I had 14 merchant accounts at one bank and all of them got shut down the same day. So 1 is a very, very scary number in business and in marketing. So always think about having multiple things, having multiple ways you are collecting money or are able to collect money. Making sure you have customers from different platforms, make sure the way you message your customers, there’s multiple platforms.
In fact, can we talk about this right now, or is this top secret?
Todd: It’s a little top secret still.
Russell: It’s still top secret.
Todd: We can’t talk about this part of it, but what he’s leaning towards is, what we already do in Actionetics on some levels, is being able to communicate on multiple channels, multiple modalities and stuff. But there’s definitely nice stuff that’s going to be coming in the near future.
Russell: I don’t want everyone, again, if you relying 100% on email, you could be in trouble. It’s hurt me multiple times. I think, I would say conservatively about 20 times I’ve lost my email service provider. And I’m not an aggressive marketer, maybe I’m aggressive. I may be aggressive but I’m not unethical. I follow the rules of everything. So it’s just kind of crazy.
So a lot of things we’ll do, if you were at last year’s Funnel Hacking Live we talked about the big benefit of using Actionetics, you can plug in your other SMTP and if SendGrid shuts you down, you plug in the new one, but you still keep your accounts. We’re trying to be a platform that’s not shutting our members down, so you have access, so if something bad happens you can plug in to other things.
Todd: it’s the new thing with custom domains, I’m not sure….now with Actionetics you’re able to have your own custom domain for everything. So link tracking goes through a custom domain, your unsubscribes go through a custom domain. Everything goes through a custom domain so you don’t have any relationship to any other people on the platform or to us. So if you get in trouble or someone else on the network gets in trouble it doesn’t affect anyone else. Which is, that’s not the case, and the reason why Aweber won’t let you import people into their platform, it’s because if you import people and spam them, then it hurts everyone on Aweber. That’s no longer going to be the case on the whole Actionetics platform. You are super isolated, so it’s only going to affect you if you cause a problem. And if another person on the network causes a problem it’s only going to affect them.
Same thing with image hosting and everything, it’s all going to be on your own custom domains now, which is actually already live. So if you haven’t set that up, go set up a custom domain, we’re giving everyone free custom domains.
Russell: It’s awesome. We’re trying to figure out ways to make it so that, we care about you guys as customers, we want to protect your businesses, so we’re trying to make Clickfunnels easier to use. So you can add in multiple SMP, multiple ways to collect money, multiple ways to message us. You’re not 100% relying on email. There’s just a lot of cool things that are coming. I can’t tell them about…..
I always tell people stuff before we’re ready and Todd yells at me, so I’m going to be careful. But that’s where we’re going and I just want to re-emphasize for you guys. If you are relying on one platform, if Zuckerberg is the way your entire business runs, now is the time to diversify. Don’t diversify in 6 months from now, or a year from now. My guess is that windows not going to be that long.
About a year and a half ago when Facebook started shutting our accounts down, I was like, “Lose Facebook, Facebooks over.” For some reason they loosened back up. They had a tight grip on people, but they loosened back up. But you know it’s going to come back again, you saw what Google did. I have friends who are making millions and millions of dollars a month, who when Google put the chokehold out, they never recovered. They’re doing, working at McDonalds, I don’t know where. But they’re not doing their business anymore.
So if you want to be around in the long term it’s very important to understand that. I still think you should start with a platform, start with Facebook or whatever that is and go there, but be very aware, as soon as that’s working, it’s like now you need to add a second source, so as soon as one disappears….or I need two merchant accounts, in two separate banks. I need to be able to collect money just in case one dries up or goes away. Make sure multiple auto-responders, SMTP, all those things are very, very important, just don’t rely on a platform. The platform will screw you over. They do not care about you or me, they only care about themselves and their customers. They think for any reason, because of something we produce it effects the experience of the customer, gone.
Todd: Or the shareholder.
Russell: Or the shareholder.
Todd: That’s the reason why we’re not VC by the way. Same type of thing.
Russell: The reason why we love you guys, we’re not taking VC money because we want to be able to protect you guys. But it’s crazy, I have no idea. I talked about God in my last podcast, maybe that was why. I don’t know. It’s crazy.
In YouTube, we were talking about….who’s that famous dude who lost his YouTube again?
Todd: Oh, there’s PewdiePie or whatever, there was 50 million followers. I mean to be fair, there were some things that he shouldn’t have said, but instantly they shut down his business, he had dozens of employees, everyone out of work, completely shut down this entire media empire more or less, with the flip of a switch.
Russell: Cutie Pie?
Russell: PewdiePie! So if you guys know PewdiePie, he got screwed by this as well, it’s crazy. And if you look at it there’s stuff on YouTube that’s so super offensive. I don’t even know what he said, but he said something.
Todd: He said something offensive, it was probably really bad.
Russell: It was probably really bad, yeah. But nevertheless they just crushed him like a grape, and they don’t care. You’re like, “But dude. I put in 5 million dollars a year in your platform.” But “We don’t care about you.” That’s what happened with Google. I remember when Google slapped everybody, everyone’s so shocked like, “I spend a hundred grand a month on Google ads.” They’re like, “You are one of our smallest clients.”
Todd: It’s a blib. They won’t even talk to you if you’re spending that.
Russell: It’s a lot of money to us, but to them, they don’t even care. They’re just angry that you interrupted the customer experience. So it’s just something to be very, very, very aware of.
Todd: Yeah, if you’re selling on Amazon, if you’re building your business on any of these platforms, that’s fine, but you need to also be expanding out. Building your customer list, building your email list, building your different chat lists, building your different communication channels with this. Building an actual business where you’re able to keep things going if Amazon decides to shut you off tomorrow. Because it will happen, it has happened to plenty of people.
Russell: So there is your warning. Ye have been warned. Thus sayeth Clickfunnels. Be careful because they will screw you over.
Okay, one last thing for this podcast. Todd’s working on tons of new stuff, we can’t talk about it, but what are you most excited about with the new stuff in Clickfunnels coming out?
Todd: I’m most excited about this thing that I can’t tell you about yet.
Russell: Sorry! It’s so awesome though. He showed me all the screenshots today.
Todd: So yeah, there’s the potential to basically 2x probably the results that you’re getting from different leads that are coming in on the front door from a communication perspective. Double open rates, double click rates, that kind of thing on what you’re currently seeing on your primary channel of communication.
Russell: That’s like being super, low balling. Double is….
Todd: Super generic low balling but it’s way more than that.
Russell: Yeah, it really is probably.
Todd: Yeah, it really is probably way more than that. And there’s also some cool things with payment processing that we’re beta testing right now that should literally instantly double mobile conversions.
Russell: That one we can talk about?
Todd: Yeah, I mean we can talk about that.
Russell: You can be in on this one.
Todd: So ApplePay, AndroidPay and Paypal all on one push to order. So the results we’re seeing preliminary at least, on the apple based stuff is literally, you go online, you click add apple pay to your thing, you press your thumb on it, and it’s instant. Everything works with upsells, with OTO’s, down sells, one click ad sales.
Russell: So imagine on your mobile, you’re on your phone and someone comes with a free plus shipping offer and they buy, does ApplePay pop up on their phone?
Todd: They only literally have to order once. They order on your primary order form, one time. Just like you, instead of typing in an order number, we have their thumbprint. Boom, it’s ordered. And then on an upsell they can just click one button, just like you would if they had to put in a credit card number. We can charge them, do the whole process, do everything we need to do. Same thing for Android. That’s the other sexy part that just recently came out. Brand new Android, they’re calling it like Google Pay or something like that, but we’ll be also supporting that as well. So you’ll be able to have Apple and Android, which for the longest time, most of the other platforms out there, they still have, if they do support it, it’s only Apple.
Russell: So that’s crazy. For those who are selling stuff mobile-y, it’s going to make your mobile experience so insanely good. People, I don’t know about you, I never buy things on my phone because I hate trying to type my credit card with my thumb. So what I do, I always email myself the link and then sometimes I buy stuff and sometimes I don’t because at that point I forget about it, whereas this is now like, oh…and they click their little thumbprint and it dings their card and then upsell, upsell, upsell, boom, fulfillment.
I’m also going to prophecy, I don’t know if I should prophecy, it’s kind of sacreligious. I don’t want to get shot down in this plane. I’m going to forecast, is that a better word? I’m going to forecast the future of where things are going. I was telling Steven this the other day. You know how we always design websites for desktops, usually wide, using multiple columns and stuff like that, mark my word, the future of where website design is going, is in single column, narrow width pages. If you look at Dollar Shave Club’s order form, this is the best example. You go to the page and the order form is like this wide going down the middle, and the fields are all centered and very, very clear, and it works really good mobile-y.
But I think that’s going to be the future of where even desktop is all designed. That’s my forecast, I’m guessing. So you’ll start seeing, you’ll notice Clickfunnels, one of our order pages right now is a lot more simple. That, I think that’s where future things are going to be.
Todd: It needs to be sized down properly, to do that. And you can easily, in the Clickfunnels editor, you can easily do that. Just jump into mobile mode, build it first in mobile mode, click desktop and you’ll see it in both modes. That’s the great thing about it. You literally only have to design it once. You might change some font sizes or show some images on desktop that you don’t show on mobile, stuff like that, that you can customize. But in reality you can do it first on mobile very easily.
Russell: I think people read more on mobile than videos, don’t you?
Russell: When I’m looking, I never push play on a video on mobile, like a sales video, I’d rather always read. Which is why I also think like a blend of video plus text is going to be more and more important. I look at a lot of our stuff now and it’s like here’s the video of me pitching it and then below there’s the copy of me pitching it. Because a lot of video I’ll see the play button, but I’ll, typically you’re in the bathroom or something and it’s awkward. This is my phone hand….Just kidding.
Anyway, there’s some forecasts and some ideas. But that’s what we got for you guys. So I hope you guys have enjoyed the flight. We’re probably half way to our destination. All you need to remember is, first off, don’t rely on one platform for anything. Your advertizing, your messaging to your customers, your merchanting, the only one platform you should be relying on 100% is Clickfunnels because we love you guys.
Todd: We’re flexible with everything too. We allow you plug in other platforms. We allow you to plug in every other platform out there. That’s why we built a way for you to….
Russell: We’re the only ones that love you enough that you should just focus on us. But then like I said, our focus, one big thing that we’re moving forward, is building in all the back ends, so you can plug in backups for stuff, you have multiple ways to message people outside of just email, in case email gets shutdown. Multiple merchant accounts in case your merchant accounts get shut down. All those kind of things. But don’t forget on your ad side, on your podcast side, all those things. My podcast downloads have dropped because I’m no longer listed, which drives me nuts. And nobody can subscribe to my podcast now. So now I gotta do work, anyway it’s just a new annoyance happening.
And there’s always a work-around. If you get your Facebook account shut down, don’t just walk away and be like, “Apparently I broke their terms…” This is the other thing that drives me crazy. I remember, you’ve probably heard us talk about SEO days, people were like, who were anti-SEO were like, “Well, we don’t want to do this because it’s against Google’s terms of service.” And it’s like, “Their terms of service…they’re coming to your website and spidering you. You can do whatever you want on your website.” It’s this weird thing.
So same thing, people getting their Facebook account shutdown are like, “It’s over. I’m done. This is not fair.” No, you don’t understand. This is your business, this is war. If they’re coming in and shutting you down, you need to fight back and get back in and keep coming back and coming back. Don’t just get knocked down and be like, “Ugh, I’m dead.” If that had happened to us, we would have lost our business decades ago. But we’re fighters so we get back up and keep going.
So you’ll see my podcast back, very, very soon. It’s annoying because I will lose all of my pre….anyway, we’ll leave it at that. It’s all fun games. When all is said and done, it doesn’t really matter. We’re trying to change the world and these guys get in our way. The platform will get in your way, and try to keep you from that. So just ignore them and keep moving forward. They shut you down, come back, make some tweaks, changes and keep going on and keep serving your people because they’re there, it matters, it’s worth it. Anything else? Any final words?
Todd: See you on the ground.
Russell: See you guys. Bye everybody.
Interesting thoughts I had on my drive home from Salt Lake City.
On this episode Russell relates following God’s will to following the will of the market in business. Here are some of the enlightening things you will hear in today’s episode:
So listen here to find out how Russell is able to relate business marketing to God.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast.
Hey everyone, I hope you guys are all having an amazing day today. Whoa, I’m juggling my phone as I get in the car. Crazy day. We are just leaving, I was about to leave the house today and I walked out and Norah was outside on the trampolines jumping.
Some of you guys heard my crazy stories. We had a big side yard that was kind of a big empty weed field. So we decided this year to go a little crazy. So we put in a football/soccer field, a volleyball court, basketball court, baseball and a track that wraps the whole thing and then 9 underground trampolines. And they got the 9 underground trampolines up this weekend while we were gone. So we spent all night last night when we got home jumping and then this morning, I was about to leave and I could hear little giggles outside and I went outside and Norah was jumping.
It’s a little bit cold out here, but I went and jumped for the last little bit. Now I’m heading out so I’m buckling up in my car and we are ready to rock and roll. It’s funny, we were gone this week. We went and drove to Burley where my in-laws live and we dropped off our kids and from there we drove down to Salt Lake because I had a meeting that I’ll tell you guys about here in a second.
But it’s funny, on the way home we went camping and stuff like that, so I haven’t shaved in two days. So my face was all prickly, you know what I mean. I was picking up Norah yesterday and her curly hair is like Velcro on my beard. I tried for two days and I just hated it, so I just shaved it this morning. I’m like, ah, I feel so much better.
But I hate it because I’ve been watching, we’ve been studying Dollar Shave Club and Dollar Beard Club’s off-boarding process. In fact, I wrote about it in Funnel university this month. And I don’t know what it is, all the beard guys just seem cooler and part of me is like I wanna be cool like the beard guys but I just can’t. Two days and I gave up, it was horrible. So I’ll never be as cool as the beard guys. But I will give them credit, they are definitely cooler than us shaved guys. Anyway, hopefully someday I’ll become a man and be able to grow one out. That day is not today.
Anyway, so I want to share something today, and some of you might be thinking, Russell this is a marketing podcast why are you talking about God? Because he has to do with everything, it’s really important. And the lesson I learned this weekend has to do with God, but it also then relates back to you guys and your market, so I think it’s really, really important.
So I was in Utah and I had a meeting with someone who is one of the top leaders in my church, the Mormon church. And we believe in our church that there’s a prophet and his 12 apostles, similar to how when Christ was on Earth. And my meeting was with one of the twelve apostles, which was really a huge honor, and scary and exciting and all those things all wrapped into one. And I had a chance to meet with him.
So this whole week prior to leading up to it, I’ve had a lot of thoughts about just life and how things work and then obviously meeting with him and then afterwards, it was a really neat reflection in time. And there was something that came out, I mean, there was a lot of stuff I wish I could share in the context of this podcast, but it’s probably not appropriate or the right spot, so I won’t. But there was one thing that just kept ringing through my head that I wanted to share because I think it’s important and it does relate back to marketing. So there you go. Is it I alright if I relate it back to marketing, if I talk about God for a few minutes? Hopefully that’s okay.
So it’s interesting, if you look at the world, what the world tries to do is that they see, I don’t want to get political because I don’t care about politics at all, so I’m not going to get political. But I see this mostly, it’s amplified in politics, where it’s like these are the agenda items that people either believe this or believe this and they fight back and forth, who’s right and who’s wrong, and all that stuff. And it’s kind of crazy.
And it’s been interesting, in my life, and I’m not perfect in this by any stretch, this is what I aspire to be, when I look at an issue, when I look at something it shouldn’t be what do I believe. What does Russell believe on this topic? It should be, okay I believe in a God, so what does God actually believe on this topic? And then my job as a human here is not to try to convince God that, “No, no, no, you’re wrong.” Because he’s not.
So my goal is to look at what he believes on the topic and then bend my will towards that. Say, okay this is what he believes therefore this is what I believe. That’s how it should be, if you do believe in an all powerful creator who created the heavens and the earth and everything. I think we should bend our will towards him. This is what he thinks, therefore this is what I think, on any topic.
I think that’s important as we’re trying to set up our belief’s. What we’re for and what we’re against. It should be less of, this is my opinion, this is what I think is right, this is what I studied, what I read. It should be like, what does God actually think and then sit back and pray and find out what he believes and then be like cool. I will align my will with yours. I will align with that because that’s what you believe.
So I was thinking about that, again, something I probably wouldn’t normally share inside the podcast, but I started thinking about this from the business standpoint too because there’s always correlations between all things. And it’s funny because a lot of the entrepreneurs that I work with, it’s interesting what they do. They have an idea, “This is a product I want to create. It’s the greatest thing in the world. It’s going to change mankind. I want to charge this price for it, this is how I want to deliver it.” And they have all these things that they want to do because it’s their idea. It’s their baby.
And they go out there and they put it on the market and the market crushes it and it’s like, that idea sucks. Or that price point is not right. Or whatever it is, the market goes and does it’s thing. And the market in this situation is kind of like God. The market doesn’t care who you are, not that God, God does care. But the market doesn’t care who you are. The market doesn’t care how good your ideas are.
The market is what it is. If you put your thing out there and it will tell you, that idea sucked. Or that idea is amazing. Or whatever the thing in between there is. And our job as entrepreneurs, is not to try to convince the market that our idea is the best, our job is to find out what does the market actually want and then align our will with that.
And when you do that, that’s when things explode. That’s why when we test funnels, we’ll test and be like, oh the market said no. And we try again and we test and tweak the messaging and the pricing, we keep moving things around until we figure out what does the market actually want? How much do they want to spend for this? What’s the price point? What do they actually want? Do they even want this product? A lot of my ideas they didn’t want. As great of an idea as I thought they were, the market did not care about it. And the market is the only thing that actually matters.
So I always tell people, it drives me crazy people in my coaching programs, Facebook groups, and everything will come in and be like, “What’s your opinion on this?” and I’m like, “Dude, don’t take my opinion on it. I don’t even trust my opinion on my own stuff. I let the market decide. I create the thing the best I know how to do, based on what I have seen the market respond to in the past. I make the thing and then I send some traffic to it and I let the market vote. And I don’t let the market vote through quizzes or surveys or things like that. Where they’re like, ‘Oh yeah, I would buy that.’ The only thing that I care about is people that actually pull their wallets out of their pocket and swipe their credit card. That is how the market votes. They don’t vote with their mouth, they vote with their credit card.”
Yes, I do, for those of you watching, I do have a Clickfunnels sticker on my wallet because it is what fills my wallet full of the stuff that we need to buy.
Anyway, so that’s how it works. So for you guys, as entrepreneurs, it’s important for you to not get so caught up on your ideas and what you believe. It is important for you to figure out what the market actually wants. What they actually believe. They believe this is worth this amount of money, they believe that this is what they want to buy. You figure out what the market actually wants, and you do that you become rich. If you fight against that, you struggle. I’ve seen people go years, maybe decades and never have success because they are trying to jam their belief’s down the market’s throat. And the market doesn’t care about you, all the market wants is what it wants. So you gotta figure out what it wants and then you align your will with that. And that’s it.
So as I was thinking about that this weekend with God and our responsibility to not so much try to dictate what we believe and try to shove it down his throat. But to figure out what he believes and align our will him. It’s the same thing with the market. And when you understand that, that’s when business becomes a lot easier.
It comes back to Expert Secrets 101, like page 3 or whatever, find a hot market, ask them what they want, and then give it to them. It does not say, find a hot market, decide what you think would be awesome to create and then jam it down their throats. That is a hard business to run. Okay, it’s the opposite way. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and then give it to them. That’s it and the market will tell you. The market will tell you if you’re right. The market will tell you if you’re wrong. If you’re wrong, don’t be mad about it. Just change your approach, change the pricing, change the hook, change the angle, change the product, change the service. Create what it wants and then everything will take place that you need it to.
Okay, there you go, is that okay that we reel religion into this thing? Because even if you guys don’t believe in God, it doesn’t mean he’s not there. That’s what’s interesting. I have people, friends that are like, “I don’t believe in God, you shouldn’t talk about it.” I’m like, “Whether you believe in him or not, he’s still there.” That’s the interesting thing.
People are like, “I don’t believe this will sell.” Whether you believe it or not, it doesn’t really matter, it’s what the market believes. So let’s go find out what the truth is, and let’s align our belief’s with that. That’s in all aspects of life. So there you go.
That’s preacher Brunson preaching on. Hope you guys don’t mind. Anyway, regardless, I hope you got something out of that one and hopefully you guys understand that’s how the world works, how the market works. And when you understand that, and you align your will toward it, that’s how you grow a company. Find a hot market, ask what they want, and give it to them. Alright guys, I’m at the office, I gotta go. See you all soon. Bye everybody.
Russell’s rant about what’s keeping people from success.
On this episode Russell rants about the difference between daycare, college and coaching and why to be successful you need coaching. But to be a champion you have to put in the extra work because coaches can only take you so far. Here are some interesting things in this episode:
Listen here to find out why you need to move on from daycare, and college and jump into coaching and then put in even more effort to become a champion.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and this is an emergency impromptu podcast with angry Steven behind me. So I have to do this right now. The Software Secrets webinar is starting in less than an hour and I should be doing slides, but something just made me angry so I wanted to jump on. And you’re kind of angry too.
Steven: It actually kind of pisses me off. It’s a recurring thing.
Russell: Alright so, this is a coaching call for everybody, and owe, we’re going to queue the Marketing Secrets intro and then we’ll come back to what we’ve gotta do.
Alright welcome back, so now that we’re still angry, hopefully the intro got you pumped, I want to talk to you guys about the difference between coaching, college, and a daycare. This is very important for you to understand because some of you guys for some reason think that we run a daycare here and we don’t.
So right here actually, if you’re watching the video version, if you look out the window here, this is our office, Clickfunnels right there, there’s the daycare. So it’s right next store. There’s a little playground right there, you guys can see it. That’s the daycare.
Steven: And they cry and they scream and they’re whiny.
Russell: So the daycare, it’s really cool. The way it works is you show up there and then someone takes care of you the entire day. Like when you’re hungry, they give you food. When you’re thirsty they give you water. When you poop yourself, they wipe your butt. It’s really, really nice. It’s like what? $50 a month, $100? I don’t know how much it is. But that’s a daycare , that’s how daycare’s work.
So that’s one option of how you can get better at life, you can go to a daycare. Option number two, you go to school. Now, the thing about school is it costs a bunch of money. They don’t care about you at all. You show up and then you do your assignments or you don’t, they don’t really care and they give you an A, B, C, D or F. or if you’re in England I also found out they have an E. We don’t E’s in America, but apparently in England there’s E’s. But A, B, C, D, or F and then as long as you get a C, they don’t, C’s good enough and you get a degree. In fact, my motto in college was C’s get degrees. That’s how I passed school. As long as I got a C I could wrestle. So I literally had a 2.1 GPA, I had complete C’s all the way through, except for I got a B in, I think it was something….It was like semester one of year one. So it was a long time ago, I don’t even remember what it was.
But I got C’s, I got a degree and yay! I got a degree, whooo. And I leave with a piece of paper that’s completely useless. So we got daycare, we got school and then the third option now, is coaching. So how does coaching work? I’m a wrestler and every single day I show up to wrestling practice, my coach was there. My coach was really good. He knew what he was doing. And I show up and all the other wrestlers would show up and we’d sit and watch the coach and he’d teach us moves and we’re like, “Oh, cool. That’s a good move.” And guess what?
Some of the kids would watch the coach and they’d try the move and they didn’t do it right and they just sat there on their butts and did nothing. And then guess what? They sucked at wrestling. And the coach didn’t give them a B, or a C, or an A and it didn’t matter because they were going to put them out on the mat and they were going to get the crap kicked out of them in front of everybody. That was the reality. You don’t get an A, B or C, it’s like okay you’re about to go fight someone. This is your preparation, if you want to just crap it away, congratulations, you did that. And you’re going to get beat up in front of everybody.
Then there are people like me, I listen to coaches, I watch, I train, I ask them questions, I keep doing it, I train, I practice. When he would leave my dad would come over, my dad’s out there. When he would leave, then we’d go out to the house eat dinner and my friends would come to my house and we had a wrestling mat on my back porch, we’d wrestle on the back porch and guess what?
I became a state champ, I became an all American, I got a college scholarship, because I did more. My dad used to always tell me, “ A coach can take somebody to this level. And a coach has got a whole bunch of people he’s coaching. That entire wrestling room is all there and everyone’s getting there and the coach can get everybody to this level right here. The difference between someone who’s going to be a coach, and someone’s who’s going to be a champion, is after the coach gets you here, it’s that extra effort. That’s what makes you a champion.”
So what’s cool about marketing and sales, first off, we’re not a daycare. I’m not going to wipe your butt. I don’t freaking care if you succeed or not. That’s not on top of me. Number two, this is not college, I’m not going to be like “Congratulations, here’s a C you can go get a degree.” Because guess what? You’ve gotta go out there on your webinar or with your pride, and you gotta step out there in front of everybody and you’re getting the crap kicked out of you and if you’re getting a C, you’re going to get destroyed. I’m not giving out C’s. It’s not a college, or university. I actually care about your success.
So what we’re going to go is we’re going to have a coaching program, but we run the coaching program just like wrestling. We’re coaching a whole bunch of people the best that we know how. We know what works, but guess what? Everyone sitting in the room is hearing the exact same thing. And the difference between a champion and someone who is average is who’s going to take that extra effort. Who’s going to ask the coach other questions? Who’s going to follow up? Who’s going to practice? Who’s going to get better? Who’s going to do stuff on their own? Who’s going to go home at night, after they eat dinner, for the third practice of the day because they want to be a winner?
Those are the people who win and those are the people we coach. So right now you’re in a coaching program. So any of you guys who are in our coaching program, this is specifically towards one person who I’m yelling at, but this is an important lesson for everyone. First off, we’re not a daycare. If you want someone to wipe your butt, it’s like $100 across the street from Clickfunnels. Across, it’s not even the street, it’s like over the fence right there. They will wipe your butt and you’ll feel really good, because you gotta clean butt.
Number two, you can go to college. Boise State’s like, I don’t know, 4 or 5 miles down the road. They’ll give you C’s and you’ll feel really good. You can put it on your wall and be like, “I got a degree.” And you’re so awesome, but you’re going to go out in the real world and get the crap kicked out of you.
Or number three, you can become a champion. Show up every single day, work your butt off, work hard, and then go out and do the extra effort you need to do to be successful. The last two nights in a row, guess how late I was here at the freaking office working on my slides? 2:00 both nights in a row. “But Russell, you’re super successful, why are you still working hard?” Because champions go the extra effort.
I could have gone home. I could’ve not done this. I could’ve just slept. And we got people who are like, “Oh Russell, I worked really hard. I was up til like 8 last night.” Dude, you guys aren’t even there yet. You shouldn’t be going to bed until at least 2 or 3 or 4 in the morning til you freaking get this thing figured out. If you want to be a champion, the coaches can get you to this level. My coaching, Steven’s coaching, what we are doing, we will get you to this level but that’s the level everyone’s at. And guess what? If you’re at that level that everyone’s at you’re not going to be successful.
Champions go the extra effort. Champions do a practice afterwards. Champions go home and do another practice. Champions are thinking about it, dreaming about it, working on it, trying to perfect the art so they can become a champion. If you want to be successful in business you’ve got to do that because this is not something where we’re going to give you a C and now you’re going to make money. It doesn’t work that way. You’re going to go out there into the real world, into the marketplace, the marketplace is going to kick the crap out of you if you haven’t been prepared.
If you show up and you’re like, “Hey marketplace, I did my first webinar and nobody showed up.” It’s because your stuff’s boring because you just did the baseline and you quit. “I did the webinar, 5 people showed up and nobody bought.” First off, it’s because you did the baseline. If you want to be a champion you have to put in the extra effort from here to here. That is the extra effort you have to be to be a champ.
So to recap today. Number one if you want your butt wiped, go sign up for the daycare, it’s really cheap. And they’ll wipe your butt and it’ll feel so good. Number two, if you want to feel good about yourself, feel happy, and like kumbaya and all that crap, go to school, they’ll give you a degree. C’s get degrees, but they will not make you any money. And number three, if you want to be coached, be coachable. Come to the coaching program, listen to what they say and then do it. Don’t complain, “I can’t figure out….” Dude, there’s a thing called Google. There’s an answer to everything, you have to go that extra effort. You have to freaking do it. And you have to do it and you have to do it and you have to do it and you’re going to get beat up a lot during this practice period of time, but guess what?
If you do that and get beat up, that’s how when you step out on the real mat against really good people, that’s how you win and we’re creating winners here and that’s what we want.
So if you’re wondering, man this stuff doesn’t work for me….actually for those who are watching the video, I’m going to show you this stuff works really good. I’m going to show you, come down the hall. This is how well it works. For those champions, those who take the extra effort there, from here to here, we have them immortalized on our wall. There’s a lot of them. All of these guys here, the Two Comma Club award. All these people, these are the champions. They didn’t just go through the coaching program and stop, “Steven wasn’t as clear on how to do…”
They freaking Googled it and they asked other questions. They asked the community, and they worked hard, and they tried, and they tested, and they figured things out, and they were rewarded with a gold platinum record here, with two commas. There’s tons of them, boom.
I was showing Instagram last night, if you guys haven’t seen this yet. This month alone, the first guy came in….we filled this wall completely up, and right now if you look at this there’s 15 new one’s that came in.
Steven: It’s like 4 or 5 a week.
Russell: 15 that came in this month so far, but check this out. I came in last night and look at this, we have a whole other stack. Another 11 more. 11 +15 is 26. So we had 26 people join the Two Comma Club in the last 30 days. So what does that mean for you guys. One millionaire a day’s being made, so if you aren’t hitting it, you’re just stopping right here. You’re not doing that last little bit from there to there that is important to do. So there you go.
Steven: You gotta understand that Russell and I don’t hold the key to your success. That’s not at all how this works. It’s funny to watch different people who come in and do different coaching and stuff. It’s always easy to see, that extra little bit, that’s what keeps going. If you’re looking for external things to motivate you, it’s the wrong question already. No one needs to motivate you to do your thing. No one cares about your thing as much as you do. So you gotta be the one who’s all fiery and out there doing the thing, being a pioneer to some extent for your own success with it. Because honestly, you’re the only one who’s going to care enough to do it.
So Russell shows the framework, we’ll show how to do it, we’ll help you do things along the way as you get stuck, or whatever it is, but it’s totally up to you. You’re success, everything is gonna be riding on your back.
Russell: 100% If you don’t really want success, you just want someone to wipe your butt, go to daycare. If you don’t want success, you just want to feel good and get a degree on the wall, go to freaking college. If you want to make money, change your life, be successful, get a coach. If it’s not me, get someone else. Get a coach, freaking do everything they say, and then stop and do more. That’s it. Champions…..My dad used to tell me this all the time, “Coach only takes you to this level. Champions are made right there.”
Alright, it ran over. I gotta get back to slides. Alright you guys, appreciate you all. Thanks so much. I know I’m preaching to the choir for a lot of you guys, but for the other ones, if that stung a little bit, I’m talking to you. So thanks you guys, talk to you soon. Bye.
How we’re creating systems so that everyone can focus on their unique abilities.
On this episode Russell talks about being worth $100,000 a day in his business, but not being worth anything as an assistant wrestling coaching. He goes on to say why it’s important to focus on unique abilities. Here are some of the amazing things in today’s episode:
So listen here to find out why Russell charges $100,000 a day for business consulting, but is an assistant wrestling coach for free.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys have an amazing day today because I’ve got something cool to share with you. Alright everybody, I’m heading back into the office. It’s been a couple, the last two weeks have been a lot.
Some of you guys, if you’ve been watching, last week I re-wrote the webinar from the ground up and it did really well. Over a million dollars in sales in the first week, which is cool. But the coolest thing, now that asset is done and created it will be placed in different places, including the home page of Clickfunnels. And it should, next year generate a lot. Anywhere from 10 – 20 million bucks.
So it’s like, you do the work once and it pays you forever. And now I’m writing a webinar this week for our new program called Software Secrets, which is a brand new thing. It’s always, the last webinar I wrote from scratch, but the offer was similar to what I’ve done in the past. So this one, this is a brand new offer, brand new everything.
And my kids started wrestling, and I don’t know if I told you guys this already, but the first day of wrestling practice happened and I didn’t know about it. I don’t know, we just got the dates messed up. So my kids went and that night I came home and I was all excited to see them, “How was wrestling?” and they’re all in tears, “We hate wrestling. We never want to go back.” And I was like, “What? No.” So I had to call the coach and a few minutes later I called to be an assistant wrestling coach. So now everyday at 3:00, I love it, I get to go to wrestling practice with my kids.
The only problem is that this week was planned to be the Software Secrets launch week, so I was going to have a whole week to build out the webinar. The problem is that now from 3 til 6 every night I’m at wrestling. So it cuts out, plus like drive times and everything else, it cuts out about 4 ½-5 hours every day. So I really needed to get this webinar, so I’ve been late nights. I was up at the office until 2 last night. I’m going to probably be there til 2 or 3 tonight and then do the webinar tomorrow morning live.
But I think conservatively, it’s an amazing offer. It’s really insane. I would be shocked if we don’t do a million dollars during the launch week, or this week, the webinar week, you know. And then that will go on and next year it could do, who knows, anywhere from 5-10 million bucks. So you do the work once and it pays you for the next 5 years, which is cool. That’s what I love about webinars. All that effort you put into it. So it’s worth putting in the effort.
It’s funny, as I’ve been doing this and thinking about it, I had an old friend from about 15 years ago call me and to start off, just kind of catching up and then, and I respect him for this, but as a good sales person does, he wanted to sell me something, and he’s like, “yeah, I could fly out to Boise and spend a day or two with you guys and show you all the stuff that we have.” And all this stuff right, and I was just like, how do you tell your friends this.
Awkwardly I’m sitting there and I’m like, “Hey man,” I was so uncomfortable, because how do you tell your friend, someone who’s known you when you were just a punk kid? “I don’t know how to tell you this nicely, but just so you know, right now I bill out, if you were to come in for a day of consulting I bill out an 8 hour day at $100,000. So for you to come out for 2 or 3 days, the opportunity cost for me, its 2 or 3 hundred thousand dollars. So it’s really hard for me to just block out that time. I feel like such a jerk telling you that. But if you want to come out and we hang out as friends or something, I would love to see you again as friends, that’s super cool. To take 2 or 3 business days, the opportunity cost is not little.”
He was like, “What? Are you serious?” I’m like, “yeah.” It’s kind of awkward right. But that’s what we charge. You know, I saw someone the other day posting in our Facebook group like, “How come the guru’s don’t just charge $150 an hour so they can help everyone?” and it’s like, gall I wish I could. I wish there were more hours in the day. That’d be awesome. But I was like, literally I’m spending 3 days to create this webinar that will make me a million dollars in the first week. And anywhere from 5 to 10 million dollars extra, maybe more. Who knows?
So I’m spending 3 days, 3 days of focus time. And in my pocket goes 8 plus figures. $100,000 a day is actually super cheap discounted rate. You know what I mean? So I was trying to explain that, I was like, I don’t know how to say it nicely. I was like, even if you did want to pay me $100,000 a day, the first opening is probably 5 or 6 months away. My calendar is insanely booked. Anyway, so that’s kind of, that was this awkward moment. “I’m so sorry man, I just, I don’t want you to think I’m a jerk or anything, but that’s why I can’t just have you come out for 2 or 3 days to sell me something. I just can’t, I wish I could.”
So that was, there’s step one. And then so now I’m at wrestling practice with my kids and I’m sitting there and I’m spending 3 or 4 hours a day, every day, at wrestling practice, which again, I love. It’s so cool. I remember when I was this age, going to practice and my dad coming and watching and working out with me. It’s just cool. It’s been a really unique time with the twins, just such a cool thing to be able to spend time with them. Like I said, they haven’t liked wrestling, so I’m in there trying to make sure they’re liking it. I’m in there wrestling most of the time I’m drilling with them, I’m helping them and just making sure they have a good experience just so that they keep doing it. And for the next two or three years in the beginning programs, that they like it.
If they like, I just don’t want them to get hurt, or beat up, so I’m just there to make sure that they like it and teach them some moves so they start beating kids. Because if you start beating kids, then it gets fun. So I’m just like, trying to get them through this initial pain of the beginning. And I’m sitting there, I’m an assistant coach, I’m not getting paid anything obviously. And I was just like, it’s so interesting, in this area of my life, like in business, my time is worth $100,000 a day. But in wrestling my time is not worth anything. I’m not getting paid for the 3 to 4 hours a day that I’m spending, which is, I don’t want to get paid for it.
But I had this realization, over here I’m insanely valuable monetarily. Over here, I’m not. Best case scenario, if I was, even the best wrestling coaches in the world maybe, maybe clear 6 figures, probably not. Most of them probably $50-60 grand max. And these are like the best, these are the dudes like the Michael Jordan’s of the world, of the wrestling world. So it’s like, let’s just say I was at that level and I was getting paid that, I’d still be making $20 an hour, $30 an hour maybe. So for three hours it’s worth $60, $80, maybe $100 for my time. Whereas that time spent over here is worth $20 grand an hour. You’re looking at $20, 40, 60 grand for that same time, just where am I focusing at.
And as I was thinking through it I was like, that’s so fascinating how valuable I am here and not so much here. So I started thinking about us as entrepreneurs where how often do we spend our time, we have a unique ability that’s worth $100 grand a day right. To our company and to us and the people we’re serving right. But then, we go and start doing these $8 an hour jobs because it’s gotta be done, so I should be the one doing it. But you’re not worth that much there. It’s so expensive to have you spending time on $8, 10, 20 an hour jobs if you’re making $20,000 an hour doing your unique ability.
It’s been interesting, I’ve been working with Jeff Woods, from The One Thing, on building things out. One of the big things I’m focusing on, thinking through is we’re trying to re-systemize our business because it’s kind of to the point where we need to re-set and re-do all those things. And as I’m thinking through it I’m just like, I want to create the systems and my goal in these systems is to create the system so that it forces me, and forces everybody on my team to only do their unique ability. Because each of us has a unique ability where we’re worth $100,000 a day, and then we have things we’re good at where we’re worth $20 an hour.
It’s like, if I can get everyone focusing on their unique abilities where they’re worth $100 grand a day versus their non unique abilities where they’re worth $100 a day, man how much faster can we grow and can we scale and all those type of things? So that’s been my thought process.
So right now, we’re in the re-systemization of our company from now until the end of the year. After the Software Secrets launch I’m going to take, you guys will see me take a little bit of my foot off the gas, so I can recoup, restructure, get systems in place and then in January we’re going to go crazy, so it’s going to be fun.
But that’s why, I’m trying to figure out how to get everyone focusing on their unique ability and not focusing on the $100 a day jobs that they can do, and they are doing, but how do we get it so we’re all focusing on unique abilities? So for you guys who are thinking about it, what’s your unique ability? Think through that and then figure out, okay now that I know that, what are the people on my teams unique abilities and how do I create a structure where everyone is focusing 100% of their time on unique abilities? When you do that, you’ll start growing.
Dan Sullivan, at strategiccoach.com, if you guys go there he, I just bought every book on his website last week. It showed up in a huge box. Because I’m about to immerse in some Dan Sullivan, so I don’t just buy one book, I buy all of them because I love immersion. But in one of his books, it’s about unique ability, it has like a work book and everything. I haven’t read it yet, but I know it’s awesome, so check it out.
You guys, there is Garrett, and there is Scott. Those are our partner’s for Software Secrets, Lindsay, they’ve been up here for the last 2 days camping overnight with me getting everything ready for the launch tomorrow. So if you guys are watching the video you just saw Garrett, Scott and Lindsay. If not, you just saw me point in the air and didn’t see anything, if you’re just listening. So anyway, I’m going to jump in and we’re going to get this thing launched. I got 5 ½ hours before wrestling practice. After wrestling practice I’m going to come back and probably spend another 51/2 hours, so about 10 hours to get this webinar done before my body will shut down. Wish me luck.
And then tomorrow will be a million dollar day and then we’ll have an asset that’ll pay us for the rest of our lives. So this is my unique ability. So that’s what I spend my time doing. Spending my time managing, $100 a day job. Spending my time writing webinars, $100 grand a day job. So I’m focusing on my unique ability today, which will be good. So that’s all I got. Alright everybody, appreciate you all, talk to you guys soon. Bye.
I use this in every webinar, every Facebook live, every sales letter, and pretty much every time I sell anything, and I’m going to give it to you for free!
On this episode Russell talks about a closing technique he learned from the first copywriter he ever paid, that he has been using ever since. Here are some of the awesome things you will hear in today’s episode:
So listen here to find out what technique Russell has been using for years to close.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. So excited to be here with you guys today. And today you guys are learn one of my top closing techniques that I use in webinars, and sales letters, and sales videos, and Facebook lives and over and over and over again. And I might even use it in other aspects of my life as well.
Alright everybody, I hope you guys are excited today. I’m heading over to my son Aiden’s school, he’s 7 years old and today I am the mystery reader. So what happens is in about 15 minutes from now I’m supposed to sneak up to his door and I knock on the door and they open the door and I get to come in and read a book to them. And he doesn’t know it’s happening, but they’ve been giving clues out about who I was all week long. So every Friday they do this and so it’s kind of fun, so today’s my day and I’m so excited. I got my book, got some Dr. Seuss with me.
He was cute, he was like, “Dad, if you are the mystery reader today, you should bring treats.” I’m like, “Oh, what kind of treats do you want?” and he’s like, “It’d be cool to make those oranges.” Those little oranges, whatever those little mini ones are called, and they’re peeled and you put a little celery thing on top of it, so it’s like a little pumpkin. So my wife spent all day today peeling little mini oranges and putting those things in. Oh man, he’s so cute we have to do what he asks. Just kidding, kind of.
Anyway, so I’m heading there right now and I had a few minutes I wanted to jump on and just share with you guys because as you may or may not know, I re-wrote a new podcast recently. I did it first live last week after less than a day of writing and there were tons of mistakes and errors, yet it still was our highest grossing webinar of all time. So it worked good. I spent the last week re-writing it and tweaking it, I spent probably another twelve hours or so re-working on slides and getting them just so. And then did a webinar yesterday and did awesome again, so it was fun.
And in that webinar, as I do in most webinars, I did a really cool closing technique that I love, so I want to share with you guys because I think it’s useful. So the first time I ever heard this, there was a copywriter, not was, there is a copywriter, he’s the first copywriter I ever spent money on. I gave him $8000 for a sales letter back in the day for a product I never launched, that was dumb. Yeah, I never even used it. It was called, a product I was creating called, Ezine Topia. Because everyone used to call newsletters list, like email lists back then e-zines. So I was like Ezine Topia, and it was going to be this email auto-responder that didn’t use email, it would be desk top notifications, and back then that was the buzz and I thought it was going to be the next, I thought it was going be Clickfunnels. It wasn’t, just in case you’re wondering. I failed.
But in theory it was cool and I spent a lot of money. Anyway, Ezine Topia, Johan Mock wrote the copy for it, and I used to love reading his copy. And one of the closes he used one time I saw, it was really cool. It was towards the end and it said something at the very end of the sales letter like, “Whether you buy this product or not doesn’t matter to me, I’m still going to be out eating steak and dining at fine restaurants whether you buy this or not. Because this is not about me, this is about you. This is something that will change your life. It’s not going to change my life whether or not you buy, so I don’t really care. But this will change your life.”
And I remember hearing that and I was like, oh that’s so cool. So I started incorporating that in a lot of places. In my webinars, I started using it in Facebook Live, start using it just all over the place. So if you notice when I’m selling something I do it almost every time now and it’s one of my favorite techniques when I get to the end. Because at the end, people aren’t buying are like, “Oh, it’s $2,000 or $10,000 or whatever the price is. Russell is just greedy, he wants money.” Or all these things. And so I just want to state to them, I want them to know, and it’s true, it doesn’t…..
Anyway, this is how I say it, I’m going to go into character, and I’m going to pitch it as if I’m pitching it right now. So yesterday I was selling a $2,000 course where you Clickfunnels, plus Funnel Scripts, plus Traffic Secrets, plus Funnel Hacking 101 and 201. It’s an insane offer, right. I honestly think anyone who doesn’t buy it is insane.
So basically I’d go say something like this, “So before we wrap up today I just want to say something right now because I know a lot of you guys are thinking this. But this investment, this $2,000, it is not about me. Whether you make this investment or not, it will have zero impact on the quality of my life. I’m not going to eat anything different tonight for dinner, I’m not going to change the way I dress, what I drive. It literally means zero to me, I couldn’t care less. But the difference is that this purchase, this investment, this could mean everything for you. I’m not going to notice whether you buy or not. It won’t change the quality of my life at all, but if you buy it’s going to change the quality of your life. I need you guys to understand that. This is not about me, this is about you. That’s why I created this, because I want to help and I want to serve you. So that’s what you guys need to understand, that’s how this works.”
I do it a little cooler when I’m live because I’m actually live and the stuff flows better, but conceptually that’s basically what it is. I want them to understand this investment, like if they spend $2,000 or even $25,000 doesn’t change my life at all. I don’t really care. I hope they do because extra money is always nice in the bank, but it literally won’t change, I’m doing well, I’m fine. It’s not going to change anything. I’m still going to go on my daily, the way that Johan Vox said it, I’m still going to go on my daily life. I’m going to be eating steak and sushi and hitting all my financial goals with absolute certainty, so it doesn’t matter to me if you do it or not, I could care less. But it should matter to you because it literally could change your life forever, I want you guys to understand that.
This is not about me, it’s not about if Russell’s going to make some money, or if Russell is going to whatever. This is about you. This about you making a commitment and having the blueprint, the vehicle, the things you need to actually succeed with that commitment. So this is about you, not me. So put it back on them and it helps a lot.
I use it a lot and I hope that’s a tool and a technique you guys can use as well. And it’s putting the responsibility back on their shoulders. Because when people aren’t buying they’re always trying to figure it out. Different ways to take the responsibility off and one of the ones they use is, “This is just Russell trying to get rich.” No, Russell’s already rich, he doesn’t care. The $2,000 you give him, he’s not going to see any of it. Half of it will go to an affiliate, half of it will go to support staff, half of it will go to building software, it literally does nothing for me. This is about you, not about me.
And that’s the commitment that I want them to understand and I want them to make. Because when they understand that, it’s like, “Wow, this really is about me. I gotta do this.” If I don’t buy it’s not going to make that mean old Russell salesman any different. It’s a personal decision, something that’s going to affect them.
Anyway, I hope that helps. One other thing I wanted to share with you guys that I thought was interesting today. So we did the webinar, the price is double now, the offer is like 10 times better, but the price is double. And it’s interesting because the conversion, I normally close about 15% and it was closer to 10%, so we made more net money when all was said and done, but what’s interesting, the more I think about it, if you create a product where it’s not all or nothing on the webinar. So I try to sell that but usually on the webinar you don’t buy the package I offer you, you still can buy Clickfunnels, right. So that becomes a two to three hour indoctrination of how powerful it is and why they should use it and why they need it and stuff like that. And I think that that is the key.
So I’m just throwing it out there for you guys to think through. If you’re doing webinars and they’re not buying, it’s not an all or nothing. Again, if you have a software program it’s easy because it’s like, you’re selling a higher version of software, they can use the software. Maybe it’s a membership site you’re trying to sell a year access, but they can still get the membership site, then it’s not all or nothing. Then it’s just like, even if they don’t buy it, they still now are moving closer towards you and more likely to invest in the other stuff you got. Don’t think it’s all or nothing. It’s not all buying or not buying, it’s indoctrination, it’s building relationships, building cultures and all that kind of stuff too.
Alright, well I’m at school, I’m going to bounce. Thanks everybody. I hope you had a good time and remember this closing technique will work for you and it’s awesome. So there you go. Thanks everybody. Bye.
The second super power that you need to add that’s, unfortunately, invisible to the entrepreneurial eye.
On this episode Russell talks about being able to set long term goals to help you focus today and stop chasing all the shiny things that you see along the way. Here are some interesting things you will hear in this episode:
So listen here to find out how to add another super power to your entrepreneurship.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today we’re going to be talking about being an entrepreneur and sometimes it might not be good.
Alright everybody, so as you know, I love entrepreneurs. I am an entrepreneur; I’m obsessed with entrepreneurs. My entire goal in life is to help entrepreneurs change more people’s lives because I think that we are the only types of people that can. Because we’re the only types that are crazy enough to risk everything we have, our money, our time, our energy, our talents, the pursuit of creating something amazing that will change other people’s lives.
Some people think entrepreneurs are greedy, all they care about is money and I don’t believe that’s true. I believe some are, yeah, there’s definitely some that are. But I think that a lot of people, the entrepreneurial spark starts because of money, because of the desire for that, but I think for most of us, and you’ll find that out if you’re still in the path, as soon as you start making money it starts becoming stupid. You actually don’t care about it all because it’s really not that cool. So there you go, for those of you guys, I hate to ruin the surprise for you, but when you get there, nobody actually cares about money. It’s just the thing that you desire at first until you get it, and then you’re like, huh, that was actually not nearly as cool as I thought it was going to be.
But the cool thing is in the interim as you start doing that, you start serving people and you start seeing their lives change and you’re like, “Holy crap, that was actually awesome.” So that’s kind of the thing.
Like I said, I love entrepreneurs because they’re the people who care enough to risk life and limb, everything they got, all their time, energy, money, talents with the hope they can actually help other people. So first off, I love you guys. I’m going to stay there. Second off, I also realized that while we have super powers, kind of like the X-men. It’s funny because a lot of people talk about how entrepreneurs have ADD and it’s like this bad thing. And while I agree that most entrepreneurs have ADD and things like that, those things they are not disabilities, they’re super powers.
I remember watching the movie the X-men the first time, one of the multiple one’s in that franchise. I remember watching it and there’s these people, the X-men who they think can fly and they can disappear and do all these amazing things, but the mortal humans are like, “We need to get rid of their super powers.” And they’re trying to get rid of these super powers. And it’s just like, even some of the X-men are embarrassed of their super powers and are trying to get rid of them.
And it’s just like, you don’t understand, those super powers are what makes you amazing. Don’t get rid of those things. So I feel that way, a lot of times entrepreneurs are the people like, “I’m trying to get my kids not to have such ADD or quit fidgeting.” All these things. And it’s just like, dude, that’s why they’re great. Don’t stifle those things.
So I’m saying those things in caveat because I also understand there are some things that us entrepreneurs are not good at, especially me. Some of you guys know, if you listen to the podcast, I recently hired a consultant, Jeff Woods from The One Thing. It’s funny because when I first read that book, I kind of hated it. Because I was like, “I don’t want to focus on one thing.” And now it’s interesting as I progress in my career and my life, I realize more and more how important that, the focus on the one thing actually is. In fact, it’s essential to everything. I look at my entrepreneurs and most of them that join my inner circle. They come in 50,000 ideas and my entire focus for the year number one is to get them to kill all their babies, AKA their little businesses and focus on one.
It was just hard, it was hard for me. But I couldn’t go, I couldn’t break the 2 or 3 million dollar a year mark until I killed all my babies and focused on one. And as soon as we did, we went up from 2 or 3 million dollars a year to 70 or 80 million dollars a year, within, not a very long period of time. It’s crazy. Crazy. Within a couple of years.
So that’s one thing that I’ve learned. Entrepreneurs, we have these tendencies that cause greatness, but also tendencies that cause tend to kill us. One of them is we have a thousand businesses, we have all these babies we love and things like that. But during my consulting call this week with Jeff, from the One Thing, it was interesting, he kept telling me, “You gotta stop acting so entrepreneurial.” I’m like, “But you don’t understand. That’s my super..I’m a super entrepreneur.” And he’s like, “I know but entrepreneurship got you here. But to get to the next level, you have to start running and understanding and thinking like a business owner.”
And he keeps trying to get me to figure out what’s my goal someday. What’s this goal I’m out here for? And it’s tough because I started going through this exercise and I talked about it a couple of podcasts ago. It was weird because I realized that all my someday goals, I accomplished like 18 months ago. How weird is that? And as I’m going through this exercise, I told him “I’m really frustrated. I feel like I have perfect clarity and vision with what’s going to happen over the next 6 months, a year, maybe 18 months. After that it’s like a dark cliff.” And I remember as I told him that he kind of laughed. He was like, “Let me show you something.” Because it was a voice call, so he flipped his camera on Skype and said, “Let me draw a little picture for you.”
And so for those of you guys who are listening, I’m going to try to describe the picture, and for those watching, I’m going to try painting it with my finger. I’m in my car right now. But he said, “Look at this. This is a timeline right? So it starts at the left and you have this timeline. This is when you’re born, and this is when you wrestled, and this is when you started your business, and this is when Clickfunnels launched, and this is when Clickfunnels took off, and here you are today. This is the timeline. So we judge our time based on these landmarks that happen throughout time. Most entrepreneurs, we’re visionaries so then we look at the future we see all these possibilities.”
So if you look at this graph I’m drawing from the left to the right, it’s very linear and then it hits modern time and from here it shotguns out. So going up there’s one thing and then there’s another one. There’s like ten things shooting out from this. Almost like, it looks like a broom almost. It’s like a stick with a timeline and then it breaks off into this broom with all these possiblitites, all these things fanning out that I could go. And he says, “The problem with that, we see all these shiny objects, so we chase those things. Entrepreneurs become great when they’re able to focus on one thing. But what most entrepreneurs do moving forward, they get stuck because they can see forward 6 months. In 6 months there’s like 4 or 5 things that they could hit. These 4 or 5 shiny objects. And you go like a year and there’s more. The further out you go the harder it is to see and about 18 months it gets so….that fan of things going outward from where you are today, gets so wide it gets really hard to start seeing things. That’s why entrepreneurs are really good at seeing about 6 months to a year from now and knowing the steps to take and they’re running and doing all those kind of things, but you go past that and it’s kind of a black hole.”
“What we do with The One Thing and focus on is figuring out like a laser, instead of…..” I wish I could draw a picture so you could see it better, for those who are listening. But instead of having this thing fanning out where you’re trying to hit all these shiny object what they do is start with the someday goal. Where do you want to be someday? And getting crystal clear on that. Someday I want to be, and this is like in the future as far out as you can think. Where do you want to be, what do you want life to look like?
So I’ve spent the last 3 ½, 4 weeks trying to figure that out, which has been really, really hard. So just so you know, it’s not an easy thing. So you figure out, here’s the someday goal and from there it’s like, okay now we gotta reverse engineer timeline backwards of all the milestones we have to hit to be able to get to that one thing. So we reverse engineer. So okay, 5 years, where do I need to be in 5 years from now to be one track to hit my someday goal? And then, now I crystallized my 5 year goal. Now what do I gotta be in a year from now? And then where do I gotta be this month? This week? Today?
And then we focus on just the one thing that we’re going to accomplish that going to achieve that next landmine, not landmine. Landmines explode. The next landmark, and the next one and next one and next one. Man, it’s been a fascinating exercise. The business ones are harder to explain, but I’m going to show you really quick, one for my personal life. One of my thoughts in this exercise, what will it mean for me to be successful as a father? So I’m like, okay for me to be successful as a father, and obviously my belief’s may be different from yours. But for me, I’ve got three boys. I want my 3 boys to go on missions and I want all my 5 kids to get married in the temple. For me, that would be ultimate success as a father. So I’m looking at someday goals, is that.
So essentially it’s like, okay where do you gotta be in 5 years from now for you to be able to accomplish that? In 5 years from now, my boys who are 11 ½ almost 12, they’ll be 17. They’re a year away from preparing for their mission. At that point, where do I have to be 5 years from now, if they’re going to go on a mission by the time they’re 18? I’m like, oh my gosh, they’ve got to be able to….all these things. That’s only 5 years from now, which is crazy. Then I’m like okay, from there, 1 year from now where do you gotta be to be on track for your 5 year goal? 1 year from now they’ve gotta do…I don’t have my kids doing…. All the sudden it shifted my whole perspective. Based on that, what are you going to do a month from now, a week from now, and today? What’s the one thing I need to do with my kids today to be able to hit that goal 5 years from now? I’m like, oh my gosh, I’m not doing anything related to that.
I found the same thing in business as I looked at my someday goal, my 5 year goal, my 1 year, my week, my month, and today, I looked at my to-do list, there wasn’t a single thing on my to-do list that got me moving towards my someday goal. I was like, how fascinating is that? I have all these shiny objects, as entrepreneurs do, they’re good, they’re creating revenue and doing stuff, but none of them lead me to my someday goal. It makes me start rethinking everything, it’s so fascinating.
So what I want you guys to do, because we’re all entrepreneurs, and I don’t think about this naturally, none of us do. It’s all the different type than us. But Jeff keeps telling me, “you need to stop acting entrepreneurial. Stop acting entrepreneurial. Figure these things out. Reverse engineer, then you can go get them really, really easily. But right now, you have no focus, you’re accomplishing things, you’re making revenue but you’re never going to hit your goal because you don’t have one. You don’t have a target.” And it’s been interesting for me.
For me, I’ve been really spending, honestly almost a month now, what’s my someday goal for my business? And I’m trying to make sure, all my core people on my management team, my company, my cofounders, my partners do they have the same someday goal as I do? Because if my someday goal is to do this, and theirs is this, the direction we go is completely different. We were thinking, just yesterday, or Monday we had a meeting with my partners and I was talking about this, and I wanted them all to say their someday goal and they’re all like, “well we just want the same someday goal as you.” I’m like, “No, think about it. If it’s different….my goal is this, yours is this, this goal may require us selling Clickfunnels, but this goal requires us not selling CLickfunnels and if we have different someday we’re running towards and yours requires selling Clickfunnels in 3 years and mine requires us never selling it, or selling it 30 years from now, everything we’re doing is going to be completely different. We gotta be on the same page with our someday goals or else we’re all screwed.”
So that’s what we’re going through now, having all of them kind of figure those things out. And then next it’s going to be fun, start doing some of the people inside my team, “What’s your someday goal? Where are you trying to get to?” and then reverse engineer things from there. It’s just interesting. I’m doing it with my business, in my personal life, with my health, with spirituality, all the different things in my life because it’s interesting, as soon as you know where you’re trying to get to, you start looking at the to-do lists you have right now. It’s interesting how none of your to-dos actually advance you towards your someday goal. All it’s doing is killing all these shiny objects that you have sprouting out from where you are right now.
So he says our life should be similar to the timeline prior, where you’ve got, I’ve got I was born, I started wrestling, I launched our first company, we launched Clickfunnels, Clickfunnels took off, and here we are today, and this should be like, “okay, then we did this” We should be able to see that timeline moving forward in the future as clear as we can see it going backwards. As soon as you can see it as clear going forward as you can going backwards, that’s when you stop acting entrepreneurially, which I hate saying that. But you start acting with intention. And it’s like, these are the steps to get to that.
It’s so simple when you look at it now, but I’ve never thought of it that way. I’ve never looked at it that way. And it’s funny because I’ve always felt like I’ve been a visionary, I know where I’m going, I know the steps. And it’s true, I know the steps for 6 months, maybe a year from now, but past then it’s invisible to me. And now that I’m doing this it’s like, holy cow, I’ve got this clarity of this is what I gotta do this year, in five years, all these landmarks to get to that end goal.
Anyway, it’s been a fascinating exercise for me. Like I said, it’s been a month and I’m still trying to, I keep re-tweaking my someday goal and re-tweaking my teams. But I think it’s worth doing. Again, in your personal life, your business, all these different things, that way you’re acting out of intention and you know where you’re going as opposed to just being entrepreneurial and killing and hunting the stuff. There’s nothing wrong with that, that’s what makes us great, the reality is none of you guys would have gotten to the point you are now if you weren’t acting entrepreneurial. Because most people, they plan so much and they don’t do anything. The whole ready, fire, aim thing. I believe in that.
It’s like, okay, here are twenty objects, I’m just going to run and throw a bunch of crap against the wall and see what sticks. There’s that part of the processing that we needed to do to find what’s going to be ours. But after you know that and you’re on the path and you know those things, now it’s like okay now let’s start acting intentionally and really get to what we want.
You know when I was wrestling, it was easy. I was like, “I want to be a state champ.” That was so clear in my mind. That’s all I cared about, thought about. You know, 8 drinks lefts, that’s all I did. I wanted to be a state champ. And then I hit it and then I was like, “I want to be an all American.” And then I hit it and it just became really, really easy. And I think it’s, again for me, as we started this exercise, all the goals I had in business had been accomplished 18 months ago. And for the last 18 months, I think that’s probably why this year was crazy for me, I did a lot of stuff. We launched two books, Expert Secrets and the Funnel Hacker Cookbook. We did 5 events. It’s been crazy and it’s because I don’t think I had a focus, so we were just trying to do more.
While that can be good, it’s very entrepreneurial, it can wear you out and can make your life suffer because you don’t know where you’re going so you’re filling all the void with stuff, to-do’s, tasks, ideas, projects, books, holy crap, you see my list. While these things sometimes fill you up, it doesn’t get you towards your goal necessarily. Not that they’re bad, they may have still been landmarks that I needed to do to get there, but I probably would have acted a little differently.
In fact, it’s funny I was doing this one thing, I can’t ruin the secrets, but this next project that I was going to try to get done this year, I’m like, it’s not, my ego wants it done this year, but there’s no purpose. So we set a date for next August to do it. I’m like, “What? That’s almost a year away, I’ve never had that much….” But strategically planning it out, that’s when it fit, that’s when it actually made sense. That’s what got me towards the next goal. It’s been fascinating.
I wish I could show you all the aha’s I’ve had personally with my own business, but it would take forever. Hopefully you’ve had one or two for yourself and as you do the exercise, I promise you guys, it’s fascinating.
So there you go, I hope that helps. Quit acting entrepreneurial, not 100% though, we need you. We need you to be a little crazy, that’s what creates the change and the stuff. I don’t want to take that super power away from you, okay. That’s your X-men super ability, but understand that maybe you can fly right now, but think if you had laser eyes too, now you got two super powers. So maybe it’s not stopping acting entrepreneurial, it’s getting your second super power.
Yes, yes, that’s what it’s called. Oh, this is the second super power, that’s way better. Keep being entrepreneurial, we adding a second super power. I’m titling this podcast that. There you go guys, appreciate you all. If you enjoyed this episode or it helped you at all, please share it. If you’re in iTunes I just found out that there’s a little button that you click and there’s a thing to share an episode, it gives you a link. Take that link, it direct links to this episode and you can go share it with your friends, family members, anybody else who’s an entrepreneur, anyone on your team, in fact, your team, your partner, your employees, so all you guys can focus and figure out where you’re going. Thanks you guys, appreciate you all, and we’ll talk to you soon. Bye.
Here’s a behind the scene’s glimpse of the chaos that ensued in the 24 hour webinar.
On today’s episode Russell goes over what happened when he planned and executed a new webinar in under 24 hours. He recounts what went wrong, what went well, and how it did overall. Here are some cool things to listen for in this episode:
So listen here to find out how Russell’s webinar went and hear what he’s changing when he redoes it later this week.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast.
Alright everybody, I hope you guys are doing awesome today. I am actually in the car. Don’t worry I’m safe. Don’t yell at me, “Russell you’re going to die.” I got my phone mounted so we’re safe. I’m just going to be talking, I’m not even going to look at the camera unless I stop. Then I’ll look at the camera.
But I’m excited for today, in fact, I’m heading to a doctor’s appointment. Hopefully I can find that. I’m a little late, but that’s kind of typical for me. Anyway, a lot of fun stuff happening now, and I just wanted to share some stuff because hopefully it will help some of you guys because I’m sure all of you guys are going through some stuff right now as well.
So a couple of things. Yesterday I saw, it’s funny, somebody posted in one of our groups a message about, critiquing the webinar I did last week. So some context on the webinar, this webinar that we had the idea on Tuesday. I had to write brand new slides from scratch on Tuesday. I had all day Wednesday and half a day Thursday. So I had a day and a half to do all the slides, it ended up being like a hundred and sixty slides. I made a registration page, we had to promote it. All this stuff in under a 48 hour period of time. A lot of stuff.
I can’t remember if I told you guys much about it. But when all was said and done, we launched it and we had an 81 1/2 % opt in rate after over 10,000 opt in’s, which is insane, highest converting one I’ve ever had. Number two is we are selling a similar offer, but we are kind of changing it some, to our old funnel hacks. We are changing it, increased the price, we changed the training a little bit. So it’s a similar offer, but it’s different. So I have a lot of stuff going against me. Most of the people on our list have heard me do the webinar selling them the main thing probably, I don’t know a hundred different times.
So I needed and wanted to make a new version. So this I did this whole new thing that showed a bunch of stats and analytics and it was just a really cool thing. So we did the whole thing and put it together, I literally as I ended up with over 10,000 people registered and I’m cranking out slides all the way up to the point where the webinar starts, I think it was 3 eastern, or 3 mountain time it started. I probably had 75% of my slides done at that point. So I didn’t have time to finish, I probably needed another 3 or 4 hours to actually get it done, but I ran out of time. So literally as the clock hit 3 I am copying and pasting all my slides from my old presentation to my new one because I have no time to actually finish it, which is crazy.
So then we start the webinar and we start going, and I never used….we never had a webinar that had that many people register. So we used Zoom instead of Go to Webinar, which I was nervous about because I always used Go to Webinar, it’s like good old faithful. But we decided to try Zoom because Zoom has the capacity to do I think 3 or 5 thousand people live, plus you can stream into Facebook. So you can do Facebook Live or Youtube live and things like that. So I was like, let’s try it. I know it’s scary to try something huge, especially something that you have this many people registered for, but I was like, we keep talking about trying it but we’re scared it’s not going to work at scale but the only way to find out if it works at scale is if you just do it. So we’re like, alright let’s just do it. If worst case scenario we’ll lose millions of dollars.
So we do it, and I start Zoom and at first it’s all frozen up. It’s not processing very well at all. And finally I’m able to get on and people can hear me but I can’t see questions and every time I try to just hover over the thing, there’s just a spinning circle, but people could hear me. So I was like, alright. And we’d already clicked record and it was already streaming to Facebook, so I’m like, I just gotta go.
So I started the presentation, and there’s like 30 people in my office. Not 30, I’m exaggerating, there’s probably 8 people in the office who are trying to get things setup and working and they’re talking and I’m trying to be like, “Don’t talk, I’m doing the webinar now. I’m stressing out.” And the slides aren’t done and in my head I’m all mad about that. I haven’t had a chance to even go through the slides yet, I have no idea if the transitions are working.
All the stress of the moment is just insane. So I start kind of going and man, I totally am fumbling as I start because I’m kind of overwhelmed because the slides aren’t working. I’m overwhelmed just because of the stress of it all. The first probably 15 minutes and I’m just fumbling and I can’t get my rhythm. You know how that feels to get the rhythm. It took me probably 15-20 minutes before I finally started getting the rhythm. But then even with that, because it was a new webinar, I didn’t know super well where it was going. I kind of remembered because I had just created it. But I hadn’t really done it before, so I don’t really know where I’m going, I’m trying to do it all right.
Anyway, I do my best in the confines….some reason I have this weird thing where I set these crazy confines for myself. So we had probably a day and a half total time to…no actually excuse me…..it was the night before, I started on slides at 4pm and the webinar was the next day at 3. So I had 24 hours total, but I had to sleep in the middle there. So I think we were up all that night until like 2 working on slides. So it was less than a 24 hour period of time to do all 160 slides for a new presentation I’d never done before and then give it live in front of all these people.
We ended up having about 3500 people on live and I think we had 11,000 that watched it on Facebook, but that kind of ebbs and flows. I think we had on average about 4 or 500 people on Facebook. So it was crazy.
So I do the webinar, do the presentation, do the pitch and again it’s the first time doing the pitch, there’s all sorts of confusion and questions and things coming up that I didn’t even have time to plan for because I was going to pitch it this way, but I was using slides from my old presentation. It doesn’t even make any sense. But then the powerful thing I did, the night before when I was planning to do this, I messaged like 20 different people in my inner circle that were just people who were killing it in Clickfunnels in different markets and different industries. I was like, “Hey, could you guys jump on tomorrow for like an hour and just tell your Clickfunnels story?” and they were like, “Oh sure.” And amazingly they all show up.
So I get on the webinar and I’m trying to do the interviews but my computer is frozen, the zoom on my computer is frozen up, so I can’t actually interview anyone. We have all these amazing people who took an hour out of their life to be here and I can’t even communicate with them. It took us like 10 minutes to figure out…On my computer we couldn’t do it, so we had to switch the presenter to Mark’s computer, on our team. So then we were on his computer, and then we’re…so crazy.
So then I got it work, so I’m doing the Q&A through his, but then people can’t see the screen, so I’m trying to do call to action’s throughout, and no one can see the countdown clock and it was just kind of like, it was all sorts of messed up. So many problems, so many issues.
But we’re doing the live Q&A and that part, it went for an hour, but it was really good. People’s Q&A’s were so good. I’m praying, please let the Zoom recording stuff work because we want, I need to use these recordings somwehre else. Please, I want to use them again. And luckily the recordings came out. So we do the webinar, it finally ends, it’s like 3 ½ hours from start time to this point. I haven’t slept literally more than a few hours in the last 24 hours. I’m tired, I’m worn out. It was like a thousand degrees in my office because everyone was in there.
It’s just done, I’m soaking wet from sweating, and I was like ugh. We finally end the whole thing and we couldn’t figure out how to actually end it. I’m like, “Don’t talk guys.” Because Zoom’s frozen on my computer, we can’t even end the event. And it was just crazy. Finally we figured out to take it off and end the event, and it was done and wasn’t streaming on Facebook anymore, and then everyone starts cheering and clapping. I was like, “Did we sell any? Because I have no idea.” Who knows.
So finally, we get done and we look at the sales and it was crazy. The highest grossing webinar I’ve ever done to date. I’ve done a couple of webinars in my decade and a half in this game now. So it was really, really good. And obviously there were things that I need to fix and want to fix and change and all that kind of stuff. So I sent emails basically telling everyone, “Hey, the webinar replay crashed,” which is kind of true. I do have a backup but I don’t want to show it to everyone. I want to go actually finish the slides and all that kind of stuff.
So this week, actually in two days, we’re going to redo it again live for all these people, hopefully I’ll have my act together, and you know, it will probably not convert as well because I’m all polished now. But I want it cleaned up and get all the things in the right order, the right place and do the presentation right.
So we’re doing it again Thursday. But it was the highest opt in we’ve ever had, highest grossing webinar I’ve ever had. So many amazing things. We’re super proud of ourselves and all sorts of stuff. Then yesterday, I’m about to leave the office and I login to Facebook just to check out what people are posting on the book of faces. And some dude in one of our coaching programs, he posted this long post about my webinar was fugly and how he watched it and how sick to his stomach he got and I broke my own rules and how it wasn’t truly a blue ocean, it was a proven offer. And then he had a 30 minute video critiquing everything.
And in the video he’s like, “To quote Russell, he said this, yet he blah, blah, blah. And CLickfunnels, we know it’s good, but it’s not great.” And just totally, for 30 minutes…This is somebody who paid me to coach them to teach them how to do webinars. So I want to put the context, he’s in a coaching group specifically dedicated to teaching people how to do a webinar. Now in this comment he also said, “I tried to join your inner circle, but I couldn’t afford the 25 thousand.” So he’s someone who’s paying me good money to learn to do webinars, doesn’t have enough money in his bank account to pay for my coaching program, so instead what he decides to do is spend how many hours of his life critiquing my webinar and telling me why it was the ugliest webinar he’s ever seen, and all the things I did wrong, how I broke my own rules, on and on and on, and all these kinds of things.
And I read this, I didn’t watch the whole video because I was so just annoyed. I was just dumbfounded. I’m just staring like, I don’t even know how to respond. Should I be angry? Should I be happy? Should I be grateful? Should I be…all these emotions. So I go through the whole range of emotions from pissed, I’m going to flat out kill him, to thank you maybe, or no…all these things in between. And all that kept ringing through my head was the quote from Theodore Roosevelt, and I’m driving right now, or else I would read it for you.
But it says something like this, “It’s not the critic who counts. It’s not the man in the arena who points out how the doer of good deeds has messed up, it’s the man who’s in the arena who’s face is marred with dust and sweat and blood and tears, who maybe he fails but at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his position will never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory, nor defeat.”
And that’s my paraphrase of it, Roosevelt said it way cooler than me, but you get the gist. So in my response, I just copied that and I pasted it and I said, “Hey man, here you go.” And I posted it and then I left one other comment and I’m sure that it was missed by him and probably most people, but what I said was, “If I just watched somebody do a million dollars in an hour, the last thing I would do is critique them on what they could do better. What I would do is zip my lips and I would take notes.”
I look back on the decade that I went through trying to learn this craft and this business. I was speaking at events every single weekend and I was doing my presentation. I was watching other speakers. And I watched some speakers that were horrible, but I watched their presentation and how they do it and be like, “Wow, notice how they did that cool thing, that was awesome.” And I would take that piece and add it back to my thing. I’d notice something and like, “Whoa, that was cool.” And I would….. I never once looked at someone’s presentation in a critical route to try to figure out the things they did wrong so I could coach them through how to do it better. That was never, that thought never crossed my mind in a billion, infinity years.
The only thought that crossed my mind is “What is this person doing that I can use? The way they did that, the way they made that transition, the way they closed.” There were people who sucked, who did not do any good, I still was watching and paying attention and figure out what were the nuggets for me? I think….I can’t remember the comment exactly, but it was something to the point of next someone does a million dollars…..I said “message me the next time you do a million dollars in an hour and let me know, because I want to watch that webinar and I’m going to take notes and not give you feed back.” Because that’s the thing.
So I just wanted to kind of put that out there because I think a lot of times we get too smart for our own good and we’re trying to critique people and that’s not your job, that’s not your role. If I…in all honesty, if I wanted your opinion I would have paid you for it, but I haven’t. Therefore don’t give me your opinion, listen. You paid me, and maybe I didn’t do it perfect. Maybe I did the entire webinar in less than 24 hours, maybe there was a billion things happening at the time. And in spite of all those things, it was the highest grossing webinar of all time for us.
So it’s like, I know there were things wrong. I’m fully aware, that’s why I’m redoing it this week. I didn’t even have a chance to finish my slides, the last 40 slides I copied and pasted from a different presentation, because I ran out of time. Yes, I can critique myself too, but until someone’s paying you for your advice, don’t give them your advice. Sit back and listen.
I’ve done a couple of podcasts on this recently. You as a student should be, you pick your mentors, so pick your mentor and then stop, listen, and then do what they say. Don’t be like, “well you actually said this.” Dude, that’s not your role. Stop, listen. And I say that at the same time that I want to always be coachable. And I feel like I’m a very coachable person. I have multiple coaches working with me in different aspects of my life, but the difference is that I paid those people for their advice because they are at a level beyond me of that thing that I want to learn how to do.
So I would never sign up for John Carlton’s copywriting course and when I was in there critique his sales letters and tell him how to do it better, in a billion years. I would say, dude, I’m paying you, and maybe there’s things I might do different and might do better, but I am listening because I paid you. I am paying attention, trying to find the pieces of gold that I can then apply back to my thing.
So I hope for everybody else who was watching that, you know it was an imperfect thing and hopefully first off, that was inspirational for you to see, wow Russell screwed up a lot and then still made a bunch of money. Maybe there’s something here. And second off, I hope you learn that you’re watching…I did an episode probably a year ago about watching the magician’s hand. I’m trying to, in my books and my podcast and these places, I’m trying to show, I don’t hold things back. I hope you see that. I’m like, here’s everything, and I give it to you so you see it all. But then when I’m doing the thing, watch, pay attention and listen. Watch the magician’s hands at work and see what they’re trying to do and try to understand it. Don’t try to critique. That’s not going to help you or them. Watch and learn.
And that’s all, that’s my message for today. Hope that helps. I hope you guys enjoyed this story. It was a lot of fun. I’m excited to do the webinar again on Thursday, and hopefully I don’t screw it up by fixing it. Anyway, that’s it. I’m going to let you guys go. Appreciate you all. I hope you have an amazing day. Go out there and change the world. Like I said, if I can do a webinar in 24 hours, I’ll give you guys at least 48 because I’ve done it a few times, you’ve got 48 hours to get your webinar done and launched.
We’ve got a bunch of people who have gone through our Two Comma Club coaching, which is all about getting their webinar up and launched and live and some people have gone through the training, we’ve done three cycles of it now. They’ve gone through three cycles of it and still haven’t launched their webinar. It’s like, just do it. Russell what if the webinar software crashes? Yeah, mine could have crashed too, I just did it. What happens if it doesn’t close right? Then just do it, who cares. Just do it again if it doesn’t close. Just do it. Just go out there and just do it. I’m going to go you guys. Appreciate you all, thanks for listening and I’ll talk to you guys soon.
One of the traits of all the truly successful people in the world.
On this episode Russell talks about why he has a new coach and how he let himself and that coach down last week by not keeping a commitment. Here are some awesome things to listen for on this episode:
So listen here if you want to know how to be coachable and be able to succeed.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you guys are ready for some fun.
Alright everyone, I just dropped something off at my kids school because yes, once again, they forgot something. They sound kind of like their dad.
Anyway, I just want to jump on today because I, if you’ve been listening you know that I recently hired another coach in my life. I try to have at least one, if not multiple coaches at any given time to coach me through different stuff. Because I’ve found that, in fact I was telling my kids this last night. I said, if you want to be successful at whatever it is, pick the thing you want to be successful at first, it could be school, basketball, trombone, whatever it is and then number two is find a coach to actually coach you through it.
So that is what I told them last night when I put them to bed. And I told them I practice what I preach. I figure out stuff that I want to be better at in my life and then I go find a coach to coach me through the whole process and hold me accountable. A little while ago I was listening to a podcast from Ryan Moran and Jeff Woods talking about the one thing and loved it. So I called Jeff and hired him and he’s my coach through things. So I had my second coaching call today and I wanted to post this, make this video to walk you guys how to be coachable.
Because it’s shocking to me how uncoachable most people are. In fact, I did a Periscope about this 2 years ago or something like that. It’s funny because I remember when I was wrestling I started doing Freestyle and Greco and that kind of happens during the off season. I had this coach named Greg Williams, who is now the coach at UVU, he would go and teach me stuff and I remember between matches he’d pull me aside, he’s like, “Hey, you need to level change better, you gotta lower your whatever….” And just walk me through what I needed to do and then I’d walk back out and I’d just do the thing he told me.
And I remember because he told me afterwards, after I’d been in the program for a year or so, he said, “You’re one of the most coachable athletes that I’ve ever had. You’re not the most talented, but one of the most coachable.” I was like, “I don’t even…what does that mean, coachable?” he’s like, “Most people I tell them what to do and they listen, nod their head and then they don’t do it. With you, I tell you what to do and with the next match you go and do that thing. That’s not normal. Most people don’t do that. You’re really, really coachable.” I was like, “Huh, I assumed everyone just did that. If they have a coach that they believe in why wouldn’t they just listen to what they say and then do it.”
In fact, I had a podcast a couple of weeks ago talking about pick a mentor, listen and then do. Same thing. I look at, It was funny, Dan Henry, if you know Dan, he’s one of our inner circle members who bought the Dotcom Secrets book, read the chapter on Perfect Webinar, did a Perfect Webinar and within 5 months made a million bucks. So he went into the Clickfunnels group this weekend, he’s like, “Hey guys, Russell taught the Perfect Webinar, I did it and made a million bucks. Why aren’t you guys all just doing that?” He was very confused. Dan’s very coachable.
Then there’s like, as of this morning, 170 comments from people and it was basically 170 excuses of why people hadn’t done it yet. “Well I’m still working on my slides. Well, I’m not really a pitch person. Well, I can’t figure out my offer.” Just thing after thing. And he’s like, “Dude, just freaking do it. You’ve got the best coach in the world telling you….” And it was funny, because even one guy who was a coach was like, “Well I’ve coached my people and it doesn’t work for everyone.” Dan’s comment was like, “Well you must not be a very good coach then.” Which was awesome.
But again, the point of this is being coachable is just doing what the coach says. It’s been fun because I’ve had one coach for the last year that I’m working with on one aspect of my life and she’s been awesome. I’m not perfect at doing what she says, but I think I’m pretty good at doing that. And I assumed that I was with most people, but Jeff’s been coaching me and it’s funny because this was our second coaching call this morning and one of the things he wanted me to do, I didn’t have time to do it. And instead of letting me off the hook, “Oh, it’s okay. You can do it next week.” He was like, I wish you could hear it, it was in the first 30 seconds of the thing. He was like, something like, “What happened?” and I was like, “Oh, I’m actually doing it this week because Todd’s flying in today from Atlanta. Todd’s my partner in Clickfunnels and we’re doing a lot of planning and stuff like that.” And he’s like, “How do you think your planning would have been better if you would have actually finished this?” And I was like, “Oh crap. Probably better.”
Anyway, so it helped put my feet to the fire and then at the end of the call he was basically like, “Okay, next week these are the things you have to have done by…when are you going to have these done?” I was like, “Friday.” He’s like, “That’s not specific enough for me.” “Friday at 4:30 my time.” He’s like, “Cool, if you don’t get them done what happens?” I was like, “You’re going to punish me maybe?” he was like, “If you don’t have it done by Friday at 4:30 we’re cancelling the call for next Monday.” I was like, “Oh crap.” He’s holding my feet to the fire. So many things I could walk you through from a coaching standpoint what I’m enjoying about being coached by him.
But it was just making me make sure I do it. And I think one of the problems a lot of us have is we let ourselves off the hook. In fact, I did it and again, I’m a very, very coachable person. Even with that, this week I let myself off the hook. I don’t need to finish part of it because of this, yet I had committed to getting that part done. It’s just interesting. It’s funny because throughout the week I was proud. We kind of picked out the one thing I was going to focus on for the week. And from that, I had found the roll I was looking for, I found the person doing the interview process, going through the whole thing, and I was impressed by how fast I was moving, yet I hadn’t followed through on all my commitments. I had done most of them but not all of them. And it was just like crap, I gotta remember that. I gotta make and keep commitments.
People that succeed in life, there’s one really strange commonality between all of them, they’re good at not just making commitments, everyone can make commitments, “I’m going to do this. I’m going to lose weight. I’m going to make money. I’m going to blah, blah, blah.” Everyone’s good at making commitments, but people who are successful are good at making and keeping commitments. I failed at one of my commitments for this week and it sucks. It’s frustrated me because I know better than that, I’m someone who makes and keeps commitments and I didn’t on one thing. I did on most of them, but I didn’t keep this one.
So for those of you guys who want to be coachable and want to have success, understand that the big commonality is that successful people are making and keeping commitments. So again, find a coach or whatever it is and then make a commitment and keep that commitment and just do it. And don’t give it all excuses.
Alex Hermosi at the last inner circle meeting said that every sales call you’re on someone’s getting sold. Either you’re selling them on the product or service that they need, or they’re selling you on an excuse of why of they can’t get it. And it’s just like, dang, it’s so interesting. You’re either buying the excuse or they’re buying the product. And it’s the same thing for us. I just look at that thread of 170+ people, they each have their excuse of why they hadn’t done it yet. And Dan was like, “Dude, I did it and within 5 months was a millionaire. Why don’t you guys just do it.” And they’re selling themselves on excuses as opposed to just making a commitment and then keeping a commitment.
So that is my message for today. Make and keep commitments. All successful people do, they’re good at making them and good at keeping them. I failed this week. I made a bunch of commitments and I kept almost all of them but I did not keep all of them. So this week, I’m going to be better. I’m going to make and keep commitments to myself, to my coaches, and to the people that I love and care about, and that I work with and work for and that I serve, and all that kind of stuff.
So that’s my goal and game plan, make and keep commitments this week. I’m going to be very specific, going to write down all the commitments I make, I’m going to make sure that I keep each and every one of them and that is the path of success.
So there you go guys. I hope that helps. Make and keep commitments, write them down and make sure you do them and don’t let yourself off the hook, otherwise you’ll just keep making excuses and again, if you’re buying that success then you didn’t buy the thing you actually gotta do. So that’s all I got you guys. I’m heading in for the day. It’s going to be a fun week, I get to work all week. Todd’s in town, we’re going to plan, we’re going to plot, we’re going to scheme, we’re going to make Clickfunnels even better if that’s possible for all of you guys and try to figure out how to serve you guys better at a higher level. So I appreciate you all, thanks for listening and we’ll see you guys on the next episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast.
It happened the day you took personal responsibility for a problem that wasn’t your own.
On this episode Russell talks about how every entrepreneur is someone who found a problem and took responsibility for it. Here are some of the enlightening things in this episode:
So listen here to find out how to be an entrepreneur by taking responsibility for a problem that you didn’t create but want to fix.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome to a late night episode of Marketing Secrets.
Hey everyone, I’m about to head to bed but I listened to a podcast this week from Ryan Moran, from capitalism.com and he’s got the Freedom Fast Lane show podcast, which is pretty awesome. I love it a lot and he goes deep into the ecommerce side and also business investing and other things that I don’t typically focus on, which has been fun for me to kind of listen to him and world. But he said something in one of his presentations, it was a stage event somewhere, I don’t even know, a few episodes back. And I don’t remember how he said or what he said but it sparked a thought in my mind.
So I’m probably going to slaughter how he said it. He said it probably much better than me, but the concept was so cool. What he basically said is the difference between entrepreneurs and the rest of the world, yes we are different folk if you haven’t noticed. But what he said was interesting, he said, entrepreneurs are the people who see a problem and then take responsibility for it. Isn’t that weird?
I think about the world we live in today. The problem is most people don’t responsibility for anything. Even though they do things that are really bad or wrong or whatever, they won’t take responsibility. They want to blame it on their mom, or their brother, or their sister, or whoever. The world is all about blaming someone else for all the issues that it has. What makes us entrepreneurs weird is we see a problem and instead of blaming somebody else, we look at it and say, “I’m going to take responsibility for that problem, I’m going to figure out an answer.”
And when I heard that I was just like, oh my gosh, that is so interesting. Because most people don’t do that. Most people don’t see an issue, a problem and then be like, “I’m going to take responsibility for that.” I was thinking about this with Clickfunnels for example. For a decade we tried to build funnels and it was frustrating. And yeah, we could have blamed everybody else, I’m sure we did. Everyone else did that, it’s the tech designers, the developers, programming is hard, all the things. It wasn’t for us until we said, you know what it does suck and I’m going to take responsibility for it, this is my issue now. And then we figure out a way to solve it. And that’s when everything changed.
That’s so fascinating. For you, as an entrepreneur, or someone who wants to be an entrepreneur, I think if we all make conscious decision of what we are doing is consciously saying, “That problem right there, I’m taking on myself, I’m taking responsibility for that.” Instead of doing what most of us do, what’s our human nature. “Oh it’s them. Oh it’s her.” I didn’t fix anything because of this, because of this. We just want to pass the blame, pass the buck so often, but that’s what makes us weird. That’s what makes us different. It makes entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs.
We see those problems, we see those issues and we take a personal responsibility for it. I was thinking about this as I was looking at the Inner circle meetings over the last couple of weeks. I could go through all 100 of my entrepreneurs and share this, but just a couple of them off my head.
Pamela Weibold for example, she was a doctor and she started seeing all of her friends who were doctors committing suicide. Person after person after person. And she could have sat there and blamed this, blamed that, but instead she stopped and said, “I’m going to take personal responsibility for this issue and I’m going to save doctors lives.” And she’s gone out there and done that. She’s created a platform. She’s one of the most amazing people I’ve ever seen. She’s literally spent every penny she’s ever made to go and save doctors lives. She’s like, “I can live on 20 grand a year, I’m good. Every penny I make goes back into helping save doctors from committing suicide.”
Because she took that as her own personal responsibility. That’s not her responsibility, it’s not her fault. Yet, she looked at it and said, this is my responsibility. That day she became an entrepreneur.
You think about another one, Annie Grace, who is so cool. She’s someone who her whole life drank socially. It got to a point where she kept drinking and drinking and she couldn’t break away from it. And she started looking around and it wasn’t just her, it was other people and she went on this mission and started saying….and again, drinking is not her responsibility. People struggling and trying to give up alcohol addiction, that’s not her responsibility, she’s got better things to do with her life.
But she looked at it and said, “This problem, I’m going to take responsibility for it.” And she’s gone out and changed thousands of people’s lives. Thousands of people she has helped break away from this addiction that’s robbing them of their freedom, their happiness. She took that personal. She didn’t have to, she didn’t need to but she decided to and that day she became an entrepreneur.
I could go through person after person after person after person, the day that they looked at this thing, this problem that wasn’t even supposed to be their own, but they saw it. And whatever it was, I don’t know if tuition, if it’s God, if it’s a spark, if it’s your brain. Whatever it is, you see it and there’s that spark saying, “That one’s mine. That is the problem I’m going to fix and I’m going to take personal responsibility. It may not be my fault, but I am the one who’s going to fix this and change it.”
And that’s what makes you different as an entrepreneur, and it’s fascinating and exciting. And if you wondered, how do I become an entrepreneur, how do I do that? It’s time to start looking at that and saying, “Instead of pushing responsibility on different places, different things, different people, different whatever, look at a problem and take on that responsibility yourself. And that’s the game plan, that’s how it works.
Anyway, I heard that three or four days ago and it’s been ringing through my head over and over. I keep thinking about person after person after person in my inner circle, and entrepreneurs I work with, and inner circle members, and Two Comma Club members, and I look at the people around me who are serving and doing stuff. Every single time I could link back to, that is the problem they took personal responsibility for. They didn’t have to, they didn’t need to, but they did. And that’s the magic.
So I hope that helps you guys. I hope that rings through your head and makes you start looking and being more aware of the stuff around you that’s happening and trying to figure out what it is that you’re going to take personal responsibility for. Because when you do that, that’s the day you’ll become an entrepreneur, and that’s the day you will literally change the world.
Thanks you guys, so much for everything. Thanks for your support, thanks for your effort. Thanks for your contribution to the world. We love you guys, we appreciate you guys, we enjoy serving you guys. And we’re so grateful that you listen to this podcast. If you like this podcast and learn anything from it, please go to iTunes and subscribe and share it with another entrepreneur who could help. Thanks so much you guys. Talk to you soon.
The power of vulnerability, acting with urgency, and a whole lot more…
On this episode Russell gives some of the awesome highlights from the latest set of Inner Circle mastermind meetings. Here are some interesting things to listen for in this episode:
So listen here to hear these and many other highlights from the inner circle mastermind meetings.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to Marketing Secrets. This is the day after the mastermind and I’ve got a whole bunch of secrets to share with you guys.
Alright everyone, inner circle mastermind just ended. We have been going, basically I’ve had 8 days of inner circle mastermind meetings with a week break. So group one came Monday, Tuesday. It was a group of 25 entrepreneurs. Then Wednesday, Thursday. Then a week off. Then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So 4 groups of 100, 4 groups of 25 equals 100 entrepreneurs, they’re my inner circle. It’s a cool group because its interesting watching how everybody within this group, year after year, everyone keeps growing together.
People first came in a while ago and everyone was trying to get their businesses launched and now it’s getting to the point where they’re doing, last set of meetings everyone was doing 30-50 grand a month. Now at this set of meetings everyone’s doing 100-200 grand a month. Everyone together as a group keeps leveling up. We’ve had a couple of members breaking the million dollars a month mark and now everyone else, that’s what they’re gunning for. It’s just so inspiring and so cool to watch what’s happening.
The businesses and industries are so different. We have everyone from, I’m trying to find the book right now. Dr. Wiebold, Pamela Wiebold who is helping doctors who commit suicide, helping to not commit suicide and literally saving lives, to people teaching business to people teaching dentists, everything in between. So many just amazing people. In fact, I’ve got from this meeting, those who are watching the video, these are my two notebooks, one got completely filled up and one got half filled up. That’s a lot for one set of meetings. Anyway, it’s amazing.
Obviously I can’t share everything, because it would take 8 days. But there were so many cool things. So I’m just going to kind of share a couple things as I’m flipping through here. Maybe over the next few weeks I’ll share other cool thoughts and ideas. So as I’m flipping through my pages, just some things I jotted down that were so, so powerful.
One of them was from Alison Prince, she was talking about through her course that she celebrates the people in her community. She said when she wins they celebrate me, because I celebrate them. I thought, how cool is that? As you’re finding more success, you’ll probably notice this, people around you, you think everybody would be happy for you, but instead it’s usually the opposite where they’re not happy and there’s this weird thing under where you’re like, “you should be happy for me. I’m having success.”
But when you’re depressed, everyone’s like “Oh me too.” And everyone loves you, but when you have success usually people aren’t happy and it’s weird. So it’s kind of cool within your community as you celebrate their success, they celebrate yours. So it gives you a spot to be able to talk about your wins and get people to celebrate with you. So that’s kind of fun.
What else? So many cool things. One thing from Alex and Layla, they were talking about in their ads, that they actually say what they’re really feeling. Most of us who write ads, we’re trying to be all postured like, “number one top secret blah, blah, blah.” And it was cool, what they talked about in their ads. They literally in their ads say, “Hey I feel like a cheesy person writing an ad, but I need to get this message out to you. I’m not going to….You’re probably thinking this right now and I want to make sure that you…..” Just kind of breaking down those barriers in the ad. Because it’s an ad and people know it’s an ad, so instead of being an ad, actually having fun with it. If you saw what their acquisition costs were, it works really, really good.
Another cooll thing, a lot of times we talk about in our company, setting KPI’s, Key Performance Indicators and things like that, but one thing that Alex Charfen said, “if you look at a sports team, there’s two things they all have. If you ask a football team, ‘what are your goals?’ ‘My goal is to win the superbowl and be in the Hall of Fame.’ There’s a superbowl goal, which is like their goal. Then there’s the legacy goal, which is the Hall of Fame.”
So it’s cool, we talked about for a company what is your superbowl goal? And what’s your Hall of Fame goal? And also within your organization, with working with you team members, what’s their superbowl, what’s a win for your company? Do they know what it is? I don’t think my team knows. I haven’t really sketched, “This is our goal. This is how we get to the superbowl.” It hasn’t ever been defined, this is the thing, this is how we get in the hall of fame. And I think now that that’s a thing in my head, I’m so excited to figure out what’s our company’s superbowl goal and what’s our hall of fame goal? When you have those it becomes more clear, more tangible.
David Derricks awesome, talking about a bunch of stuff. One thing is he just wrote a new book called the Dream 100, which is a big concept none of us ever…I talk about it all the time and nobody ever does it. And my quote at the top says this is the foundation for our entire company. If you’re not doing Dream 100 yet, it’s time to start. Go back and listen to any of my stuff on Dream 100 but it’s how we figured out what our market was, what our blue ocean was. How we figured out where our customers…..everything we’ve done was based on the Dream 100 concept. There’s so many good things here. I don’t even know where to…
Oh this is a good one. So Brian Bowman, such a stud. He had a really cool, emotional presentation. He talked about how he was working hard and moving forward and getting things done. And he had a coach who was one of Garret White’s coaches, one of the Warrior Week coaches. He asked, “What’s your target?” and he’s like, “This is what I’m going for.” And then he asked him, “Are you operating with a sense of urgency?” And Brian, while he’d been working hard and hustling and all these kinds of things, he’s like, “Am I operating with a sense of urgency?” And I don’t have permission to tell his story behind what and how, but as soon as he had that thought in his mind, everything shifted for him.
He went and instead of moving things toward a goal he was like, “I need to operate with a sense of urgency.” And I think how many times for us we’re like, “Yeah, we’re moving forward, moving towards things. I’m going to launch my product someday. I’m going to write my book. I’m blah, blah, blah.” Whatever our thing is, but it’s like that’s good, but are you operating with a sense of urgency? Is this doing…when is this….this needs to be urgent. If it’s not urgent, you’re never going to do it. So are you operating with a sense of urgency? That was just so powerful. How many times do we not do that? How many times are we just kind of wandering, doing our thing, and it’s not urgent. Because of that days turn into weeks, weeks turn into months, months turn into years and sometimes we never get it accomplished.
I think one of the big reasons we’ve had so much success with Clickfunnels is because we do operate with a sense of urgency. I’m always stressing out, which maybe is to my downfall, it’s what makes me tired all the time. I just think it’s interesting, operating with a sense of urgency, having that as a thing we are thinking through all the time. So many good things.
What else, what else? Natalie Hodson talking about the power of vulnerability. How vulnerability is the ultimate human connector. So many of us, we try to be postured and perfect and that’s why, because we’re trying to get connection, we think people want to see us perfect and instead it actually pushes people away. How vulnerability is the big secret. It was interesting, Natalie just joined the inner circle. But she came to our FHAT event in February, five or 6 months ago and she was telling this story. She was creating, she’s in the weight loss, fitness market, and she was working out live on Live streaming or Facebook Live or whatever, she did a work out. She’s a mom, she has two kids and during her workout she wet herself, on camera, live in front of the entire world and how embarrassing it was.
And obviously that’s an embarrassing thing and most people would never talk about that again, they would leave the video, they would run away from it. But instead she realized that, “If I’m struggling with this, I bet other people probably are too. Maybe I can help them.” And she found a business partner or a content person, who that’s what they specialize in. Helping women to strengthen their pelvic floor so they don’t have those issues. And she created a $37 dollar book teaching the process and she put it out there and on a sales page she’s got pictures of her on a live stream with peed pants in front of the entire world. And she talked about this problem that she has and she knows all these other women have.
Anyway, from February until now she sold 50,000 copies of a $37 book. So over a million dollars in sales. And think about how many women’s lives she’s been able to affect because she didn’t posture herself and come off perfect all the time, because she was willing to be vulnerable. It’s just such a powerful thing. I look at the times in my life when I’ve gotten real connection with my audience, it’s not when I’ve been sharing the highlight reel, like we like to do. I think what’s good to do is sometimes to touch on the high reel. “Hey, I’m awesome. Just want to make sure you know this, but let me tell you the truth.” And then break it down. And that has been a theme.
In fact, the third inner circle group, I think I’ve never seen so many tears in a mastermind group in my life. The girls were crying, the men were crying, everybody was crying. But because people actually got vulnerable and shared and that’s been a big theme throughout the inner circle. You go to other masterminds and people are sharing the highlight reel and bragging about stuff, where with us everyone has to share, “Here’s what we’re doing awesome, but let me get vulnerable and share with you what’s actually happening.” And then we work at that level. It’s different and interesting and causes real actual change.
Anyway, it was amazing. I wish I could take all of you guys along on these journeys. But a lot of our inner circle members are going to be speaking at Funnel Hacking Live. The sales page for Funnel Hacking Live will be going live next week, it’s at funnelhackinglive.com and you’ll have a chance to hear Natalie talk about the power of vulnerability, a lot of these other people I pick are speakers for the most part, inner circle members. So I have a chance to see them present here in my office a couple of times a year. I get to know them intimately, I understand their business, I understand where it fits with what I want to share with our audience. So a lot of them will be speaking at this.
So if you don’t have tickets yet, when we go live next week, get them. We pre-sold out over a thousand tickets, I think we have another, I don’t know how many left. Not a lot. So if you want to be there, you know you need to be there and you do, now is the time. Funnelhackinglive.com, get on the waiting list and then wait. My guess is probably Tuesday it will go live. So by the time you hear this, it may be live. But make the effort to be there. It’ll be worth it, I promise you, it will change your life forever. It’s going to be a lot of fun.
So yeah, that’s basically the best spot to get the actual highlights, at Funnel Hacking Live. Anyway, with that said, appreciate you. Thanks so much for listening in today to the podcast, and we’ll talk to you guys again soon. Bye.
A really cool lesson I learned from my new coach and how it applies to your funnel.
On today’s episode Russell talks about how his new coach has helped him figure out his someday goal and the steps he should be taking to achieve it. Here are some interesting things you’ll hear in this episode:
So listen here to learn the steps to achieving your someday goals.
Hey what’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets.
Hey everyone, hope you guys are all having an amazing day. I’m home from 2 days of inner circle mastermind meetings, which have been insanely cool. All the groups are so amazing, but this one was emotional. I think everybody in the group cried at least once or twice or something. It was crazy. So amazing. It’s an honor to be part of it and hang out with awesome entrepreneurs like that who are literally changing the world in so many different markets and industries. I wish I could just tell you guys all the stories from everyone.
But it was amazing and we got the last group, group 4 coming the next two days. So it’s been fun, stressful, exciting all wrapped up into one amazing thing. Also it’s been fun, I mentioned a little while ago how I hired a new coach, and it’s been really, really good. He’s one of the main guys over at The One Thing, his name is Jeff. It’s interesting because I read The One Thing book a while ago and I remember, I think when I read it I didn’t like it. I think at the time we had just launched 12 companies in a year. And I was bitter against it, but everyone kept recommending it to me. That book and the Essentials came out at similar times and everyone was like, “you gotta read them.” So I read them both and I was just like, “They want me to focus on one thing. I hate that idea.”
So I kind of didn’t like the books. And fast forward to last week, I just kind of got back into it in the last week. I went and listened to a bunch of podcasts from The One Thing, I started re-reading the book, I got the main dude coaching me Monday mornings and it’s really, really cool. What’s interesting is, since he started coaching me, I’ve had this big epiphany, big aha, big realization inside, and then as I’ve been coaching the inner circle the last two days, I’m watching the people who are leveling up really, really quickly and there’s a consistent theme behind all the people who are growing fast versus who…..everyone’s growing, but the ones who are really quick.
It’s interesting thing, it’s funny, the thing that I got in my coaching session was, it came back to Steven R. Covey, 7 Habits of Highly Effective people, which I read back in high school. It was start with the end in mind. It’s been interesting, as I’ve been going through the coaching stuff. Man the first, it feels like it’s been like a month because I move pretty quick on stuff. But the first exercise he had me do was figure out, what is your someday goal? Where do you want to be someday? So it’s not like 5 years from now, or 10 years, like in the future, where is it you really want to go?
It’s been interesting as I’ve kind of done this exercise, I can walk you guys through what it is, but it’s morphed, 3 or 4 times to radically different things and I one of the big aha’s I realized when I went through this exercise is that literally my someday goal, I achieved it like 18 months ago. So the last 18 months I’ve been wandering without really a focus or a goal other than just more, which is interesting.
So he’s had me keep focusing, what’s your someday goal? Begin with the end in mind. What are we trying to get to? So I figured out initially, here’s my someday goal, and someday goal can be about your business, you personally, your relationships, your spirituality, whatever you’re trying to figure out for yourself. Then he came back and said, “Okay, what do you have to had accomplished within 5 years to keep you on track for your someday goal?” So I was like, “Okay well, to have that I need to have this in place, these things need to be in place in the next 5 years.” And he came back and said, “Okay, what do you need within a year to be able to hit your 5 year goal? And what do you need by the end of this year to hit your one year goal? And what do you need by the end of this week to hit your yearend goal? Or your month goal?”
So as you do this it’s interesting because you start getting more and more clear on all the steps. It was funny because it was like, as I did that, as I identified, had the end in mind, I started going back forward and I got to the things I needed to do. I looked at my to-do list and none of the things on my to-do list actually got me any closer to my someday goal.
All the sudden I realized that I’m doing all these to-do’s that are good, they make me feel good, I check off the box, but none of them are actually moving me towards what I’m really wanting. I was like, well what’s the one thing I need to do today that’s going to help me hit my goal for the end of this week, which will hit my goal for the end of the month, blah blah, blah, all the way to the thing. And as I started asking those questions it blew my mind what the one thing was that I needed to focus on. It was not by any stretch what I thought it was going to be, what I assumed was the most important thing.
And after this exercise he wanted me to come back and refine it and change things. So I kept getting….my someday goal changed three or four times and I started realizing as I was looking at that, it took me a while to figure it out. In fact, I still don’t know if I have it completely figured out.
But the message I want to share with you guys is just that. Beginning with the end in mind. Again, the inner circle members having the most success is because they have a very clear end in mind. What is it they are trying to accomplish? And from there it’s easy to reverse engineer the funnels and make that happen. People who are struggling, they’re building funnels to be able to sell a product or a service, not with the end in mind. Does that make sense? It’s a little intricacy, but it’s interesting.
I’ve had this really cool experience over the last two days, to kind of reflect I’m listening to all my entrepreneurs talk and teach and share what they’re doing and really start thinking more and more, what is the end? I need to know really clearly for my business, I need to begin with the end in mind. Or is my goal to get people in Clickfunnels? Is my goal to get people in Two Comma Club Coaching? Is my goal to get people into Inner Circle? What is the actual end goal?
As soon as you identify it, that becomes the end goal and it becomes easy to see, well if that’s it, here are the funnels I need to reverse engineer to get people so that they will come up into that thing. For example, Dean Holland, he’s been in my inner circle for 3 years now. He basically over the last few months shut his entire company down and rebuilt it from the ground up but this time with a definite, very clear end in mind. This is where I’m trying to go. Because of that built out the funnels very simply in order, he launched and in the first 28 days built up $106,000 recurring income. Just because he began with an end in mind.
So I think most of us, including me. I’m guilty of this as well, that’s been my big thing for the last 2 days, what’s the end goal. From a business standpoint, from a life standpoint, but also the customer journey, the value ladder. I talk a lot about in the Dotcom Secrets book, this value ladder, taking somebody through. But I would say even my value ladder isn’t completely clearly defined. It’s morphed and changed so much and I’m really coming back now and figuring that out.
Dana Derricks when he was doing his presentation he was talking about his big aha. He said that us as creators want to keep creating and creating and creating. He said because of that, “If I look at my value ladder it kind of goes up a little and then it splits off in three different places. Some of those go up and some don’t and it gets really mushy really quick.” He realized he had to clearly define the value ladder. We’re going from here to here to here. So now he’s beginning with the end in mind. And what he said was interesting. It’s was funny because it’s something that I, a recurring thought I’ve had in my mind as well. Okay, I can’t keep creating new stuff that just spurts off my value ladder and shifts people all over the place.
If I need to get my creative juices out there and just create something, the things I create need to be on the front end of the value ladder. They should only be free plus shipping or they should only be low ticket things to get somebody in, but the back of the value ladder should never shift, never change. That should be just a thing that’s there. And man, I just resonate with that. I was like, okay I obviously have my value ladder, I’ve got things in place, but I need to really specify this is the path, the process, the order and then just focus on the front end stuff. So it’s exciting.
I’m working on something so cool, I wish I could show you guys. You will see it soon. I’m probably about thirty days away from rolling it out. It’s not a big product launch or anything, it’s a subtle, but I’m calling it an ascension funnel that is almost like a video game to send people through our value ladder. And to be able to accomplish, or get people to the end in mind, get them to that spot. So I’m crafting, we’ve got the design of it done and we’ve got the pieces and I’m figuring out the path. So you will see, you’ll probably start getting emails and you’ll, you may not be aware of it, so please watch. Watch what I’m doing. If you see an email and you click on it and there’s a cartoon thing, then you know that it’s being executed. I’m going to be sharing it at Funnel Hacking Live though, probably. As long as it works good, which I’m pretty sure it will.
Nobody talks about ascension funnels because no one’s really executed one that I’ve seen successfully for almost 5 1/2 , 6 years. And the one I saw was just because I had intimate behind the scenes access to the person’s business who was doing it. Anyway, I’m going to be mastering it, perfecting it and then we’ll be showing it at Funnel Hacking Live. So if you haven’t got your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. The event sales page will be going live next week, but by the time you hear this, it’ll probably be live or close to live. We’ve already pre-sold 1200 tickets, so we don’t have a ton left, so if you want to come to the event…and I know you do. I would go to funnelhackinglive.com ASAP and get your tickets.
So that’s the game plan. The last thing I wanted to kind of say is, again so many of us start our business like, here’s a product and we start building funnels based on that product. There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s how most people do it. It’s how I’ve done it a lot of times. Because of that, I think we get lost in the weeds of where we’re trying to go and often times we never get there because we don’t know where we’re going. And again, as I’ve been working with my coach on this, which has been really fun. It’s been cool because I’m clearly defining my someday goal, clearly defining the end and then from there I can reverse engineer all the pieces I need to make that happen.
I think the same thing is true with funnels. It’s just begin with the end in mind. What’s the top of the value ladder? Where do you really want to take people? Figure that out and then reverse engineer, to do that here are the funnels I need. You got a path and a process. Anyway, it’s exciting. I love it. I love this game. I love my entrepreneurs. I love the inner circle. I love all of you guys. I love Clickfunnels. I’m having the time of my life. And hopefully, also I’m helping. I’m doing my best.
It’s funny, I was reading, somebody I care about wrote a really cool post about what we do. And I was reading it and in the comments 3 or 4 people who were like, “I just don’t like Russell. I can’t connect with him. I don’t like his energy. I don’t like…” Whatever. It just kills me. It’s tough because I’m always trying to give and serve and do whatever I can and I hate when I don’t connect with everybody. But that’s okay as well. Hopefully my message gets to you and you’re able to take whatever it is you share out to people. And people connect with you, people I would never connect with. Hopefully you can connect with them and change them. So that’s one of my goals. Hopefully I connect with you and if I do, that’s the key. Take your energy, get out there, share your message with other people and change the world the way you can.
Because unfortunately not everyone is always going to like me. And that’s the same for you. Not everyone’s going to like you. But the people who do, they’ll hear your voice and they’ll come to you and you’ll be able to help them and serve them and it’ll make the quality of their life so much better, which in return will make the quality of your life so much better. So that’s all I got tonight you guys. Appreciate you all, I’m going to go to bed and get ready for inner circle tomorrow and that’s about it. See you guys soon. Bye.
Listen in on this unique conversation after a late night mastermind outside the Clickfunnels headquarters.
On this episode Russell talks about contrast with Dave and Steven. Here are some interesting things to listen for in today’s episode:
So listen here to find out why contrast in your marketing is so important.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell, I’m here with Dave and Steven, what’s up guys? Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast, we got a special edition happening right now.
Okay, so we just got done. We had a little Boise Mastermind group, they meet every month around different places, and we never had a chance to go. But we actually hosted it here in the Clickfunnels offices tonight. So we put the kids to bed and come here and we’re here for 4 hours or so, talking about tons of stuff.
So we just had a really cool conversation while Dave went back in to go to the bathroom and he missed it.
Dave: It’s Alex Charfen’s fault.
Russell: Alex did this podcast about the number one supplement for entrepreneurs and it ends up being water and then…
Dave: 3 gallons later.
Russell: It’s really convincing, you guys should listen to it. We’re all obsessed, have you listened to it yet?
Steven: Well I know enough that I’m just drinking a lot of water.
Russell: It kind of freaked us out so we’re drinking insane amounts of water. It’s like bathroom breaks every 30 seconds. Dave’s like, “I gotta go to the bathroom.” And then he missed this huge conversation. So I gotta retell it and I might as well retell it right now with you guys because it was actually really interesting.
So what we’re talking about…I got a black face, let me come here in the light. Let there be light. Alright so what we’re talking about. So those who are listening you have no idea what’s happening, but those watching the video, we’re in front of the Clickfunnels offices at nighttime, we’re under the streetlight.
So I was listening to a podcast that Ryan Deiss did on the perpetual traffic talking about the Chatbooks viral video and he basically played it, paused it, talked about the before state and the after state of the woman in that video. Which you guys have seen the video obviously. If you havne’t seen the video go to harmonbrothers.com and click on the Chatbooks video. Probably the best, I would say probably their best viral video, it’s really, really good.
But he’s talking about the before state and the after state and how good that video did. Here’s where she was at before, here’s where you’ll be after the product. Before, after, before, after. We started talking about how the big secret to copy and sales is contrast. I was telling them ten years ago I went to a course with Matt Furey, he talked about contrast. He said contrast is the key to everything.
Because you have the contrast of where they’re at and where they want to go and then your message in the middle there is what creates the desire for them to go from this to this. He talked about an email that’s like, in the course I was studying with Matt Furey it was email marketing, he was like, “Every good email has tons of contrast. Light and dark, happy, sad, fat, skinny, rich, poor. The contrast is what makes it interesting and then it’s what creates the desire to go from the before state to the after state.
That’s the whole key, the contrast. A lot of people never think about that, but as you’re writing the emails, think about the contrast. The before state, again the way Ryan Diess explained it, the before state and after state, which was brilliant. In fact, I had never watched the Chatbooks video through that lens before, but if you watch it through that lens of the before state and the after state you see it over and over again. You see that she’s in the tub at first and she’s the smiling mom in the bathtub, so it’s like, this is a nice thing. Then she stands up and she’s fully clothed and the kids in the tub with her and she’s like, “I fell in while timing him holding his breath.” There’s the before and it keeps transitioning back and forth.
So in any of your communication, whether you’re doing storytelling, or writing emails, or sales letters, or videos, whatever, the contrast is the key. So with the contrast you’re thinking about that, if you told a story about how fit you are, nobody cares, there’s no contrast. It’s like, “I was fat, I was sick, I was unhealthy, I was whatever.” You tell that first and then you tell the contrast to the other thing and the contrast is what creates the desire for somebody to change, which is what they need to have to give you money and that kind of stuff.
So the contrast is a secret, in the before state and the after state, that’s the magic. We gotta rewrite the Expert Secrets book, stop the presses. Let’s add in this thing. So yeah, we just kind of had that epiphany as we were talking. So there you go. Contrast, add it in everything you do to create the before states and the after states. And it’s really fascinating. So watch that. Watch it in the viral videos, watch it in email. As you’re watching good marketers, try to notice the contrast. Because the better the contrast, the more desire is created. So watch how they do it, watch how I do it, watch how other people do it, that’s the secret.
There you go guys, marketing secret number whatever we’re on, hope you guys like that. With that said, it’s time for us to go home and go to bed. So bye everybody.
The fastest way to succeed in anything in life.
On today’s episode Russell talks about finding a coach and actually doing what they say. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for today:
So listen here to find out how to find success by finding a mentor or coach you can trust.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast.
Hey everyone, I’m really excited, I know I’m always excited, but today I’m especially excited because yesterday I hired a new coach. If you’ve been listening to the podcast for 5 years like you should have been, I’ve talked about this before in the past. But I’m a big, big, big, big believer in coaching. When I was wrestling I always had a coach, I usually had 3 or 4 coaches. I had a freestyle coach, Greco coach, nutrition coach, strength training coach. But sometimes we get in business and we’re like, “Oh we’re so smart, we don’t need coaches.” And no, you’re wrong.
In fact, it’s kind of funny because a lot of people I know who are really successful in this business for a long time who no longer are, they’re like the last people to go and get coaching. It blows my mind, because they think they know how to do it all. I’m kind of at the top of my game right now, I don’t know, maybe it’ll go higher, but I definitely think I’m 9 ½ minutes into my 10 minutes of fame, what it is 15 minutes of fame, 14 ½ minutes in.
So who knows when this whole thing will go down, but for me I’m at the peak of where I’ve ever wanted or dreamt of being. I’m still trying to find coaches to coach me in different areas of my life and different aspects and different things. I’ve had health coaches, business coaches, all sorts of stuff. Yesterday, actually two days ago I was listening to a podcast, actually the Freedom Fast Lane podcast by Ryan Moran, and he was doing a call with this dude, and the guy coached him through this thing on the podcast. I was like, that was insane. I said out loud that I want that guy to do that thing for me every Monday morning to keep me focused on what I’m doing.
And I’m not going to tell you his name, not because I wouldn’t share, but because I don’t want all you guys trying to hire him, because that’s not his core business. But anyway, the next day I messaged Ryan I was like, “Dude, I need this guys info.” And he’s like, “Oh.” And then I messaged 50 other ways and finally Dave got a hold of him and two hours later I was on a call with him. During this call he literally did a laser coaching thing with me and I was like, “This is so awesome. I want this every week.” And it’s kind of funny, this isn’t his full time gig, doing coaching like that. He’s like, “Well, where do you want to go?” I’m like, “I want to write you a big check for money and then you do this every Monday morning for me.” And he’s like, “Okay.” So I did, I wrote him a check. And now next Monday I have my first actual thing and it’s so exciting.
I’ve had different coaches in my life. I have a coach every Tuesday morning I meet with more on like, it’s Tara Williams, who is an energy coach, but it kind of goes in different directions, from spiritual to physical to mental to business to relationships, all over the place. So that’s one that touches on different areas of my life, but this is very specific on focus and intent and I’m so excited. I’m excited for that.
I wish you guys could see how I was jumping around, crazy. I was so excited to give someone money to be able to coach me. Because it gets hard, the different levels you get to, it’s harder to find a coach who’s there, who can take you through a different aspect, so it’s just exciting for me. I’m so excited. In fact, that’s why as a coach, I obviously coach a lot of entrepreneurs, I don’t want my students or friends, whatever you want to call them. I want to keep progressing myself so that they keep having something to tap into, if that makes sense.
I’ve had a lot of coaches throughout the years, that I came in and really quickly we met and then surpassed and I’m like, I can’t get stuff out of it. I don’t want my people ever feeling that way. That’s why I’m always pushing myself, pushing myself, pushing myself just so that I’m always as sharp as possible so I can keep serving and giving and coaching.
But anyway, I’m just excited and what’s interesting, and this is the point of the podcast, not that you guys care that I hired a coach. But more so it’s because at the last Inner Circle meeting last week, we had 4 days of Inner Circle and I got 4 days next week too, I’m so excited. But what’s interesting, I watched a pattern. It was such an interesting pattern.
First off, people in the inner circle are people who, they hear what I say, they do it and then they succeed. It’s really interesting. They hear what I say, they do it, and then they have success. Hear, do succeed. Hear, do, succeed. When I was wrestling, I remember one of my coaches telling me, “You’re one of the most coachable people I’ve ever had.” I said, “What do you mean?” “Well you hear what I say and then you go and do it. I literally between matches will show you your level was too high. You need to lower your levels, be moving more. Next match you’re doing that. Most people I tell them that over and over and it takes weeks or months or years to even attempt it. I tell you something and you just do it.” And I’m like, “Yeah, isn’t that how it should work?” You hear someone you trust, that you hired, that you are paying to be a coach, someone who is your coach, you hear them, you then do that thing, and you make money. Or you hear that thing, do it and then wrestle better. That’s the process.
So the key first off, you gotta tap into somebody that you trust. Someone who you know is not going to lead you astray, someone who knows more than you do. So when you hear them, you’re not second guessing should I do that, should I not? You gotta pick the mentor that you have 100% faith and trust in. It could be me, someone else, I don’t care, just pick somebody where you’re like, I have absolute faith in that person’s opinion. Therefore I will do whatever they say. I will hear and then I will do and then I’ll have success.
But what’s interesting is during this whole inner circle, again, I’m watching and most of these people, that’s who they are. They hear, they do, they succeed. That’s why there are able to afford 25 grand to come hang out with us a couple of times a year. That’s why they’re having success. But as I was watching, not all of them, but probably 60% of our inner circle members are also coaches in different markets, different industries, things like that. And what’s interesting is almost all of them said “I’ve got these students and they just hear what I say and do it and they have success. But I’ve got all these other ones who don’t.” And I was like, it’s so fascinating to me that people that have success what do they do. They heard, they did, they had success. The one’s who didn’t, they heard, they questioned, they thought about it, they flip flopped, they over analyzed, they studied something else, they did this, they….they get stuck in this thing in the middle that they don’t really hear.
And it’s just so fascinating for me. Yesterday when I heard, two days ago when I heard that podcast and the second I heard it I was like, “I heard it, now I’m going to go do so I can be successful.” How am I going to do it? I know I’m going to forget or it’s going to be hard so I’m going to pay someone so I can do it. So I heard, did, boom now I guarantee you guys will see in the next 6 months, the changes in my company and hopefully in me personally because of this coaching.
Again, I could have heard the podcast and thought about it and tried things, but no I heard it, I’m going to go do it and then I’m going to be successful. So if anything you get from this, there is a pattern of people who are successful in all areas of life. The pattern is number one, they find the mentor, the person, the coach, whatever they believe to get them where they are, and then they put on blinders. They hear, they do, they succeed. Hear, do, succeed. Hear, do, succeed. That’s it.
And if you’re not successful, something happened. Number one you picked the wrong mentor, so you picked someone you’re not really trusting or they have bad advice, bad strategy whatever. So if that’s the case, pick somebody that has the right strategy that you trust. That’s number one, so you do it. Number two, you have to listen to them. Now listening, I said this to one of my friends one time. There’s two types of listeners in the world, those who listen and those who wait to be heard. And a lot of you guys are hearing stuff, but you’re waiting to be…..You’re trying to inject this thing in the middle, and I don’t want you guys being the people who are waiting to be heard. You are hiring a coach so you can listen.
So stop, get the right person with the right strategy, pay them whatever it takes, then listen. Listen. Even if you think you know a better way, you read a blog post or a book or someone who has a different…it doesn’t matter. There’s a million ways to skin a cat. Pick a strategy from a person and then listen to what they say, and then whatever they say, do it. That’s it, just do it. And then what will happen? You will have success. Listen, do, succeed. Listen, do, succeed. It’s a pretty simple strategy. It’s somewhere between the listening and the succeeding we get caught up trying to think or over analyze or whatever it is.
In fact, it’s interesting, people that are really good at school typically, the reason I think they don’t succeed in this kind of world is because they listen and they analyze and think….it’s good to think for yourself, but you’re hiring someone who already thought through these things for you. Like this dude yesterday, I don’t know, I’m guessing he was surprised at how he said something and I’m like, “Okay, I’m doing it. Done.” I listen, I heard, I did. I’m not like, “Well, my company is bigger than yours and I did this…” or whatever. No, I listen, I do, I succeed. I trusted him enough to give him money, therefore I’m trusting his strategy with 100% certainty that this is the way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have picked him, I wouldn’t have paid him, I wouldn’t have whatever. I chose that person, therefore I will listen with 100%, I have 100% certainty that everything he says is going to be truth, therefore I will listen, I will do and I will succeed.
So this message is mostly for those of you guys who are struggling. My guess is that somewhere between this little chain that you’re missing. You picked the wrong person to tap into a strategy. But if you’re listening to this, you’re listening to me, so obviously you picked the right thing. So you got the right strategy to listen, do, and succeed. Boom, that’s it.
I look at Brandon and Kaelin, literally Brandon and Kaelin come to every event, they’re at everything we do. They listen to every podcast, they’re probably listening to this right now smiling and saying, “Russell keeps dropping our name again.” They listen to everything. They picked somebody they trusted, they listen, and they do. I will literally be onstage at an event talking about a concept and I get off stage, and Brandon’s like, “hey that thing you just said, I just launched it.” I’m like, “What?” He’s like, “yeah, While you were talking I did it.” He’s listening, he did it, he’ll succeed. That’s why their company is going…..
Everyone else in the room is sitting there listening, listening, taking notes, thinking about how cool it would be, and then they hang out in networking and they’re talking and….No, Brandon is there listening, doing and that’s why they’re so successful.
So for you, look at that chain, there’s four elements. Pick the right mentor with the strategy and have absolute certainty in what they say, listen to what they’re saying, again listen, not waiting to be heard. Listen, then do it. Whatever they say, don’t even… Just do it. Just jump off the cliff. I trusted this person, therefore I will jump off the cliff if they tell me to. Just do it. And then get success. That’s it. That’s it, it is really that easy. So easy. It’s insanely easy. I don’t know why we keep complicating this. So don’t complicate it.
If you do this thing and don’t have success, there’s somewhere in here, either you didn’t hear it right, or you didn’t do it right, or you picked the wrong strategy. If you get the right strategy up front, you listen and you do, then you’ll have success. It’s inevitable. You can’t not succeed.
So there you go guys, I hope that helps. It should help you, but it should also help the people you’re coaching. It should help, so many ways. Understand that guys, that’s the key. That’s all I got guys. I’m heading into the office today. It’s Wednesday, I got a lot more fun stuff to do today, I’m excited. Appreciate yo all for listening and subscribing to the podcast. If you’re not subscribed yet, go to iTunes.com and subscribe or I guess marketingsecrets.com there’s a link to the iTunes, that might be easier. And then please rate, review, let us know, share this, if you got any benefit from this. Appreciate you all, thanks so much for everything and I will talk you all again soon. Bye everybody.
All the little things you’re not doing to get more traffic now.
On this episode Russel talks about the big theme in the company right now, which is going from ten million dollars a year to a hundred million. He talks about what they are doing to be able to build a blueprint to help others do what they have done. Here are some cool things in this episode:
Listen to all this and more, and don’t forget to get your tickets for Funnel Hacking Live before they are gone.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast, formerly known as Marketing In Your Car. Right now we are back in the car, so I feel a little nostalgic. Going to a dentist appointment today, starting in 6 minutes. It’s probably a 10 minute drive and traffic is literally stopped. My wife told me not to take Chinden and I did anyway, it’s my own fault. Should have listened. Anyway, that’s what’s going on today.
Alright everybody, so I hope everyone out there is having an awesome time. It’s been really fun this week. If you listen along as we go, two weeks ago we had a FHAT event, and then the viral video event, which went awesome. Then last week I had 4 days of Inner Circle meetings and a one day consult, so last week I didn’t even get to do any of my own work. And yesterday was the first day I got to get back and actually do my own thing, which was awesome and exciting and amazing and I’m so grateful for it.
So it was fun to kind of get back to work. And it’s been interesting, as I’ve been talking to Inner Circle a lot, I keep telling people phases of this. It’s going 0 to a million, a million to ten, ten to 100, and if you listen to me talking about this, it’s going to be a big theme at Funnel Hacking Live this year. By the way, tickets for that are going on sale this week. So they’ll be at Funnelhackinglive.com, we should have some ticket sales. We pre-sold over a thousand tickets already, so we don’t have a lot of tickets left, but those are going on sale this week. By the time you’re listening to this, it might be live. So if you want to go to Funnel Hacking Live, go to funnelhackinglive.com.
Anyway, so that’s been the big theme in my Inner Circle, a big them in my company, everything like that. Yesterday was the first time I had a chance to really focus on the traffic part of it, which is fun because going from 0 to a million is all about figuring out your what and your how. What are you selling and how are you selling it? The sun is bright in my eyes, sorry. And after you figure that out, you know you figured it out because you go from 0 to a million dollars over night as soon as you figure that out. So figuring out the what and the how is the first phase.
After you figure that out, the second phase is scaling that. So it’s coming down to building out the infrastructure. Actually let me step back. 0 to a million is everything we talk about in Expert Secrets, finding out what you’re selling, who you are, what you message is, finding your voice, etc, etc. And number two is when you go from a million to ten, it’s all about basically the Dotcom Secrets principles, building out a value ladder, front ends, back ends, maximizing the journey and the process and all that kind of stuff.
So that’s the second phase. The third phase is going from ten to a hundred million, and that’s where we’re at right now. Some of you may or may not know, I bought trafficsecrets.com from John Reese, and that’s going to be, I don’t know if it’s the next book, but it’s the next book in the series. It’s going to be all about that part, how to scale the traffic, so going from ten to a hundred million.
So what’s fun is that yesterday was the first time we had a chance to sit down in a room all day and plan and map it and really build out that process. What’s interesting, as I look at our business, to this point. We’ve done well this year, it doesn’t matter. It’s grown really, really well. We’re doing some pretty good things, but what’s been interesting, if you look at how we’ve done things up to this point, the focus is all on the funnel. So we build the funnel and when that funnel’s done we go and drive traffic, we go and buy ads and do those kind of things like that.
Whereas this new phase, the sun is so bright in my eyes….The new phase we’re going into, which is scaling beyond, it’s all about getting more people into the front of the funnel. Because after you get people in front of the funnel, the structure, all the Dotcom Secrets, front end, back end funnels, value ladder, all that stuff’s already built out. You don’t need to keep adding stuff there. Now it’s just about dumping more fuel into the fire. So that’s the kind of phase we’re in now, which is an exciting, fun phase.
So what’s interesting, we were mapping this thing out. I wish I could show you guys all the pre funnel stuff. Most people are like, here’s my funnel, what’s the ad I’m going to buy? The process we’re working on and we’re building out internally is there’s four phases that happen before you ever get to the ad. There’s the research phase. There’s a whole bunch of research we’re going into, keywords, headlines, articles, who are we trying to be. Funnel hacking deep, so that’s the research phase.
From there we have a bunch of stuff, deliverables, based on that, here’s the 30 or 60 or 90 headlines we need to create videos for. Here’s the 15000 word article we need to create. Here’s the title and keywords we’re focusing on. And then here’s…..it’s going through all that stuff, the deliverables. Then after that, we have to produce all that stuff. So the third phase is going and, if it’s me, it’s doing a billion videos…. I got off the busy street…..doing a billion videos, writing the content, all this stuff is the production phase.
And then when the production phase is over, then it goes to the asset phase, which is like each video turns into 5 thumbnail, or 5 quote cards. A YouTube video, Facebook video, all the actual assets that need to be created. And then from there it’s handed to the promotional team, which is phase 5 and the promotional team takes all this stuff and uses it to promote the funnel.
So it’s crazy, so exciting. It honestly blows my mind that we built our company as far as we have, based on literally us building a really good funnel and turning on ads and that’s it. We’re missing…. again it comes back to the tip of the iceberg. We’re doing the tip, but we’re missing the rest. So now we’re coming back and doing the rest of it.
And I really think, outside of there’s a lot of infrastructure and people and other things we need in place as we’re growing from…to a hundred million and beyond. So we’re working on those kind of things. But what’s interesting, from the traffic side, that’s what we’re building out now. Building out the systems and it’s exciting.
It is a process starting right now, it started yesterday and it will culminate probably in the next 18 months in a book called Traffic Secrets, so it’ll be showing you guys behind the scenes of what it ended up becoming. Oh crap, I gotta beat this light…..So that is kind of what….sorry you guys see how good of a driver I am. I always get messages after this, “Russell, you shouldn’t be driving while you’re talking.” I’m like, I got my hands. I’m good.
Anyway, so that’s the exciting thing, as we’re kind of building this out. As I’ve kind of perfected the model, proven it, we’ll use it to go from 70-80 million to 700 million, then we’ll have a good blueprint to show everyone, this is Traffic Secrets, this is the foundation behind it, which is kind of cool. Anyway, that’s kind of what’s happening over here. And it’s exciting and fun. The only place we really talk about this publicly, some of you guys are in our Fill Your Funnel course, that’s where we’re really going deep into this and kind of mapping out the strategy and this process and this plan. But we’re trying to figure it out, all internally on our side.
So as we keep getting it better, we’ll be publishing it there, until we got it all perfected and it becomes a book. But I want you guys thinking more about that. Think more about all the front end stuff that you do to get traffic into your funnels. Most of its just, you spend all this time and effort getting the funnel right and then we turn on ads and that’s it. There’s so much more that goes into it before.
Anyway, that’s kind of what’s happening here. So a couple of other exciting developments. One thing is, if you’ve been listening to the Marketing In Your Car podcast for any amount of time, or Marketing Secrets for a long time before that, I have somebody, a secret spy right now, going through the past episodes….is this the right road I’m supposed to go on? I think it is…. Categorizing all of it, we’re going to be turning this crazy podcast, we’re going to take out all the crap and the fluff, the ones that were just me rambling incoherently, and finding all the best and putting them into chronological order, not chronological, the right order, and actually making a book called Marketing Secrets.
If you can’t tell, I’m kind of obsessed recently with making books. We’ve got the Expert Secrets book, which took two years of my life, the cookbook, which was The Funnel Hacker Cookbook. If you haven’t got that, go to funnelhackerscookbook.com or funnelcookbook.com, it’s actually easier to remember, funnelcookbook.com. And in fact right now, I think it’s $10 plus shipping or something like that, to get a 350 page, spiral bound cookbook, which is insane.
But I’m really into the whole book thing. I think books create legacy more than anything else. And at this point in my career it feels like that’s what I’m getting drawn to, stuff that’s legacy as opposed to promotional stuff. So you may see a couple more books coming out in the next few years, and hopefully they turn out good. I’ve tried to write two really good books, I think the first two turned out good, I’m proud of them. So hopefully you guys will like the other ones.
But this is one will be a fun book that will be kind of like an ongoing series called Marketing Secrets, where every three years I can publish a new book, it’s like okay here are the next 400 marketing secrets that came out of me driving in my car back and forth. Here’s idea after idea after idea.
You know the first two books, Dotcom Secrets and Expert Secrets have been very much process based. So it’s like, you have to go through step one, step two, step three, step four, kind of like that. Where Marketing Secrets the goal would be more like, flip it open and just grab it like, “What’s secret 27? Oh cool, urgency and Scarcity. I could use that here. Here is marketing secret 292…” Anyway, that’s kind of the game plan with that book, so it’ll be fun. So that will probably be the next book and then I got this other cool….so many cool things.
So anyway, that’s all I got you guys. I’m almost at the dentist. So I’m going to go hang out with him. Appreciate you all for listening, subscribing. If you’re not subscribed yet go to iTunes and subscribe. I think last time I checked we’re number 3 or 4 top business podcast in the world, so thank you for that, hopefully we can keep it ranked up high. But yeah, come listen, subscribe and hang out with us and we’ll keep giving you the goods. Alright guys, appreciate you all, talk to you soon. Bye.
Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 2 of 2)
On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the second half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk’s presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers:
So listen to Gary’s insightful answers to these questions and many others as we finish up part 02 of this special set of episodes.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson again. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope that yesterday you had a good time hanging out with Gary Vee. So just to put this into perspective, his speaker fees to come to something like this is about 100 grand. And that’s about what I had to spend to get him to Boise to hang out and get his presentation, and you guys had a chance to hear it here for free.
So what does that mean? Number one it means that this podcast is awesome. Do you agree? If you guys agree and concur then I ask you just one little favor, tell other people about it. If you’ve got an email list, tell them. You post on Facebook, let people know. I spent $100 grand to give you these two podcasts and you’re getting them for free because I love you and I care about you and want you to be successful.
So I hope you get something good out of it. Again, every time I hear Gary speak I get more pumped up and motivated and excited. I don’t know if he ever gives the tangibles, like here’s the steps to do, but that’s my role. That’s what I do for you guys. I will give you the tangible, here’s the process, and Gary will get you pumped up. So I hope that’s okay. With that said, we’re going to jump into to part 02 of his presentation. Once again we have edited out as much profanity as possible to make this PG, maybe PG13 so that my podcast will stay clean for all the kids and the people like me who like to listen to clean things. So I hope that’s alright. Anyway, that’s it you guys. Enjoy part 02 of the Gary Vee Show.
Audience member: Gary I want to talk about influence for marketing. YouTubers, bloggers, instagrammers, a lot of people are talking about Facebook ads, Instagram ads, Snapchat ads, ROI. We can measure ROI with those.
Gary: You can measure with influencers too.
Audience member: You can, but it takes a lot longer.
Gary: No it doesn’t.
Audience member: How so?
Gary: You’ve got to make the creative be a sales creative rather than a brand creative. You can’t measure the ROI of Facebook either when you do it the way I do it, because I’m pumping it for brand. Not trying to sell you [expletive]. I could measure it if I’m trying to sell you a $49 course.
Josh, people are confused between branding and selling. Make [expletive] phenomenal and [expletive] influencers go for the sale in the creative if they chose to. And you can afford them. Logan Paul sold a [expletive]load of Dunkin Donuts [expletive] gift cards. Sales are super [expletive] measureable Josh.
Audience member: So would you focus, like let’s pretend you’re not Gary Vaynerchuk, let’s take you out of the equation. You are a 41 year old nobody, you have say a million dollars of investors behind you…..You’re a 41 year old nobody, you’re getting into the game. Would you focus on growing your personal brand or would you focus on leveraging other people’s personal brands that are already a thing? Would you ride the backs of using the people you’re building, that you’re investing in.
Gary: Sure. Yeah. What are you asking? I’ll give you the answer. Are you trying to build your personal brand?
Audience member: I am trying to build my personal brand. But I want to build my personal brand in a different niche than the influencers that I want to invest in.
Gary: understood. I think that as long, understand this, just because they may be in a different niche, they have so much awareness that the people that watch them may be into other things. Got it? So if it’s a good deal on awareness, you might be able to convert and then your product has to be good. Do you know what I mean? That’s the math you’re looking at. You don’t have to use the targeted nature of the ads if the influencers a better deal, even though you might lose 85% of the audience because that’s not why they’re watching them. But they’re still going to get 15% of opportunity and then the whole [expletive] kit and caboodle is, are you good enough?
Audience member: Alright, one last question. I’m a diehard patriots fan, if Tom Brady makes it to the Superbowl this year, will you go to the Superbowl with me, on me?
Gary: No. And not only that, I’ve been to the last 6 Superbowls, they’ve been there two or three times, I’m now with Vayner Sports and Steve Rostio and the Dolphins are my business partners and I go and the owners dinner is all fun. The last two superbowls, two of the last three Superbowls I left the city Sunday morning. I have not watched the Patriots play a down of a Superbowl game in the last 4 Superbowls that they’ve played in. Because I refuse, everybody’s like, “The greatest comeback in a superbowl.” I’m good, I have no [expletive] idea what you guys are talking about. I didn’t see [expletive].
Audience member: Well, you like winners and I’d like to invite you to the winning team any time you’d like to come.
Gary: Josh, you’re confused my friend. I’m a winner, you route for winners, dick.
Audience member: That’s very true.
Gary: Be careful. By the way you just witnessed my favorite move. Knicks/Heat game, 7 years ago, dude walks by, beer sports muscles. Guys, I get up and say, “You [expletive] suck. Sit the [expletive] down.” I mean it, I get weird. He looks at me and goes, “Yeah we suck. Look at the scoreboard [expletive]hole.” I go, “Not them, you [expletive]hole. You suck.” By the way, the darkest version of what you just saw, and Josh knows I love him. But the darkest version, I go to Foxborough for every game, we always get [expletive] on, around the 3rd , 4th quarter when I’m really getting [expletive] on, because I bring my Jets jersey, I’m running in there proper. Somewhere around the 4th quarter when I’m getting [expletive] on, I change the conversation. I’m like, “Look Zan, I’m super pumped that your entire self esteem is wrapped into your football team because you work at pizza hut. So [expletive] you. My life’s better than yours. Maybe your football team is better than mine, but I’m better than you, Zan.”
Audience member: Going back a little bit, you talked about intuition, your belief in your intuition. I’m a 2 day idea guy. I get an idea and then after 2 days I’m like, “That was a crappy idea.”
Gary: You’re probably a 7, right Nicole? Like he bothers the [expletive] out of you right? He’s like, “What about a drone ice cream company?” Go ahead.
Audience member: That’s a good idea. So how so you develop that intuition? How do you support and strengthen your belief in your own intuition to move forward?
Gary: By acting on some of them. The biggest problem is, especially when you have people around you, you want to be right. It’s much better than getting made fun of for being wrong consistently. But by [expletive], I try to do stuff every…..everyone’s like, “You’re always in it doing…” Just try and [expletive]. No one talks about the stuff that I’m doing that….guys nobody remembers the part where Michael Jordan couldn’t get to the finals because the Pistons were beating them every single time. You know what I mean?
Guys let me really unleash doing more [expletive]. Nobody remembers the losses, as long as you have a win. You know, listen, some of you know my stuff and I’m started to like figure out my own stuff. It comes down to six people. Your mom, your dad, your siblings, your loved ones. You’re doing so much [expletive] based on their points of view on stuff, you can’t even imagine. You can unwind that, you’re off to the races.
It scares me how much I value my wife and parents opinion and how much I don’t at all. And in that balance I win. On a macro I value them. But on a micro, my decisions, not at all. You just gotta do one or two of them. If you 1 for 7, it’s a lot better than going 0 for 0.
Audience member: Thank you. Last question, would you sign my book?
Gary: Hi, let’s do it while I’m signing. What’s your question, Katie?
Audience member: Hi Gary, I’m Katie Richardson, and I was first introduced into you as I was trying to go to bed at night and my husband’s got his phone on and I’m hearing this guy make a rant in a cab, throwing f-bombs every other word. I’m like, “What the heck is this?” And turns out, you speak tons of truth, so you have won over this mother of 4 who is a business owner and I love it. So that’s part of what my question to you is, you own who you are and I love that. And that’s what people are so attracted to, right? You’re up there being Gary, at what point….you talked about how you worked with your dad and it was a 3 million dollar company and you took it to 10 million after he left, at what point did you give yourself permission to be you and then realize….tell us that story where you were like, “Wow, this is working, people are connecting with me and my way of being.” What was that like when you were like this is working, I’m going to keep doing this.
Gary: You know, it’s funny. Thank you first of all, there’s a lot of things there. Number one it is 100% because of nature/nurture. Being an immigrant and always having a chip on your shoulder, you’re always an outcast to begin with on some level. And I was a Russian immigrant, which was our major enemy when I was a kid, so I had some weird [expletive] going on that I don’t tell a whole lot because it’s not as relevant these days. But there’s a lot of parallels to whoever the bad guys are now, I was the bad guy, it was kind of weird for a little while.
Number two, my mom. My mom, I remember walking sophomore year in high school….no, freshman year in high school. I’m 4’11” my freshman year of high school, I spurted in sophomore year. I have the worst [expletive] mullet you’ve ever seen in your life. I’ve got a backpack that I’m rolling with that’s bigger than me. And I’m walking down the hall, and I go… I remember this vividly, I’m like, wait a minute. I’m not the best looking, awesomest dude in the world? My mom had me so brainwashed…I’m being serious….on straight positivity, that that never went away.
If I open a door for a woman, my mom was super smart. I’m doing the same thing. If I opened the door, this is a true story Katie, I opened the door for a woman when I was 9 at McDonalds. That’s the story. I went to McDonalds, a woman was coming and I held the door open for her. My mom reacted as if I’d won the [expletive] Nobel Peace Prize. And she did that about all the [expletive] that matters, which makes me who I am today.
Fourth grade I got an F on a science test, I needed to get it signed because that’s how they used to, I don’t know if they still do that [expletive]. I flushed it down the toilet because my dad hadn’t gotten to me yet. And then, I was still a kid so my conscious was still around. So I just couldn’t sleep and I told my mom. And basically three weeks later I was sitting in social studies fourth grade and said, “[expletive] this, I’m out.” And from that day on I decided to fail every class, work on my business skills and become whoever I’m going to be.
Audience member: I love it. Thank you. Sorry, I just had to quick ask, I make amazing baby products and I don’t know if you’re still having babies or not, but if you need the awesomest baby gift for a friend, come to me. My company’s call Pudge, like baby pudge.
Gary: Send me an email to Gary@vaynermedia, in the title write our entire story, “I was the woman with four kids and the husband in the bed and you won me over. And the pudge and this, all of it”. And then we’ll interact.
Audience member: I’ll make you look amazing as a gift giver.
Gary: Thank you.
Audience member: So I was going to say this is my second time seeing you, and it’s funny how different energy with different audiences. The first time I went, you were like, you even told the audience, “I am not excited to be here. I looked at your stuff, it sucks.” And the lady had been talking about coaching the whole time and then you’re like, “Don’t do it, just do stuff.” Anyway, it was awesome. It was in Provo. Just a couple of months ago in Provo. It was funny.
But anyway, quick side question, do you sense different energy in different audiences? Because it’s like, it’s the same….
Gary: 100% I have my religions and my beliefs and then I have me craft. So I’m doing everything state of the art. So I have my theses and then I have my work. I was in Seattle yesterday, spent 9 hours. Understand the voice space, my craft. So I have my thesis’ Bret, I have my craft and the reason I’m doing well in speaking is I take my thesis’ and I take my craft, which sometimes has some nuances that are valuable, usually always ahead of the market. Then I reverse engineer the actual audience. I reverse engineer the audience. I give a lot of thought and speak to the people that organize. Who are you? Where are you in your funnel of life? And what can I bring to the most general and how quick can I get to Q&A, so that whatever I miss in the general we can get to in the details.
Audience member: I totally agree, because it’s just a different energy, I feel this time versus last time. But my big question is, when you think of Lavar Ball or Kim Kardashian, or even Donald Trump for that matter, what are your thoughts on them and is that the kind of fame you want? You talked about fame being the biggest arbitrage, what are your thoughts on those kinds of people?
Gary: So there’s a really interesting thing that I believe in, which is until you know somebody, you don’t know somebody. So look, I mean getting political never works, but Trump’s got his shtick and he won on my thesis for the last ten years. Kim Kardashian literally is, we are all living in reality TV. People [expletive] on reality tv in Hollywood, then they [expletive] on influencers, they’re all going to pay because if you’re not abiding to what the consumer wants, you will always lose.
It doesn’t matter what you want on your ivory tower, it matters what the world is consuming. But I don’t, to be very, very, very frank, I don’t think about it a whole lot. I know why they’re winning. They were native….DJ Callin is a unbelievably important case study in the last ten years and the next ten years. His personality was native to a platform at the right time in the right moment and he’s disproportionally changed his career on that back. Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump navigated reality TV when reality TV was what social media has been for the last four years.
Someone here is going to get inspired and make a voice application for their business that will be that, when voice is here in two years, for the next six years. From 2020-2026. It’s literally the same game over and over, Bret. So I want, what I want…..listen, fame and exposure, it doesn’t change you, it exposes who you are. So I don’t know how you personally judge those three and everybody here judges those three differently. I just want to be known for what I am and who I am and how I roll.
Audience member: Appreciate that, thank you.
Gary: You got it.
Audience member: Hi Gary, I’m here with my amazing husband Josh, who is like my backbone and amazing business partner. I’m a little googly talking to you, because I remember meeting Justin Timberlake when I was 14, but you’re like my 32 year old Backstreet Boy.
Gary: He was in NSYNC.
Audience member: yeah, I loved them all, but I love you more. For the past 7 years you’ve given me the ability to be really authentic. I’m in a niche where it’s very club promoting. It’s network marketing. So I basically for the last 7 years have sold my soul to direct selling companies and made a lot of money and have built an incredible following of network marketers and direct sellers and now that I’ve built a great team that’s passive and I served them and I love them, but I really want to branch out into more main stream impact. Primarily female entrepreneurs. And I want to know what’s your recommendation for someone like me who’s had this huge niche and they all expect me to be the prospector, the closer, the lead generator, the team builder. Now to say, alright I’m someone new, transition…
Gary: If we had coffee, I’m going to give you the 90% answer because there’s 10% that’s too personal and I don’t want to do it here. I have to figure out how main stream you want to be.
Audience member: I’ll buy you coffee.
Gary: I’m sure. I don’t know how main stream you want to be. If you want to be main stream, like the cover of Forbes. Like all the way main stream, you’ll have to give up network marketing completely.
Audience member: and I have no problem with whatever God has for me, I just would know….
Gary: it’s a stunningly binary answer, Rach. If you want to go main stream, you have to give it up.
Audience member: Because of the stigma?
Gary: And the math around how many people make money in it and how many don’t.
Audience member: Correct. And my last question is, is there any trends that you see, or platforms or any advice that you see with women entrepreneurs, primarily my age 30’s, 40’s?
Gary: So the thing, it’s funny, Katie said the most important part. I’ve become unbelievably fascinated and empathetic in the difference between men and women. I’m super fascinated by it, from a business standpoint, that’s my lens to the world. It’s harder to be 100% yourself when you’re a woman. I genuinely believe that because men are dick-faces.
The answer to your question is to be 100% radically transparently you. I’m also massively empathetic how that’s difficult for everybody, especially attractive women.
Audience member: So four years ago I was couch serving and living out of my car and I sat in a room with Gary and 13 other kids and Gary told us that this app was going to change our lives forever. And it did, and Gary was such a positive change on my life. Now, unfortunately they deleted the app. What do I do?
Actually I just wanted to make that joke. The real question, when you run into your failures and you feel like you’re at your rock bottom, what’s your next move? Because I’m always trying to reinvent myself and I’ll do things that work and I’ll do things that don’t work.
Gary: You and some of your friends there at the table, you guys have a big advantage, and all of you have gone a little bit different with that transition of buying and what happened on Snapchat and Instagram and things of that nature. But you have something very special. You have talent. Second of all, you’ve once tasted what it’s like to buy beach front property in Malibu.
Audience member: No, I live in an apartment. But yeah, that’d be nice.
Gary: You know what I mean. AKA, you knew what it meant to your career by being one of the first 40 people that mattered on a platform that became huge. Instead of trying what you and others …….I wish you could see the goose bumps I have right now. It happened to me. I won twitter. And then I wasn’t at the top of stuff, like I was in the 2006,07, and 08 world. Why do you think the vine thing…and this is where I’m going with this, basically if you chose to, it’s going to happen again. And let me explain why.
The reason I got you guys all together and I flew to LA and met with others of you, the reason I did that is it was black and white. I’m like, I’ve [expletive] seen this show before.
Audience member: You said that, you actually said that. You were saying this is the new YouTube.
Gary: It was so black and white. And obviously it took different tacks and the ones that kind of tripled down on Instagram had what happened. But instead of trying to catch up to what’s now, I give you the recommendation that I took myself, because I tend to only give advice that I’ve actually done, because it just feels better. You’ve got to either hibernate, make due, grind through and spend all your time looking for that next one. You should be downloading a top 100 app in the apple store that is social or consumer facing every day of your life. Creating an account and producing the first piece of content.
Audience member: okay, I’m going to do that. Thanks Gary.
Audience member: Hello, 4’11” freshman here. Really quick question, maybe a little personal. You know we have this engine, all of us here in this room, we have this engine we have a hard time shutting off. It’s what makes us successful. How do you balance work and family? How do you do it?
Gary: By first and foremost not adhering to the current state of political correctness that everyone here has deployed on me. Most of all. And second, extremism. I almost took the whole entire month of August off. I go all in. When I’m in…Monday through Friday I do not see my kids, pretty much at all. 39 weeks of the 52 weeks in the year, just what it is. And then on weekends and 7 weeks, 8 weeks of vacation a year, I’m all in the other way. That’s how I do it. For me. But that is only uniquely going to work if me and my partner in crime are aligned in that strategy. Audit that strategy every day. By the way, I don’t even want to do it anymore as now they’re 8 and 5 and not 5 and 2. They’re just more interesting to be around, you know.
For example, I guarantee you in 24 more months, this exact trip, they’re here and we go and see the Grand Canyon or something, I’m so sad that so many people do certain things in parenting because that’s what the other parents think they should be doing. I don’t know, I just want to make a very important statement that I implore every parent in this room understands. Everything that is right in parenting right now by the common standards, will not be in 20 years. You’re going to be judged one way or the other.
Audience member: Hey, fellow 42 year old, I think your mom and my mom should hang out bro. Same mom’s. Just want to let you know, validation on the sound, totally true because I totally take a shower with you every morning. Dude I just hit play on the little shower thing, listen to your audio, gets me going. So thank you.
Gary: That visual is [expletive] awesome.
Audience member: I didn’t even think about you seeing the visual, but now that I think about it, it could have gone a different way. So I got a two part question for you. One is on cultures, our company is growing and we’re doing pretty well and you’ve been to 9 figures and that’s where we want to go, right. So my first question is from a culture standpoint, when you grow rapidly, how do you imbed the culture to make sure that it grows with the right people. So we’ve had values, manifestos….
Gary: Ready? How do you get muscles by doing pushups?
Audience member: You do it consistently, everyday.
Gary: I spend an ungodly amount of my time on HR. Now, I have 800 employees, the biggest thing I’m working on for 2018…. I have an open door policy, which is not working for me. It’s real open door. The big thing for my 2 admins and assistants is when an employee asks, they get booked. Whoever, first day, nine years, done. Not working. They think I’m fancy and Gary V. They’re scared, nobody wants to really talk to their CEO. So next year I am going to mandate that I see every one of my employees every six months for 15 minutes, which is going to eat up big amounts of time. Culture is the only thing you trade on.
Audience member: So you’re going to see all 800 employees 15 minutes?
Gary: Yes, twice a year. The math is daunting.
Audience member: When I do the one on one time, it always works, but I’m just thinking now for scale standpoint. How the heck do I do that?
Gary: Scaling the unscalable is how you build long term wealth.
Audience member: [expletive] dude, that’s a good one.
Gary: Thanks bro. I didn’t get up here for my looks.
Audience member: Now we know why you get paid to stand up there. Second question was, as you grow obviously you have things, you’ve got haters I’m sure. People who don’t like you or whatever. So I always focus on the mission and the vision and the people that we’re helping, but when you get certain people, it’s still effects me when I get that stuff. So how do you overcome that so you can keep growing?
Audience member: For them?
Audience member: And just their life circumstances?
Gary: Sure. If a human being can generate hate, they’re not in a good place.
Audience member: So what do you do mentally in mindset to just keep going?
Gary: I deploy gratitude that I’m not them. Thanks man.
Audience member: So I started mine as well, doing…..and now I do it on Instagram and I grew a large following on there. And it’s still growing a lot, but I want to be ahead, as you say, and I know I have a lot of meetings about VR and creating content with NVR.
Gary: I’m a very anti-consumer VR guy in the timing that I like. So everything for me is 24-36 months. I just don’t know how many people are consuming at the scale that you would be giving up opportunity costs in other places in 36 months of VR.
Until I see even one person consistently consuming VR, an hour a week. If I can find one human who’s not a [expletive] really weird nerd, who spends one hour…So I think the reason you’re feeling that is you’re in the LA bubble, everybody is pumping a ton of money from venture capital into VR, and it’s literally….the thing you should study is what happened to the web in 99, 2000, you’ve probably seen it. Pets.com, all these companies worth a trillion, that’s how I feel about VR. It’s coming, Amazon’s coming, Ebay’s coming, but I think for you and knowing the arbitrage that you can trade on, I don’t believe….if I was talking to you every week, I’d be like, that’s not a good place to be spending your energy. That’s my intuition.
I do think voice is incredible. And then I think for you specifically, because I know enough from afar…we don’t know each other super well, but I know a lot from afar, you might want to think about what you want to put that energy into, what bucket. That’s why it’s good that you’re here. What I do think these guys do, that sales and….or if it’s a brand or an event, you’re going to be able to push that energy towards something, you need to take a step back and get thoughtful with yourself. What other interests you have, that wouldn’t come natural as the first thing you would think of. Like the 5 or 6 things you think of health and wellness and lifestyle.
It’s interesting, it’s probably something subtle, putting your energy into building in that world if you want to really double down on entrepreneurship is a good idea.
Speaker: Alright guys, we have only time for 3 more questions. We’ll go Miles over there, and then we have two here and that’ll be it.
Gary: Charles get up there, we’ll do four. But you have to stand up. I saw your face.
Audience member: Hey Gary, I’m a big fan of mental models and ways to kind of overcome challenges. And I like understanding other people’s processes. So my question to you is, what is your number one business challenge right now? And what is your process to come up with that solution?
Gary: I’m crippled by opportunity, is my number one business problem and it’s similar to what I gave over there. I’m just attacking it with blind intuition. Every time me and my team try to attack from a quant standpoint, it’s too foreign, it’s moving too fast on us, and so that’s it man. Crippled by opportunity, which is a blessing and a [expletive] half, as you can imagine. But it’s the truth. You know, it’s the truth.
Like do I say yes to a second season of Planet of the Apps? The Knicks are for sale, it’s running through my mind. There’s a lot going on. I have a lot going on.
Audience member: Right, but other than the intuition, I gotta imagine that there’s a bottleneck in terms of leverage.
Gary: Intuition is the salve for the bottleneck which is making decisions and deploying my energies against those decisions, while leaving everything else on the side. I decided a year ago, I was raising a 150 million dollar fund, I gave all t he money back. It was the biggest financial loss of my career because I’d hired the staff and I was going to pay the staff with the 2% if you know venture, of the overall fund that I was going to raise 150 million dollars on. That’s a lot of money, 2%. I had a pretty expensive staff.
I was going through the process and I’d raised about 80 million dollars and one night I’m flying home and I’m like, I don’t believe in this. I don’t want to spend this 150 million dollars in startups. I think there’s too much [expletive] faith in the market. I don’t know where to deploy it. I think I’m going to lose it. And I gave it all back. That’s intuition, thought process, understanding. So I’m just doing that every day.
Audience member: Big fan, but my girlfriend is an even bigger fan and I basically couldn’t live down the shame of not asking you a question. So I’m a social media manager and I would just love to hear about what you think is the best campaign you’ve ever run and why you qualify it that way?
Gary: Sour patch kids candy. We made it a cultural phenomenon because we took all the money from television commercials, which go figure, 12-15 year olds don’t watch and we gave it to all those people that sit at that table. Or the ones that look like them. In four and half years we took sour patch kids marketing budget and put it into Snapchat and Instagram when nobody was thinking that way and if anybody has a 9 to 17 year old in their life, they eat sour patch kids.
And Sabrina, to answer your question, the reason I qualify it that way. There’s been campaign’s that we’ve done that have made more money, made more likes or awareness or more views. He stands up here and he goes, thanks to everybody we have 100,000 views, I already know him enough to know….yeah, and what’s happening with those views. A lot of people on social media, they plan vanity metrics, not sales.
The sour patch kids is the answer because we have had campaigns get more views, this Budweiser Derek Jeter and Harry…the stuff we’re doing for Budweiser is insane. We’ve really crushed sales, we’re changing a tough brand in the US, but sour patch kids became the fastest growing candy in 20 years.
Audience member: I’m a course creator and I also help entrepreneurs teach better. So their students get better results. I’m a little bit at a crossroads. I heard you talking about being in a space that’s a little over crowded. So course creation is a little that, right. I see though, the chance to make better teachers, to make their products better. That’s one thing, and I think I could do really well there. But I’m also around the opportunity of, I’m a past tenure track professor and I left academia. As I was leaving fellow professors were like, “You figured it out. Go.” I also feel a calling to help professors kind of do what I do.
Gary: You should definitely do that.
Audience member: That scares the [expletive] out of me. But this is easier. Helping entrepreneurs is so easy.
Gary: No [expletive] Linds. But this is back to that….you have to decide whether you…by the way, I have a crazy thing to tell you based on something I’ve been looking at.
Audience member: Please tell me.
Gary: The professors are about to become easier. Because they’re all about to go out of business.
Audience member: It’s a sinking ship and the ones who know it…
Gary: This is the thing I wrote about in Crush it. I said, all these newspapers and magazines are in deep [expletive]. It’s that the writers are going to be better, not worse, they think they’re going to…..these professors are about to get the money they deserve. Eat [expletive] for 36 months, leave money on the table that was easy from the entrepreneurs that are never going to make it, and go help the professors.
Audience member: What’s my first move?
Gary: you’re first move is to build the business structure. What’s the business that you want to do? Do you want to be Ted Conferences? Do you want to be a course? Do you want to teach one on one? Do you want to sell a product? I mean, you need to decide what you are.
Audience member: I want to help them plan an exit strategy and to realize that there’s actually money. That there’s a lot of professors that could probably make courses really good.
Gary: That’s what you should do. So charge them money for your knowledge if that’s what you want to do. And you know you can put that in 7 different buckets. I’m telling you right now, you’re walking right into what is going to be an enormously large space, and the fact that you were one of them, do you know how much I kill with small businesses? Not because it’s funny and ha ha. It’s because I was one of them.
Audience member: Hey Gary, I’m Kaelin. This is crazy to literally be face to face with you right now, so thank you so much for answering my question. One of the reasons that I love you so much and love following you so much is I really resonate with the whole chip on the shoulder thing. That’s what drives everything that I do. I grew up super poor, like standing here with all these people right now is just insanely surreal.
Gary: And you want to kill them, right?
Audience member: I don’t want to kill them. I want to [expletive] work with all of you. Hit me up, please. But the thing that’s happened is I feel like an entrepreneur on accident, honestly. And the thing that I love to do is the business that I do that’s making me money. But lately I’ve started being way more vulnerable about the whole chip on the shoulder thing and telling my story. And that’s resonating with a lot of people, but that is [expletive] hard. I hate doing that. I’m very introverted; I don’t like being out there that much. But that’s what seems to be making the biggest impact.
Gary: I have great news, it’s binary. Either you do more of it and get used to it and like everything in life, once you get used to it, it just becomes your norm and you didn’t realize. You may never be the most extraverted, but you just….everybody here could be a better singer, dancer, or basketball player. They may not become Lebron, but if you do it every day, you get better. You keep putting yourself out there every day, you’ll get better.
So you can either choose to do that, or you could say, “I don’t like it. I’ll leave the money on the table because I love the privacy and the private life and not having to engage.” And you do that. It’s your choice. You’re in charge.
Audience member: Are you an advocate for doing what’s harder, though? If it’s going to make an impact?
Gary: I’m an advocate on doing what you want to do. Not because I said so, or your friend said so. I’m advocate of you doing what you want to be doing. But I always encourage to taste more, because it works. Do you know how many people here hate oysters but have never had one? I think about that [expletive] every day. That’s how I think about business. You’ve made a judgment on something, yet, you’ve never done it. You know what I’m going to say. You’ve consumed it. I already know you’re going to do more of it, because you’ve already done the hardest part, which is you’ve done it. You’re now a foregone conclusion to me KP. You’re just going to keep doing it.
Audience member: I love that you just called me that. Thank you.
Gary: That’s what you’re going to do. You’re just looking for me to give you a little more juice to do it a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more, which is amazing and I’m thrilled to do it. Because it’s [expletive] you. Here you go. Go.
Audience member: just really quickly, is there anything that is hard for you? Your mindset, the way that you think about things, you’re like, “I am confident, I can do this.” But is it hard to get up in the morning sometimes? Is anything hard at all.
Gary: Spelling is [expletive] impossible. I can’t read for [expletive]. If I was reading from a teleprompter right now, I would crumble and be out of here. Can’t read for [expletive]. You know fencing probably is hard. I’m really way below average in swimming. Poor swimmer, always think [expletive] I’ll be super pissed if that’s how….if I die because we get [expletive] up, somebody hits a….and I have to swim further than everybody. Yeah, there’s [expletive]. You know why you asked that question?
Audience member: Validation?
Gary: No why you asked me of that question. Validation the first part, the second part. You’re asking me that, as somebody who knows a lot about me, because I don’t spend any time on it. We all suck at [expletive]. I don’t care how you judge mine. You’ve got [expletive] too. So because I don’t care about that, the only reason people spend time on their weaknesses is because everyone else’s opinion on it that they’re trying to avoid. I don’t care about your opinion about my weakness because I know you’ve got them too. So let’s just move on.
Audience member: thank you so much. Can I get a photo with you when you’re done?
Audience member: Hey Gary, I swim a lot. So if you ever need to get certified, let me know. I’m 37, so I’m not where you are age wise, but I’ve been lucky a few times in life and I’ve done well and done not so well and everything, and I have done well. I guess my question is, it’s always the concept of the encore, you know when my one company, I’ve had 8 digit companies before and now I’m launching another one. And I guess it’s like, how do you get into it, make bets on it, but feel accomplished if you don’t outdo your last time?
Gary: Because I do not even remotely think that the financial part is the way I score it. You know what I mean. That’s really simple. Outdoing the last one is, the way you’re, I’m listening to your words. The way you’re positioning it like, if you’re putting pressure on, I need a 9er, then you’re probably going to….you know what’s funny about positioning a 9er when you’ve had an 8er? It’s hard to get going.
Audience member: That’s probably the challenge.
Gary: I know exactly what’s going on with you Charles. That’s why I’m asking you, are you doing the ambition of a 9 or 10 because you see the white space and you’re going to strike like a [expletive] cobra? Or is it because you really just want to [expletive] do it? So let me give you an example what I’ve been doing for the last 7 years. I don’t love it. Client services. Having a 32 year old brand manager from the University of Chicago telling me what she should do with Captain Crunch when she can’t sell [expletive].
Audience member: I’m actually from the U of C, so…
Gary: Not fun for me, I know why I’m doing it. I decided at 35, 36 that I was going to spend 10 years of my prime as a business person building a death star of communication by eating [expletive] and building a very big business. And then I was going to point that death star, the Vayner X machine against the Crohns and Colitis foundation, because my brother has it and I want to cure it. Some business that somebody comes along but didn’t know how to run it, so I bought it for a million and I can get it to a hundred.
But I realized 6, 7 years ago, [expletive] I now know who I am, let me build the biggest infrastructure in the world around it and then whether it’s to help hurricane victims, or sell sneakers, I’m going to be able to point this [expletive] thing. So for me, I don’t look at me ebada, I don’t care how much we’re growing. I’ve made a 20 year decision that I’m in the process of and I’m going execute against that. And the numbers and dollars are just not the way I score.
If you’ve been lucky enough to have the success you’ve had and you’re this young, I would take a big step back and try to figure out, what is the most fun or the most macro thesis you can come up with.
Audience member: Great, thanks.
Gary: Guys, thank you for having me, this was fun. Thank you.
Listen in on live Q&A from Gary Vaynerchuk (Part 1 of 2)
On this special episode of Marketing Secrets Podcast you will get to hear the first half of the Q&A section of Gary Vaynerchuk’s presentation at the viral video launch event. Here are some of the questions Gary answers:
So listen to this first half of Gary’s Q&A and tune in for the second half tomorrow.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to Marketing Secrets. For the next two episodes I’ve got some exciting things for you. As you know we just got done with our viral video launch event, which turned out amazing. And our keynote speaker was Gary Vaynerchuk, and in his contract he said we are not allowed to stream nor share his presentation, but then he did the presentation and messaged me after and said, “That was probably one of the best presentations I’ve ever given.” I was like, “Sweet man, can I promote it on the podcast?” and he was like, “You know what, go for it.”
So that is what’s happening, so we actually have his presentation. The first 15-20 minutes of his presentation he kind of just rambled for a bit, but didn’t really have…. I think he was just trying to figure out what he wanted to talk about. And then he switched to Q&A for the next hour and a half. And Gary’s the kind of Q&A and it was really, really good.
So what I’m going to is, we pulled out the Q&A, so I’m going to do 45 minute episodes here for you. But for all of you, my fans and followers and people who listen to me, you know I keep my podcast nice and clean, I don’t swear or curse or anything, Gary does a lot. So I had my brother go through and bleep out all the bad words, so hopefully it will still be PG rated for all the kids at home. And that’s kind of the game plan.
So hopefully you enjoy this episode of the podcast, appreciate you all and have fun listening to Gary.
Audience member: My question is, I know you say it’s going to end all with robots killing everybody. Until then, what role do you think artificial intelligence and robots have and are going to have in the next 5 years in the marketing and digital marketing space?
Gary: Huge. Even in the 15 minutes that I’ve gotten a better taste of what these characters are up to, they’re going to love it. The math people are going to love it because machine learning and AI just do [expletive] that we shouldn’t be doing. It’s just efficiency. It’s going to have an enormous thing.
But the good news is there’s so much that we still can do. So basically how I think about ML and AI, at the pad, get me to [expletive] third and half base. And I’ll take care of the rest. And whatever AI can do for that, cool. And whatever low priced employees can do, cool. But everybody is spending way too much money to get to third and a half base and then the magic is the last part.
So that’s what AI’s going to mean for everybody here. There’s a lot of dumb [expletive] that people have assistants for or managers for, that’s nonsense. Zero value that the biggest AI companies in the world are going to get their nut off on.
Audience member: It’s really exciting to be here in this room with you and everyone here. This is awesome. I’m really…experiences that help people save time are awesome, I’m really interested in experiences that are time bending, help people lose time. The world’s most connective music festival where festival goers are connecting with each other like never before and with the artist and the artist with their fans. So in 2021, music festivals, connection, the best time of people’s lives, what do you see happening in the context of music festivals that you’re excited about and that you’re excited about creating?
Gary: If I dissect that right, a couple of things. One thing I’m super fascinated by that I would have never seen, by the way, I never spend any time predicting like voice….not predicting [expletive] that’s happening. What I think I’m good at is recognizing when it’s practically and then going pot committed right. Which means you’ll lose money for a couple of years and then get it. You don’t lose for 7 years and never get there.
The thing that’s been super fascinating to me, which I never would have thought, just [expletive] social media is making people do more [expletive] in real life. Like literally some dude is hiking right now just for the [expletive] Instagram photo. So what’s been amazing about music festivals is because everybody here now is not only themselves, but they’re the PR agent of themselves for what they’re putting out, people are going to more concerts than ever because of that whole dynamic.
I think what you’re alluding to is kind of like, what’s going to happen in society? Like in general, like mixed reality and things of that nature, you know it’s going to be funny. Technology is making music, going to music grow, and then it’s going to take it away, but I don’t think it’s as soon as 2021. But I think that right now a lot of music festivals are failing because they all have the same [expletive] acts and it’s just supply and demand.
So when you were first, 4, 5, and 6 years ago, you went and now there’s 87 micro festivals and big companies sign the same 13 artists and they’re [expletive]. So I think there’s a huge white space for the next generation of that. Like the people that the streets [expletive] with, and then I think ultimately it’s going to be interesting in general what happens when we live in a mixed reality world.
I think the big albatross, the only thing that’s going to break the internet is VR. But VR is quite a ways a way. Nobody here spends an hour on VR in a month, in real life. So we’re a long, it takes time. Behavior takes time. But eventually when we’re switching between completely virtual, like I don’t even see you guys right now, my contact lenses have me in Afghanistan. Switch it off, I’m right here. Switch it off and it’s AR and Santa Claus is sitting right there, you know, Santa. You know, that world I think is super interesting and is going to change all our businesses. Thanks man.
Audience member: Gary, you just came back from August and you said, I’m bringing YouTube Fire, new shows are coming out and you took the Ask Gary V. show to Facebook only. So what are your latest strategies and why for both YouTube and Facebook?
Gary: I think you have to make content that is native to the platform you put it out on. I’ve always thought about that, I [expletive] wrote a book called Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook five years ago on this. I wasn’t doing that. So now that the Ask Gary V. Show is on Facebook watch, and the Daily V is on YouTube when DRock, whenever the [expletive]… DRock? Now I can say, “what’s up YouTube?” Where I couldn’t do that before. And those little nuances [expletive] matter.
All the action is in those little edges, so I broke them up mainly because of Facebook video. Now that there’s watch I’m fascinated. Any of you watch a show yet on Facebook Watch? Just raise your hands, just curious. Higher. So this intrigues me. Everybody here has to watch one. Not because, I don’t watch [expletive]. I’ve watched one, the Ball Family, because I just want to see what the [expletive] they’re doing. To me this is the most interesting thing that I’m doing that the good market isn’t. You’ve gotta taste everything. If you want to win and [expletive] there’s no way you’re [expletive] in Boise Idaho if you don’t want to win right now. I mean that.
When I think about who’s here, [expletive] these people are hungry. So to me, 19 hands, which means maybe 31 because people get shy, two weeks into Facebook Watch, haven’t watched. That’s it. That’s where I play. That’s my margin. That’s why I did it. Because I wanted to make it native, I have two active shows. I needed to do something on Facebook. And because I watched Facebook……actually [expletive] I’ll tell you, it’s not fully announced yet, but we’ll see how thing goes, but because I watched Watch, and I watched it for kind of four days in a row, looked and understood what the [expletive] they were doing, so I sent them an email, pitched them a show and they bought it.
So now I’ll have, kind of anybody can put a show on Facebook, a page, a Watch page, which everybody should be doing here. I’ll have my YouTube show and now I’m going to have a produced by Facebook show that’s going to get big even more, listen man. I talk and doing and hustling and all this, I just do so much more than I talk, which is [expletive] crazy because my mouth is always running, but I’m just doing. I’m doing, doing, doing because I’m tasting, I’m tasting. I never think I’m fancy.
So many people in here, I know you, so many people here make it a little bit and get fancy and stop doing the [expletive] that go them there. That’s the minute you’re [expletive] dead.
Audience member: I have a question, there’s a guy I follow online, you might have heard of him. His name’s Gary Vaynerchuk, and he told me to push all in on whatever it is that you’re good at. So I’m making this big push as Marshall Live, I’m going to everything live. Like straight to ask me questions, I love that aspect of your brand. So the question is, if everything’s moving to voice, is Live streaming podcast going to end up being bigger than iTunes, or a recording you can come back to?
Gary: so first of all, you said something interesting that we all do. If everything is moving to voice, nothing is everything. We will always have the written word. Do you know how much virility there is through long form written Facebook and instagram posts? If you’re sitting here and you can write, write long [expletive] posts on Facebook and Istagram and watch what the [expletive] happens. We’re humans, we’ve been around a long [expletive] time bro. Marshall, written word, audio, video [expletive] locked in. Got it?
It’s not like you’re going to lose it. [expletive] If you’re great at smoke signals, get the [expletive] up there. Communication doesn’t change, the pillars of communication are set. Where we communicate changes. And then you have to be contextual, right. Some people are incredible at making a 6 second video, I keep looking at him because it’s fun to see him and I haven’t seen him in a while. Others aren’t.
I can’t put two [expletive] sentences together in my life. I have 5 New York Times bestselling books because I have a ghost writer. Because I didn’t try to become a great writer when the blogging thing happened, because I bet on my strengths. I do believe everybody here should bet on their strengths and surround themselves with their weaknesses. I think, back to an earlier question, I think AI and machine learning is going to help a lot of us in here who are creative, close the gap on a lot of our weaknesses, which is going to be really awesome.
Audience member: I think a lot of people in here, using Clickfunnels or not, have kind of come into a lot more money than they have ever been used to making. In one of your previous sentences you said, “Yeah, you only care about money and all the sudden you’re 47…” But then you didn’t finish your sentence. I was hoping to hear you elaborate on that.
Gary: Sure. I’m sure a lot of people here who have come into money. It’s not as great as advertized for a lot of people. Some people love it. They like watches and lambo’s and houses and that [expletive] rad, mazel tov. Other people don’t, and you start questioning what the [expletive], right. Because when you’ve got nothing and you’re on the come up and you’ve got numbers in your head, whether it’s a million or 5 or 3, whatever the [expletive] it is, it’s [expletive] empty when you get there for a lot of people.
So you know, I’m just trying to make sure people are being thoughtful. Much like what I just said to Marshall, life is pretty simple. People play on legacy, family, money, there’s just a couple pillars, I just think in our space right now. I know a lot of you have heard me rant on this. I do think entrepreneurship has taken a turn towards club promotion. And that’s just dangerous. It’s just dangerous for the people that are going….I don’t give a [expletive], it’s dangerous because people need to realize they need to build a business, not a perception that they’re good at business.
When the market crashes, nobody’s going to Vegas with you when you work at Bank of [expletive] America. You know, I’m just trying to get people to be more thoughtful.
Audience member: Russell and you are two……Last year I was selling websites, I was getting really frustrated that I wasn’t helping people. It felt like they weren’t growing their sales, but they had a really nice site. So you guys inspired me to start a podcast, didn’t know exactly what for, but s
Gary: You’re like, “[expletive] it, those guys are doing it. I will too.”
Audience member: More along the lines of, I was listening to a podcast in the gym, host asks the other guy, “what would you tell your 20 year old self?” and the guy answered, “I would divorce my wife earlier.” I was super pissed off, I’m married with two young kids and wanted to have a podcast from a different perspective. So a year later, thank God, two weeks ago I got to publish my interview with Russell. I’ve had Dean Graziosi …..and so my question is, number one is how do you grow even further? And number two is not just for me, but anybody starting or in progress, what should your priorities be?
Gary: So let’s see here. You know, both of those things I can’t answer because you need to decide. First of all you have to define growing for me. Is growing being a top 50 podcaster? We all get into our micro gains, and by the way I think micro gains are good. Little short goals, micro. It’s kind of good. You scratch it, it’s fun for a little bit. I think you gotta have your macro point of view. If you’re telling me the truth, like you felt the conversations were going in the wrong directions and you wanted to go a different place, well the answer to your question is just do it every day until you’re dead. That’s my plan.
My plan is hopefully it gets me to this one little funny weird thing that I want to buy a football team. But other than that, my plan is to put out [expletive] for free that is historically correct, so I can continue to live the life I’m living which is, I made the money I wanted to make a long time ago, but getting 50, 60, 70 emails, 80 emails a day of people like, “[expletive] you helped me.” That’s just intoxicating. That’s what gets me off.
And by the way, I’m not sure that, I understand why that wouldn’t be meaningful to someone else. So you just have to do what you have to do for yourself. That’s how you grow, by consistency. You’re a year in, you grow when you’re 19 years into your podcast.
Audience member: More specifically, in terms of actual numbers and taking what you’ve done and now specifically on the number aspect of it, what do you recommend in terms of taking your platform and kind of skyrocketing numbers?
Gary: Buy underpriced attention. Whether that’s buying ads on Facebook and Snapchat right now because they’re underpriced. If that’s working with influencers, because many are still underpriced. Whether that’s taking the high risk of trying to make a ten to fifty thousand version of what you just saw, they’re incredible video. Because that one video can be your Dollar Shave Club of your brand.
Saying yes to everything. If you want it, if you’re hungry you do what I did which is 4 years ago, I didn’t jump into podcasting right away. The first two years I just went on everyone’s. I could have went to sleep at 11 pm or I could have went on Lewis Howes podcast at 11pm. That was a decision. It’s just about awareness. Where are the eyeballs? Just putting your time and effort into that. Some of it’s free, some of it costs money.
Audience member: Hey Gary. My first time seeing you, you’re honesty is so beautiful and it’s so wonderful listening to you. If someone was trying to build their brand and get a podcast and get more into Facebook and all these sort of things. What kind of tips do you have for building a powerhouse team around you to help you accomplish all these things?
Gary: First there has to be, stay here, first it has to be practical. So some people in here can afford people, other people can’t. So they either have to learn how to do it themselves by spending hours looking at YouTube videos on how to or read. Or finding people, we’re an incredible era right now. There’s so many kids 14-21 that want to be creators and think it’s cool to do it for free. You just need to test and learn.
Everybody’s over thinking. Just do. I don’t know, post right now. Literally right now, as soon as you sit down. Go on [expletive] whatever platform has the most, go on all of them and be like, I’m looking for a video and audio intern and see what the [expletive] happens. Again, I always tell people, watch what I do, not what I say. I know a lot of, there’s a good amount of people here that follow me, randomly out of nowhere…. I [expletive] tweeted today, “Does anybody make customizable retail floor mats?” I needed a retail floor mat. You do? Good. Do you do them for free in exchange for some awareness?
I would ask and then try somebody. The amount of people I’ve hired when it was early in something and I didn’t know if they were good or bad, I just thought it was much smarter to just do it and then figure out if it was working. And then I’m like, oh [expletive] they sucked. I’m just not scared to waste money or time and everybody’s petrified because you worry about what other people think about you. That’s why, if you’re curious. That’s the [expletive] answer. That’s [expletive]. That’s the [expletive] answer.
Your answer is so easy. How do you build a team? Hire some [expletive] people, bro. But it’s like, you’re like, I don’t understand. People are scared to get “had” because they don’t get it. Okay, put in a [expletive] load of time to learn the craft or bring someone in and watch what they’re doing carefully instead of outsourcing it and falling asleep because you’re all [expletive] income and I got a team doing (bleep, bleep, bleep) stupid. Got it?
Audience member: Hey Gary, my name is Jay and I run the Inner Changemaker podcast and I want to ask a question that goes a little deeper in what you’re saying in terms of sound and watching what you do. We’ve noticed that you’ve launched a couple other podcasts outside of Ask Gary V.
Gary: Within my experience? Like the brown paper bags and all that [expletive]?
Audience member: The brown paper bags, kind of like the 365 daily.
Gary: the 365 is on the Lexus skill, briefing excuse me. I’ve been doing sub-branding in my podcast because I’m testing to see if there’s traction and I’ll spin the amount and create new pillars.
Audience member: Okay, so I guess my real question is, where content creators started on one platform, for example I started an interview based show, you have a Q&A show…If you kind of have that urge to branch out……
Gary: Do it within the interview show because you have an audience there. Don’t worry that you may lose a couple of people. Like right now, as I’m sure everybody has seen, for two strategic reasons, out of nowhere I’m talking a lot more than I should be about wine. I’m doing it for a reason. There is no question that there are people unfollowing me because, “Yo bro, I [expletive] came here to [expletive] get pumped up because I have no [expletive] juice. What the [expletive] are you trying to sell me actual juice?”
But I don’t give a [expletive] because I’m playing a macro game, I don’t want to lose people from it. I’m sad, I don’t want to disrespect your attention and know what you came for. But I need to test something and this is what I have. So I think it’s better off for you to try it, because one, you may hit pay dirt. One thing a lot of people don’t realize is your numbers look good, but they’re disguising the fact that you’ve plateau’d and you’re tired.
So I think you try it within it, you take the risk of a little decline for enormous upside. Because you can always go back. Instead of starting a whole new thing that’s going to take energy. Got it?
Audience member: My name is Prince, I own a company called Art of Visuals, we have over a million content creators in 122 countries. You said something earlier about everyone from 14-22 wants to be a content creator, I absolutely agree with that and have tons of those people in my community. The problem is with there being so many content creators now, how do these content creators, how do they create a business? How do they make money when they have thousands of people doing it for free etc.
Gary: By being better. Guys, it’s supply and demand. And then once there’s too much supply, you have to be the best. Just move onto the next thing. I bought every Google Adwords of every wine term for 5 cents a click the day it started. That was good. Then everybody jumped on and they started becoming $2, $3, and $4 words and it became different. I had to be better, I had to be more crafty.
Then what I started doing, was the day the wine spectator would come out with good scores, we would buy that exact wine, that exact vintage, that became our new albatross for a year or two before everybody caught up. When a market is mature you’ve got to better.
Audience member: Do you think it’s good enough just to be a content creator, or do you think these content creators need to also have products and other things that they’re pushing as well?
Gary: If you’re [expletive] Steven Spielberg, you probably could end up just being a content creator. But if you’re like Sal, you’ve got to consider other revenue streams. It’s just very basic business. Supply and demand, Prince. 4 years ago there were people that landgrabbed, they were good and they were first. It’s just real estate. If you were the people that bought Malibu beachfront property first, you won. You won, you made money. But there was a reason you were the first. It wasn’t [expletive] Malibu yet, Prince. Now people who buy Malibu beachfront properties, they’re just better.
So all those kids, that they’re going to aspire to be the next this, they’ve got a rude awakening. To be the next this, you’ve got to be 5 times better. It’s evolution. When people debate these athletes versus other, these athletes would destroy every athlete from every other generations. Because they work out 24/7 now. They have data now. It hurts my feelings too that my childhood…..they would get [expletive] destroyed. Lebron would step on people’s heads in the 80’s. People don’t get it. It’s [expletive] evolution.
Audience member: I don’t really have an ask for you. I’ve watched your stuff a ton, I just want to say thank you for giving me the permission to pursue my passion and now do what I love everyday and spend time with my family and make things. I’d be remiss if I didn’t say thank you, because I don’t know if I’ll ever see you. If you ever want to play bubble hockey, I’ll destroy you. I know that say that you…..
Gary: Are you filming this? Where do you live….First of all
Audience member: I live here. There’s a spot right down the street I can take you to play. I’m a winner in Boise, Idaho Gary.
Gary: That’s going to happen now. It’s so crazy. You’re funny, you’re smart, you know me. You know that now I’m getting….now I’m blacked out and want to destroy your face. But the only, what’s more interesting though, your [expletive] whalers hat is [expletive] me up because I’m like, man he’s got a Hartford Whalers hat, this team hasn’t been in the league for 20 [expletive] years, he probably is awesome at bubble hockey.
I’m going to do something for real, based on what you just said. I want you to come to Vayner media for a day, I’ll pay for your flight and hotel and during that day we’ll play bubble hockey and we’ll see what’s up.
Audience member: Hello Gary, I first want to say thank you to both you and Russell. You two are kind of like the Jesus of marketing and branding. I come from a poor country, Dominican Republic, and if it wasn’t for you two, I wouldn’t be here. So I just wanted to say thank you.
So my question is what are you doing in other languages? Because right now, my main language is in Spanish and I see a blue ocean. Russell’s always talking about a blue ocean, and other language is ridiculous, the blue ocean that there is. Marketing, fitness, whatever it is, you name it, the ocean is blue. So I want to know what you’re doing because I’m going balls deep into Spanish.
Gary: What I’ve been doing over the last 6 months, I’ve poured an ungodly amount of money into infrastructure to transcribe all my content into a ton of languages and pay distribution in them. I’m spending an enormous…I’m going to Singapore, which is my second trip to Asia in the last 3 months. I’m going to mainland China in January, I’m going to India in February. I’m spending an enormous amount of time, and I’ll spend millions of dollars next year just on the transcription and distribution of the content that I’m natively making in America in the English language. So a solid amount.
Audience member: Okay, there is also influence marketers in other language. It’s cheap in English, in Spanish is pennies on the buck.
Gary: Again, because I just can’t. I miss him, I haven’t seen him. I remember when Jerome and I, I was like, “Jerome you need to go and [expletive] figure out who these [expletive] influencers are in Mexico because even in music right now, there’s so many.” I’m spending a lot, maybe you guys are paying attention because I love hip hop, I’m spending more time with these artists, I keep telling them that, “you need to go down to south America. There are so many artists there that are really popping, you have the leverage because the brand of America. They’re much bigger artists than you, but you’re America. So you’re automatically bigger than them.” I mean it’s very…..I totally agree.
Audience member: Gary, Caleb Maddix’s dad, I want to thank you personally for your impact in his life. Between you and Russell Brunson, seriously. I mean, coming from a dad, there’s no way I can repay you. The character that you’ve taught him, I thank you for that. I have a two part question. One, you gave him some advice last time you were with him about patience, and I hear you talk about that a lot. And I want to know as a dad, can you expound a little bit more on that. And I’ll wait til you answer that, and I have one more part about that.
Gary: you know it’s super fun for some of us in this space. We’re literally watching your son grow up. I literally just saw him like, [expletive] dude, you don’t look 14 anymore. Now he’s hanging around with all these [expletive] faces. So he’s going to get into trouble. Like patience is important because he’s got more swag now. He’s sneaker game is stronger. He’s going into that time of his life where dumb [expletive] decisions are going to be made because he’s making decisions to make short term cash because he’s trying to arbitrage it for other things in his life.
Why do I preach patience? Because it’s the only thing that keeps people away from being straight (bleep, bleep)holes.
Audience member: That’s good. I like it. So what did your dad do? You talked about….
Gary: I didn’t have my dad in my life. I luckily still have my dad in my life, but I didn’t know my dad until I started working at the liquor store. My dad left before I woke up and came home after I slept. As a matter of fact, it’s probably funny how I feel about you guys, it’s fun to watch because I didn’t have that. But what my dad did do for me, ironically, is because I have that kind of salesmanship and charisma, I was completely full of [expletive].
I would be, everything I make fun of subtly, I would be if it wasn’t for my dad. Because at 14-15 I went into that liquor store, and you walk into…it was called shoppers discount liquors back there. I was 14 years old, I looked 9. You’d walk in and be like, “Do you have this product?” and I’d be like, “Yeah we have…” Because I was already full sales kid, I’m like, “We have that product.” But I knew we made more money on this one, I was like, “But this one’s better. I have it.” It was phenomenal, I’m 14.
People are like, “you have it.” I’m like, “Yeah, it’s my dad’s store. I taste it.” I don’t think I…..talk about making [expletive] up, I don’t think I said a real thing once. So my dad took me and taught me that. My dad thinks embellishing is straight lying and he suffocated me over a three year period. That really changed the course of my life. And I think a lot of my success comes from, I have all the skill sets of that character, but between being old country and really my dad not allowing me to be that guy. So that’s what he did for me.
And I think that’s what you, as a dad, you need to just keep watching him evolve and when he goes into territories that you think are historically incorrect, not new ideas and doing new [expletive]. No, tried and true [expletive] human dynamics that win and lose. That’s how you try to guide it.
Audience member: One more if you don’t mind. I’m sure a lot of these people probably have kids as well. So your dad was a powerful business man, and you had a lot of ideas and passion at a young age. What did he do to not…how did you guys balance that? Was that decision of him making you stop selling baseball cards to come work in the liquor store, was that the right decision? Would you do that for your kids? I’m only asking out of curiosity because when I hear that I’m just very curious about it.
Gary: I get it, it’s a tricky one man. First of all, we’re an insular family. We’re an immigrant family. We didn’t know [expletive]. There was no internet. We didn’t know anything. We literally just thought when you turn 14 you go work at the store. We were merchants. You know people like that, you know that cliché story. It’s just what it was. It was my 14th birthday, it was [expletive] time.
My D’s and F’s in school weren’t helping me with any compelling reason that I could get out of it. As far as how we did it, we [expletive] fought. I fought for every inch I had and then I got lucky. What happened was, when I came from college, my dad had saved up a lot of money through these years and started building a dream house for him and my mom. And he took that year off, and he was just not around. And that year I took the business from 3 to 10 million in sales. And that was the end of the debate.
Audience member: My name is Sarah, I’m really enjoying your speech so thank you. I was wondering, in retrospect, you’ve built a brand around yourself and your name, is that what you would recommend looking forward? Or rather more of a brand around a brand?
Gary: I think you have to do both if you’re going to build it around yourself. Because what you’re alluding to is you can get pigeon holed and you can live or die by the person. I think a lot of people forget with me, I built my library first, Gary V. came later. So it’s not like I went the Caleb route per se, I didn’t come up with the game. I know how to build….I’m serious, it’s a little [expletive] up now, I don’t think I could pull it off, but I kind of want to….
Actually, you just inspired me Sarah. I’m going to build a 25 million dollar business in the next three years, that nobody knows is mine, just to remind everybody for myself, because I’m weird like that and I need it, that I build businesses. Now, let me promise everybody in this room one thing. Fame is the number one arbitrage in our society. Fame, it’s not Snapchat ads, not being the first result on Google. Fame, full brand awareness is the number one arbitrage. So I built my brand as a bus-dev machine.
Audience member: Sure. Well, I’m glad I can inspire you. Let me know if you need a goalie in your bubble hockey.
Gary: I might, he’s wearing a Whalers hat, I’m scared.
Audience member: Hi Gary, I’m Rachel, that was cool for a second and then it wasn’t. So I’m the mom of two young daughters, I’ve got a third on the way and it’s awesome. Being a parent is obviously quite challenging as an entrepreneur. You talk a lot about what you were taught through entrepreneurship through your dad’s mistakes and successes and you’ve had a lot of success as an entrepreneur.
So for your…you have two kids right? What are the three main things that you hope that they get out of life and how are you going to instill those three principles into them?
Gary: The biggest reason I’m obsessed with entrepreneurship is it’s the clearest and most obvious thing that allows you to do the following. Which is do what you want to do today. Waking up and being able to do whatever the [expletive] you want to do is incredible. So the only thing that I want for my kids through that standpoint is the ability to do what they want to do everyday.
Now what scares me about that, they’re probably going to have that no matter what because they’re going to inherit extreme wealth. So much so that I’ve been having feelings……I used to make fun of Warren Buffett and Bill Gates in my head of like, “you’re going to donate 99% of your money?” It’s funny, you talk [expletive] until you live [expletive].
Now I’m like, [expletive] I don’t want to give these kids (bleep, bleep) that. Because rich kids have a huge disadvantage because when I wanted Sega Genesis in 1989, my mom’s like, “cool, go get it.” You know, when I wanted to go to a Knicks game I had to sell baseball cards [expletive] in [expletive] sit in the [expletive], you know [expletive] top row [expletive] Carmello’s coming over my Hampton’s house to play with Zander. It’s [expletive] up.
So I don’t know what. Here are the things I give a [expletive]. Number one, more than anything, and I will kill them, murder, go to jail. They have to be kind. Kindness is the most important. Number two if I ever see them, even an inkling, even an innuendo, even a subtle little joke of imposing my or my wife’s wealth on somebody else because they think they’re part of that, I will break their [expletive] neck.
And then number three, I will not raise them in the politically correct environment we live in now. They know there is no such thing as fourth place trophies or participation prizes. Now if they want to be non profit. They’re going to look at daddy’s mountain and they’re like, “[expletive] that.” Or they’re may be, do what I do. “My dad’s seems big, mine’s going to be a hell of a lot bigger.” Other people have made it bigger than me and kids have done this, they’re going to look at that and they’re going to say, “[expletive] that. I’m going the other way. I’m building schools in Afghanistan.” Or they’re going to be like, “[expletive] it, I’m going to climb that mountain. I’m going to stick it to big mouth.”
I don’t care. I don’t need my kids to be entrepreneurs. I just need them to be as lucky as…..my mom, I got D’s and F’s. Every immigrant got good grades in the 80’s. There’s a couple of people a little older here, there was no entrepreneurship, school. Good school. That was it. My mom spit in the face of all those parents that made fun of my D’s and F’s and gave me ear cover to be me and it really [expletive] worked out. Not only for me, but the world became it.
If my kids want to paint in tomato sauce, I will back them to the earth’s end, as long as that’s really why they’re doing it. Not because they’re doing something to run away from something. Just blind support as long as they’re kind.
Audience member: And the last thing I wanted to say is I’m going to buy the Minnesota Vikings, so I’ll see you in the owner’s club.
Gary: No, no, no. Superbowl. Jets, Vikings 2047, I’ll see you there.
Audience member: My question is about time. You’re an angel investor in 100 companies, you have books and an 800 person agency and a family. It’s unreal to watch how much content you’re putting out. How do you choose between the thousands of startup pitches you’re getting and which interview to do or which speaking events to do? There’s just so much.
Gary: It’s 100% blind belief in my intuition. You know this. Everyone’s hustling. Eventually you lose, eventually you don’t have enough time to do the opportunity, so you’re crippled by opportunity. You just have to go that route; otherwise you’re going to spend all your time thinking about the process to make the best decision. And you’re going to waste being able to do four things that would have included the two things you’ve been debating for the last [expletive] day.
So just the belief in my intuition. And then lots of making fun of yourself. This one’s a perfect example. I have to, talk about time, my son has a birthday now, he’s an august birthday, I didn’t realize it was this Saturday, and I think it actually came after we booked this, but all the money from this talk is going into the [expletive]. I was originally going to go to Seattle, now I have to take a private plane out to…. I just [expletive] it up. And the whole day I’m just complaining, I’m like “I’m a [expletive] idiot.”
So you’re not always going to make it right. You’re always going to play micro/macro, but I think everybody’s saying no. Everybody’s saying no to [expletive] because they think they’re being thoughtful or they’re smart. You know how many people are saying no that aren’t even fancy enough to say yes yet? So I just say yes, man. A lot.
Audience member: Great to meet you. I have a two part name, Frank Jay. I want to appreciate you and your dedication, your consistency and your communication. We own a company called International Tribe design where we bring a style of communication, which is very simple but yet rare in this society, which is honesty and authenticity. I feel like you embody this. And I feel like a lot of us entrepreneurs, well at least for me, it was like shall I present myself strategically or authentically? What I want to ask you, the first part of the question. What do you think sells more influences more people, authentic honesty, or strategic marketing, neurolinguistic program and communication?
Gary: I think in the short term it’s a real battle. I think either could win. I think in the 30 year macro, the radical candor authentic way always wins. And the thing that [expletive] with people is a lot of people can win on strategic, you’re being very politically correct. A lot of people can win on bull[expletive]. Play it out for four years, get out of the game with their chips and win. Not a lot of people can though. But then once you know of one of those examples, it sounds exciting, because it’s a [expletive]load easier.
Audience member: and what do you think the future is for collaboration versus competition? So what we’re all about is collaboration, let’s bring us all together. I think we can all do great things as a team.
Gary: I think both will work. Competition matters, I want to destroy [expletive] Whaler hat, I wanna kill [expletive]. I want to kill Viking’s girl. Competition matters. Zenning this all out, but I’ll tell you in real life, Terroga five. David Terroga, phenomenal business man, has an incredible angency, he’s going to get his. Let me tell you one thing that a lot of you are making mistakes because you’re saying [expletive] behind people’s backs. You can’t stop winners from winning. Winners win.
I don’t remember when it became obvious to me, but it’s unbelievable. If I see a winner, I’m like, she’s a winner. It’s binary, even if she’s taking David Terroga. Winning in my world alongside Vayner Media, I’m pumped. I’m happy for him. Because if you’re also a winner, you’re going to always eat. Winners win. A lot of people see somebody who’s a winner and they’re not there yet, or they feel like they’re taking away from them and they’re talking [expletive] and really all that’s doing is exposing where you’re at. It’s unbelievable.
I hang out with a lot of people, people start yapping a little. I’m like, winners win. So unless you’re doing something really not noble or something of that nature, winners win. So I think that I collaborate with other winners that take from me. Complex and vice and they’re going to win. You’re not going to stop a winner. So keep that in mind. I think that’s something that does hold back this competitive, driven, hungry demo more than you might realize. Envy is stupid. It’s just not practical. I just don’t spend any time on it. Why? I don’t know.
Audience member: Gary, great to be here with you man. Seriously, it’s been about three years since you came across my Facebook feed, you were talking to some millennial kid and you just owned him, and you just had me hooked from that moment. But a couple of things, you talked about….
Gary: I apologize. I’m really anti the downplay of millennial kids, and I don’t think that’s what you’re doing, but I just figured I’d put it on film. I’m 42, there were plenty of lazy losers, entitled [expletive] when I was 22 too. This notion that millennial’s, millennial’s are first and foremost dramatically better human beings that the other generation, it’s actually not even close and you can’t be mad at them. The market, this has nothing to do with millennials, and over parenting. This has to do with economics, the last nine years have been phenomenal. We haven’t had a crash…..
How many people here are under 29? Raise your hand. You’ve never tasted the game when it was hard. You’ve never been punched directly in the [expletive] mouth yet. You don’t wake up like I did in April of 2000 and the market collapse and every invoice and every order is over. You don’t know what it feels like when the corporations that want to give you $10,000 for a selfie, don’t spend money anymore. It gets a little harder to be an influencer when there’s no cash in the system.
So I’m not mad at millennials, I’m mad a people’s not understanding of why. They’re awesome human beings because they’re far more rounded and they just had it good. That’s not their fault. We could have had that. I got into the world in New Jersey 2000 [expletive] got [expletive] on. 9/11 got [expletive] on. 2007 got [expletive] on. So I’ve tasted that. Just keep that in mind. And by the way, the reason I told that story, please keep in mind that the economy has been phenomenal for the last 9 years. A lot of the good is coming for you because of what’s happening at a macro level. You’re just average. I’m being serious. I’m not saying that to razz. I’m saying that to make you reflect so you can step up your game so that when the [expletive] ravage comes, you don’t die. So good, you got a little zing that you’re average, but now you can actually stay alive and not go [expletive] work, or go back to business school. Sorry, bro.
Audience member: I didn’t know that was going to take it on that course. So you talk about how companies are kind of behind the 8 ball on the whole social media, Facebook marketing, it’s how it’s a good value right now. Are you starting to see that trend diminish and when do you see that being not a value, Facebook?
Gary: As soon as math and art combine to not be valuable. Like on television. Meanwhile the Superbowl is the best…anyone who’s got 20 million throwing around, run a Superbowl ad this year. The problem is they’re 7, it’s only 7 for the ad, which is phenomenal, but the network makes you buy some other [expletive]. That’s where it get’s [expletive] up. But Superbowl is an incredible value.
I don’t know, I’m stunned that these big companies that I work with, still question it’s ROI and want to run commercials and billboards. It’s so fun to watch them all go out of business over the next 20 years, they deserve it. I can’t wait. Seriously.
Audience member: Last thing is you mentioned political correctness and your kids, which is awesome and I think that’s what everyone loves about you, you just say what’s on your mind. I think we could all take a page out of that book of just being pure honest. With this crazy climate, with the whole Google guy that got fired from there, the whole ESPN thing. How do you see this political correctness and what do you do to mitigate that in your company?
Gary: It’s a really good question Rob, and it’s a really tough one. A couple of things. Number one, I said to something the other day that finally articulated how I feel about all of it. I said to a friend, “[expletive] people, there’s only one place in my life where I’m not logical or practical, American Football. Against all data, I think that the Patriots are cheaters and Bill Belichik is a terrible guy and even though Tom Brady is clearly, and I’ve spent money on investigative journalism, he’s the nicest human being ever, I still say things like, he left his pregnant wife for Giselle. He’s a piece of [expletive].” I will do anything blindly.
Even talking right now, the chemicals in my body are different. I feel it. I hate them so much. I really want Bill Belichik to die. You know it’s funny. I wonder if people think I’m going for… I want it. So cool. We’ve established that.
I’m clearly irrational, over emotional, not logical and just the worst version of myself in that one narrow place. There are people who are fans of me who have DM’d me or have tweeted that I’m a bad guy. I’ll yell at children at games. I’m not joking. You know how people get beer muscles? You know that term? You drink and then you want to fight. I have sports muscles. I go to a game and even though everybody would probably be able to beat me up, I want to fight you because I want to fight you because it feels better than feeling the pain of your team beating mine.
Like a week ago I realized, holy [expletive], that’s how blindly everyone is about politics. You’re either red or blue and you deploy no logic, no rational, you are blindly emotional, you have no idea what the [expletive] you’re talking about and that’s it. We’re about to turn every issue into a political….how the [expletive] is climate a political….what are we doing here?
So I have a huge office in New York and LA. 84% of my employees are liberals. 84, right. So I have liberal points of view all day long. The thought of hating anybody or disliking another human being for any reason, other than maybe being a patriot, is insane to me. Insane to me, insane to me. But I have clearly republican….an 8th place trophy is why China is going to [expletive] on us with such a big [expletive] dump that we’ll never be able to breathe again.
How I handle is one by one. It’s very hard. You cannot handle this at a macro right now, because our society is on tilt. That’s how I do it.
The secret behind making the important become urgent.
On this episode of Marketing Secrets, Russell gives a recap of some of the events for the Viral video launch from last week. He goes into some rough numbers and stats and explains why they did it. Here are some of the highlights of this episode:
So listen to this episode and find out how many views the viral video got, and what good things have come from it so far.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell. I want to welcome you guys to Marketing Secrets. I’m finally giving you a chance to hear behind the scenes of what happened with the viral video launch, the bubble soccer party, and everything that’s happening on today’s episode of Marketing Secrets.
Alright everybody, welcome back. I hope you guys have been doing amazing. This whole week I’ve been in inner circle meetings, so I’ve been dropping some cool stuff on the podcast, hopefully you’ve been enjoying it. If you’ve been listening to the audio version, I gave you guys a really cool call from Frank Kern, which was awesome. Sent you my presentation of how we went from zero to a hundred million dollars without taking on any outside capital, which was cool. Hopefully you liked that. And Now I’m finally having a chance to tell you guys behind the scenes.
So it’s been a fun week afterwards. Whenever something like this happens, we have no idea what to expect. What happens if we launch this video and it gets 500 million views, what if we launch it and it gets ten views? You have no idea what’s going to happen. So for me it’s always like, I think sometimes people get so invested in the outcome, they miss the fun and joy of what you’re doing.
I know that I’ve had times in my life where I do that as well. So consciously with this, as well as any launch, I set big goals and big dreams and stuff like that, but as they get closer and closer and closer, I start, I don’t know if that’s the right word, I delete the outcome goal in my head. I just, I don’t know what it’s going to be, and if I set one and I don’t hit it, I’m going to be sad. If I set one and I surpass it, I’ll be happy. But I don’t want that, because I did the work no matter what and I want to be able to celebrate it and enjoy it.
So I try to just get rid of the outcome in my head. So going into it, I didn’t have an outcome. Again, I was looking at things like, what’s the worst case scenario. So for us, Clickfunnels worst case scenario, a lot of you guys know we spent a lot of money. Harmon brothers charge about a half a million dollars for a video, plus we threw a big party, we hired influencers to come, when all was said and done, I haven’t looked at the numbers yet. It’s been a whirlwind week. I would say probably, all in, in this party promotion we’re probably in close to a million dollars, which is kind of crazy.
I think I told you guys before, it’s the first time I just put everything on black, or everything on red. However you say that, I don’t know the terminology, the gambling thing, just kind of rolling it. Typically with any kind of marketing, we’re very direct response driven. Where we test small, put a dollar in, get two dollars back out, and if that works we scale. That’s how we’ve grown our company. That’s how everything I believe is based on that.
So this was the biggest thing. We’re like, we’re putting a lot in without knowing ahead of time, but it’s okay because we’re looking at what’s the worst case scenario. Worst case scenario, average Clickfunnels member, lifetime average I estimate is 1200 bucks or something like that, maybe higher. In fact, I’m sure it is higher. We’ve only been in business, in fact tomorrow is our three year birthday, a lot of people have been with us three years. So that number keeps growing over time, but as far as we know now, it’s over $1200 a person.
So we’re like, worst case scenario, if this video brings us an extra thousand customers, it broke even, which is awesome. So that’s really good. But the bigger win on my side, there’s a couple of big wins. One of them is, when this video went live we needed to simplify our process. The signup process, the onboarding, all sorts of stuff like that. Because of that, I don’t know if you guys logged into Clickfunnels recently, there’s a bunch of new stuff.
There’s a Clickfunnels game, there’s new onboarding, there’s these things we call “Show me how” little walk-through’s that have video and written out explanation that show you how to do every single thing. We set up a way to get custom domains, where you click a button and get a custom domain. In fact, we gave everybody the first custom domain for free. We figured out all these things to simplify the onboarding process, so when this new onslaught of people came, we’d be prepared for it.
So one of the biggest things, that’s something we’ve known we needed to do for probably two years, we just haven’t had the time or energy to do it. This forced us to spend that time and energy. A lot of times we focus on stuff that’s urgent but not important. This one was super important, but it was never urgent so we never got it done. So by doing this, calling our shot and making this big video, it forced us to focus on the important that’s not urgent. It became urgent for us. So we, as a team, killed ourselves. You probably saw the week prior, we were here all night last week.
Our whole tech team and dev team, design team, everyone was here just killing ourselves to get prepared for it. A lot of evaluations, if we ever wanted to sell Clickfunnels in the future, one of the big things to look at is churn rate, so we knew what our churn numbers were at. For us it was like, if we could lower our churn by 2% that alone would be worth, tens if not in the future, hundreds of millions of dollars. But tens within the next 12 months.
So that was our goal was to reduce churn by 2 points. So it was a week ago today that the viral video went live. So we’re about a week. Obviously stats aren’t perfect, we don’t know the numbers, but based on the first, it’s been live a week, what’s it trending towards? I don’t know if it’s going to hold, so I don’t want to tie down to it yet, but based on the first 7 days our churn in the window and everything has dropped by more than 2%, which is amazing. More than 2%.
I’m hoping over the next 30 days, 60 days, 90 days that sticks. If it does, that alone is worth more money than I could ever have dreamt of. In fact, the thing is right now, I could talk about this for a long time and explain it all. But basically where we’re at right now, as we’ve grown, we just passed 50,000 members last week, a week ago yesterday, 50,000 members. But as soon as we get to about 60,000 members, the new members we bring in and people we lose each day become about the same, so it gets really hard to scale past 60,000 members.
If we drop our churn by 2 percentage points, our next peak is at 100. So almost instantly we get to 100,000 members. So that alone is a big reason. Another big reason why we did the viral video is unification, if that’s the right word, connection, tribe building, bringing people within the culture, closer together and building that bond. We had hundreds of people throwing viral video launch parties in their homes. We had Julia Stoilin throw a launch party and invited the whole internet and she had people driving four or five hours to her house to come watch it with her.
It just brought our tribe as a whole together. We streamed live presentations from me, from the Harmon Brothers, and Gary Vaynerchuk last minute was like, “You should stream my stuff too.” So we streamed his. And we had 20,000 people live between YouTube and Facebook that watched this whole event go down. Think what that does for community, tribe, culture building within our audience, which was amazing. So that was another big thing. How does this become a bigger win for us as a community?
Second is how does this make Clickfunnels even more fun? We’re a software product. We’re competing with all these boring software products that are faceless, nameless and boring. Now we’re interesting to talk about. This video is something that people can talk about, they can share, show their friends and family. People come there and they’re like, “oh that’s what Clickfunnels does.” It gave us the ability and the timeliness to rebuild our sales funnel.
Typically I don’t like, here’s a brand new funnel, but we kind of had to. So it gave us a chance to sit back and re-tweak things and build things really differently. You’ve probably seen some of it. Again, it’s on the weekend, so I don’t know super good conversion numbers, but as a whole the conversions and EPC’s and dollars in are up, dramatically.
So doing this thing wasn’t just, “How many times has the video been shared, how much viral? Is it actually working?” But it’s all these other pieces that are more important to us, that it forced us to do. So I just want to put it out there.
It was funny, I was watching people’s Facebook the next day, I think we had like 300,000 views the first day and people were like, “Oh this didn’t go viral, Clickfunnels burned their money.” And all these things, and I’m just on my side laughing because you guys don’t get it. People see what they understand, but they’re missing the rest of it. That was my goal with this podcast always, to let you see the magicians hands. What are we doing? Why are we doing it? Why is that important? Why was I willing to gamble and risk that much money on something that was that big of a risk?
Because it forced us to take the important and make it urgent. Which most business don’t ever do that, which is why they die. Kind of like my wife’s business, you should see the video. I buried it next to my first wife’s business, and my first wife. If you haven’t watched the video yet, go to Clickfunnels.com and watch the video. That way that joke will make more sense, along with the nude squirrels and everything else.
Other good things it did for us internally. We’ve always struggled to be recruited talent. People know Clickfunnels, which is the majority of our team come in. But developers and things like that, it’s hard. Where now, they see the video and they’re like, “Oh cool, that’s the company, that’s the culture, that’s what I want to be part of.” So it’s helping us already recruit talent. And on the other side it’s bringing in customers at an incredible rate.
So prior to this launch, depending on the ad sent and the landing page and stuff like that. For us to get a new Clickfunnels member on the low end, was probably $60, on the high end $120-130, to get a free trial. And that’s kind of the window we played with. It goes up and down and bounces all around, but that’s kind of been the window. Right now, the video is getting new customers at under $40 a piece on the pay side, but don’t forget there’s also the free side that’s bringing tons of free people.
So if you take the free and the paid and mix them together, our cost to acquire a customer right now from the video is probably, I don’t know, this is off the top of my head, I’d say probably $15-20, which is insane. Insane. Most SAASes in our world are $120-150. So there’s kind of cool things.
Also, as of today, should I check it? We were almost at a million views. A million people have seen our sales video and now are aware of Clickfunnels, which is crazy. I’m pulling up the actual thing to see. We were thinking today we may pass a million views, but it’s going to be a tight one. I don’t think by now, but by tonight hopefully we will have done that. We are at 927,000 views. So we’re getting close to a million and this thing will continue to drive leads, traffic and sales today, tomorrow and forever.
We knew with launching this it wasn’t going to be like Poopourri or Squatty Potty viral. To explain what Clickfunnels is takes more. In fact, they were stressed out at first, “This is the longest video we’ve done.” I think it 4 minutes, almost 5 minutes long. I was like, “Yeah, but it’s okay because I would rather have less people, but the people who watch it understand what we are and then they come in and actually become customers and they stick.”
Anyway, it’s funny, the people that….it’s just funny. I see all the trolls that are in, all be like, “The video’s too long, that’s why it’s not going viral.” I’m like, “Dude, I don’t need it to go viral. That was the campaign we did to unite the community and get people excited so that people cared when this came out.” All the other things is why we did and why it’s already….it paid for itself in the first 30 hours. That part is done, now it’s this tool, asset that’s becoming huge for us.
So that’s what I want people to understand, in case they don’t. Because I know a lot of people don’t quite get all the pieces. So hopefully this kind of helps. Sorry I’m watching the video again, it’s so fun.
Alright so, what else what else was I going to share with you? So that’s some of the core things. A lot of people have been asking me about it. The last thing I want to talk about, it gave us the ability to throw a party. Why do I like throwing parties? Because we’re marketers and we should make an event out of everything. We had inner circle last week and we had James Malinchak, who if you know who James is, if you Google “Secret Millionaire” he was on secret millionaire 7 or 8 years ago. And I remember when he was on Secret Millionaire, most people would be like you’re on TV and it’s like, “Hey I’m on TV.” And that’s it.
But James is really strategic about it and he actually threw a big party at his house. He invited me and a bunch of other people out to his house and then did a whole launch around it. He had what’s his name, from Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous? Robin Leach come to it. And he threw a big event around it and it made it fun for people like me to come to it and talk and share it. And it made me become friends with James and connect with him and care about him and his mission. Because he threw this big event around it. That’ why we did this as well.
It gave us the ability to throw an event that people, whether they could come to Boise or not, could watch it streaming live and see me and Gary and all these people. So many cool tribe building, culture building things that came from it.
Anyway, throw an event. I tell people if you’re going to launch a Facebook ad, throw an event around it. If it’s going to be good, invite ten other influencers to come to your house, launch the event together, launch the ad together. Whatever it is, make a party out of it and they have a vested interest in your success. They’re going to walk, talk, all those amazing things come from it. Everyone in my office is out clapping. We got some weird people over there. Sorry, if you’re wondering what’s happening over there.
I hope that helps you guys because everyone keeps asking me what happened? Has it been good, bad? And I just wanted to give you a recap, it’s been freaking amazing for us. Again, it forced the important to become urgent, it’s reduced our churn, it’s increased our….dropped our cost to acquire a customer, increased our conversions, our average cart sales, so many good things have come from it. We’ve built some amazing relationships, people who never would have known what Clickfunnels were, sat in a room for 5 hours with us and then played bubble soccer with us. We went in the Guinness book of world record playing bubble soccer.
We build connection, community, relationships, so many good things came from this thing. It’s been amazing. So yes it was good, financially as well as all the other things, and it keeps continuing to grow. I don’t know how many software companies have a sales video that has been seen a million times in the first 7 days. That’s rare. And it was the sales video that pitched the product really, really hard. You know what I mean? Sometimes they have these ones that are fancy. I don’t know if you remember Grasshopper, they had a really cool viral video about being an entrepreneur, it’s a big entrepreneur thing and everyone’s like, “Grasshopper.” And that was it. Yeah, it did that. But it didn’t sell the product. What’s Grasshopper. I go to Grasshopper.com, oh it’s phone systems for entrepreneurs. I didn’t know that.
This one is like a million people watched it and it’s pitching our product, you know what I mean. We got 5,397 shares, 19,000 emojis, a ton of comments, 1870 comments. It’s all good from a lot of different angles. So I hope that helps. I hope that gives you guys some visibility on what we did and why we did it. One of the big reasons why we do launched, as much as I hate them and the stress that goes into them, again is it forces important to become urgent.
So I recommend for you guys to look at, what are the important things that you have that you need to do? That you’re like, “I know I need to do that.” And how do you make it urgent? How do you tie in a launch or something, or an event or something that forces the important, that you know you need to do to become urgent.
For us the urgent was always launch a new funnel, launch a new thing, drive more sales, those things were urgent so we were always doing them. But it was like, if I can reduce churn by 3 percentage points, that’s worth more than 10,000 new customers to me. But I never did it because it wasn’t urgent. It wasn’t in front of my face all the time. So as soon as I made the important become urgent through this process, it became urgent and it’s been huge since then.
So there you guys go, it’s been 7 days. Like I said, I’ll probably do another recap when it’s been 30 days or so and kind of keep giving you more stats as I get clearer numbers on things. Like I said, I’m in the Inner Circle the last 4 days, so today’s my first day back and half the team’s gone. But I’ll get deeper into the numbers and stuff and share more as we keep going on.
But I hope that helps. Appreciate you all, thanks again for watching the video. If you haven’t watched it, go watch it, go share it, go comment, go like, have some fun, because that’s what we do. And tomorrow, by the time you guys listen to this, will be Clickfunnels 3rd birthday. Yes, we’ve only been in business 3 years. We passed 50,000 members, we’re going to change the world thanks to you guys. So thanks for everything. I hope this helped, appreciate you guys and we’ll talk soon. Bye everybody.
My live presentation from the viral video launch party.
On this episode Russell gives a presentation at the viral video launch of how Clickfunnels went from $0 to $100,000,000 using growth hacking and sales funnels. Here are some of the awesome things in this episode:
So listen here to hear this awesome presentation that can teach you how to grow your business using sales funnels.
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I am still planning on giving you guys a huge recap of the viral video event, bubble soccer, everything else that went down at the event, because some crazy stuff happened. I’m also trying to get permission from Gary V to let me share some of his presentation with you guys here. So that’s the game plan. If I’m able to do that, you’ll see it soon. And you’ll see my recap soon as well. But this week I’ve got my inner circle here, so I am in there locked away.
So what I did want to do is I got the video clip from my presentation at the event about how to go from zero to a hundred million dollars in sales, how we did that by using sales funnels and growth hacking. And it was a shorter presentation, but I think it was really, really cool. I’m sure I talked really, really fast. I was also really tired, I’d only slept one hour the night before. So if it doesn’t make any sense, that’s kind of the context of why. But hopefully it will give you guys some ideas about how to scale a company.
You hear me talk about the Dotcom Secrets book a lot. Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins, and sometimes when you hear that it’s depressing if you don’t have a lot of money, so I’m not going to win. And that’s how I felt, especially when we launched Clickfunnels and we’re competing against two companies, one that had 40 million dollars in funding and one that had over 100 million. How do you do that? And this presentation shows you how we did it. So after we do a little Marketing Secrets intro here, I’m going pick right up with my presentation from the event, I hope you love it. Thanks so much and we’ll talk to you guys soon.
I put together this presentation because like I said, the biggest question I get, especially from people who are building their own companies is “how in the world have you grown Clickfunnels so fast without having any money, any capitol, any outside funding at all?” So I put together this presentation this morning. Like I said, I had one hour of sleep last night, then I got up and started working on this presentation.
But to kind of walk you through what we did and some of the mind shifts that I think are different that will hopefully help you guys as you’re growing and scaling everything you are doing.
So the title of my presentation is how do we use growth hacking and sales funnels to go from zero to a hundred million dollars in less than three years, we’re a week away, without taking any outside funding. So the first thing I want to go over really quickly, for those that didn’t know what I was talking about earlier, I’m going to go over what a funnel is really quick.
So what is a funnel? If you look at, actually let me step back. The reason why I want to talk about this is it’s been interesting, I’ve been doing this internet marketing game for 15 years now. This is my 15th year in the business selling all sorts of stuff, and it’s interesting because recently there’s been a whole bunch of books coming out on growth hacking, all these cool new ways to growth hack. And it’s funny because we get the growth hacking books and read them, it’s like, that’s all the internet marketing stuff we’ve been doing for the last decade. And now it’s like, real businesses are catching on, figuring out these things that are really, really cool.
So that’s kind of why, my thoughts on this presentation. Showing all these funnel things, this is the growth hacking, this is the movement, this is where things are going that we keep talking about.
So what’s a funnel? To explain a funnel, I think the easiest way to begin, is to show what a funnel is not. So this is a traditional style website. This is what Clickfunnels is kind of going against all the time. Most people have traditional websites, they have all sorts of ads. They’re paying for Facebook, Youtube, Google, all these things and they’re driving it into these websites, and it’s literally slamming a whole bunch of people into a brick wall.
I know that because this is how I got started. I was trying that thing and it did not work. I always say that a traditional website is kind of like having a really bad sales person who is shy and all they do is hand out brochures, and then pray the person comes back. That’s a traditional website. What a funnel is, is basically having the best salesperson on planet earth, come and meet the person at the front door, find out their name and walk them through the process. Find out what they want, how they want it and giving them exactly what they want.
So that’s kind of what a sales funnel is. My whole philosophy in business kind of, like I told you guys in the last presentation, when we started Clickfunnels three years ago, we had two major competitors that we were looking at. Number one had just gotten 43 million dollars in funding and number two had just had over 100 million dollars in funding. I’m coming in with me and Todd and we’re bank rolling it with our big old credit cards and we’re like, “Okay, we’re going against these huge giants that have hundreds of millions of dollars, how are we going to win?”
One of my first mentors, Dan Kennedy, he used to say this all the time. “Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins.” So I’m looking at these companies who have hundreds of millions of dollars in funding and I’m like, I’m screwed. I’m not going to be able to win. These guys could out spend me every single day.
And I started looking at this more and more and I didn’t get it at first. It took me a couple of years before I understood this concept of whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins. Like I told you before, I went to college here at Boise State, I wrestled here and I used to carry my buddies on back up and down the football stadium, every single day before practice, this is my hometown. Here in Boise, one thing we’re famous for, those who are not from Idaho, we’re famous for potatoes and the very first product I ever put together was a DVD teaching people how make potato guns.
You probably heard me tell this story before, but it was a DVD how to make potato guns. I set it up online, I was learning about internet marketing, it was really simple. I had a one page website, I had Google ads. That’s all that we did back in the day. So I went to Google, started buying ads, I was spending about $10 a day on Google ads, and I was selling a $37 DVD on how to make potato guns. So I spent $10 a day on ads and I usually averaged about one sale per day. So Russell as a college kid was making a whopping $27 per day profit, I was putting into my pocket, which was pretty awesome.
And that was kind of my beginning. And then what happened, a little while into this whole game, Google shifted how everything worked and I got in big, big trouble and literally overnight, my website was the same but I went from spending $10 a day in ads to spending $50 a day, overnight. So I was spending $50 a day and sending it to the exact same website, but I was only making one sale. Same thing. So I was losing $13 a day.
And my beautiful wife, after about 3 or 4 days of that said, “You have to stop. This is not a good business. This is really, really bad.” So we stopped and eventually had to cut up our credit cards and I thought I’d missed the bubble. I’m like dang it, we missed it. And those are actual pictures of us cutting up our credit cards, back in our first home.
About that time I had a friend who was also in the business and he came back and said, “Russell, I think I’ve figured this out. My little website..” He had the same problem. Google raised their prices, algorithms changed, and a bunch of my friends got out of the business. One of my friends came back and he’s like, “I figured it out. I started adding in these things.” He called them OTO’s which stands for one time offer, or basically an upsell. He says, ”I’m charging upsells to my products and I start making more money from every customer, and now I’m able to afford my ads again. I turned my ads back on.” I was like, “That’s cool, but I don’t know how…How can I do that? I don’t know how to do that.”
I was like, “I have a potato gun DVD. What should I do?” and he’s like, “Well, people who buy potato gun DVD’s, what else do they need? How else can you serve them?” And I was like, “Well, we could buy them, the next piece is they have to buy a potato gun kit, so they’d have to buy pipes and a BBQ igniter, all these other pieces.” And he’s like, “Well you should sell a kit.” I’m like, “Well I don’t want to make kits. That would be really not cool.” And he’s like, “See if you can find someone.”
So I ended up finding a guy in Northern Idaho who actually was drop shipping potato gun kits, did a partnership with him and I made my very first funnel. This is my funnel transition. So people who buy my DVD, I’d upsell a $200 potato gun kit and we’d send it out in the mail. So what’s cool is I’d turned the Google ads on back in the day, and what happened is I was still spending about $50 a day, but then one out of three people would start buying the potato gun kit. So we did the math on that, one out of three people, means I was averaging about $60 in additional sales with every DVD that I got, that I sold.
Which means I was spending about $50 a day on ads, and now I was making $102 in ads, and all the sudden it worked again. That was magic. Literally when I made that shift I went from losing money to making $52 a day in profit. I was like, this is it. Biggest thing in the world.
For me obviously, potato guns is a very small market and I didn’t stay there long, but the concept of that rang through my head, I was like this is how it works. And my moral that I learned from this whole experience was that funnels make me money, websites make me broke. So my obsession for the last decade of my life has been this. A lot of you guys have been to my events for the last decade, teaching this concept. Showing you guys, this is the key.
So when I started doing this and realizing it, that message I had heard from my mentor kept coming back to my head saying, “Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins.” That was the key. Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins. So as we came into this game of Clickfunnels and looking at people with hundreds of millions of dollars in venture capital behind them, I’m like how in the world can we compete with that? I was like, I can’t do it. Head for head they can all outspend me, but if I can build a funnel that’s right, I can change everything.
If you look at the reason why we have grown as fast as we have, is because we can literally outspend everyone. We get probably three or four times a week, different people trying to put money into CLickfunnels, and most of these we tell them no, but a couple we’ve entertained because it’s interesting and we’re curious what they think we’re worth, it’s really fun.
So we were at lunch this day with this group and I’m talking to the guy and he’s going over everything, and he asks the question they always ask on Shark Tank, “How much does it cost to acquire a customer?” And I hate when people ask this question because he’s not going to get what I’m going to tell him. I was like, “Well we’re running Facebook ads, for the home page, we’re spending about $120 to acquire a free trial member.” And he was like, “Oh that’s amazing, based on that, what I can do is go and put in $50 million in cash and we get this many customers…” and all this stuff and I was like, “Well, well, real quick. We actually turned those ads off.” And he’s like, “You turned those ads off.” And I’m like, “Yeah. I gotta pay for this out of my own pocket. I don’t want to lose $120 every customer.” And he’s like, “Well how are you guys growing fast?” and I said, “ The reason why is because we have funnels.”
And I explained to him some of my front end funnels, like my book funnels, some other funnels. I said, “Look, for every single person that comes to one of my funnels, if they buy one of my books, we spend on average about $10-12 on a Facebook ads, or other ad platforms to sell a book, but then through that funnel we average about $32. What happens is we spend $12 and get someone to buy one of our books, we make net, $20 of cash in our pocket, and then we introduce them to Clickfunnels. So every single customer, before we tell them about Clickfunnels, they actually pay us money and we put that money in our pocket.”
He’s like, “That doesn’t make any sense.” And I explained it again. And he said, “That doesn’t make sense.” And I explained it three or four times and he stopped and said, “If what you’re saying is true, that will change business forever.” I was like, “That’s my whole message. That’s what we do. That’s what funnels are all about.”
So I want to walk you guys really quick through this and then we’re going to have Gary come up here in a minute. But one of the key concepts you guys need to understand, and this a concept we call a break even funnel. Those of my inner circle members who are here, we spent a lot of time on this, but the break even funnel is a funnel where you break even, so you can literally get customers for free. When you have that, you can grow your company as quick, as big, as fast as you want. So we spend a lot of time on that. So this is a break even funnel, where I put a dollar in advertizing in and get at least a dollar back out, and if I’m good at it, I can get two or three dollars back out. Now I’ve got a customer, I’ve got some cash, now we can put them into the other things that we have.
A couple of examples of some of our break even funnels, I grabbed these from some slides this morning to show you some examples. This is my Dotcom Secrets book, this is a couple of months ago stats. We got about 5400 leads, we sold 23,095 books, our average cart value during that time was $30.81, so we spent $45,000 in ads, we made $52,000 in sales so our profit was $7,763. Most people would look at a company our size and be like, that is a waste. You just wasted a lot of….you just made $7 grand, that’s not a big deal.
But that was to get customers. We got 5400 people that then, the next week we would say, “hey, by the way, there’s this really cool thing called Clickfunnels.” And I got paid $7,000 to get those 5400 people onto my list. That was one of our front end products. This is a split-testing book, same kind of thing. We had 2,000 leads come in last month, 1300 book sold, average cart value was $12. Ads we spent $4000, sales was $18,000, so we made $13,000 but now we got 2000 people that we can introduce to Clickfunnels. So we got paid to get all these customers.
One more example is Perfect Webinar, same kind of thing. Leads, sales, I’ll go through this quickly. We made $4000 and got 1600 customers we introduced into Clickfunnels. Now if you walk through those three funnels alone, and we have about a dozen or so front end funnels that we use in different platforms and things, last month from this, basically our front end revenue was $96.000, our ad costs were $81,000, so we netted a whopping $14,000. Most people would be like, “Man Russell, with a company with 120 employees, you’re going to go broke fast.”
But what’s amazing about that, is that it brought in literally 30 or 40,000 new people into our world, who then we took them through the rest of our sequence. They’re introduced to us, now we can go and build a relationship with them, talk to them, serve them, help them understand what we do, what we believe, and introduce them to our other products and services. And for us, obviously that is Clickfunnels.
So if you look at that, what it means for us, is we literally get almost a thousand trials for free every single day, like clockwork. That comes back to what we talked about before. That’s how we’re able to grow so fast. We can literally outspend everybody in our market. There’s nobody else that can do that.
And what’s cool for you guys, whatever business you’re in, that’s the key. Remember whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins, and when you figure that out, it makes it so you can grow really, really quickly. Any kind of business, any kind of venture, anything that you want to do. So that, you guys, is how we use growth hacking and sales funnels to go from zero to a hundred million dollars in just three years without taking on any outside funding. Thank you.
Cool message I got a few minutes before starting our viral video launch event.
Russell’s thoughts as he enters the last phase of the viral video launch.
In this podcast Russell is worn out and tired but he talks about finishing what he started even when he’s burned out. Here are some of the awesome insights you will hear in today’s episode:
So listen here to be inspired to keep going and moving forward and finish what you start.
What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today’s episode is called 99 yards doth not a touchdown make.
Hey everybody, welcome again to the podcast. I’m glad to have you guys here. I’m doing this the day before the viral video launch. And if I’m completely honest, I feel like garbage. I didn’t want to get out of bed today, I didn’t want to move. To kind of give you some context of everything, everyone’s like, “oh you’re launching a video, that’s gotta be pretty easy. The Harmon Brothers did the video.” I’m like, “Yeah but there’s a lot of stuff on this side that happens.” Like we completely changed the entire online sales process. So new sales letters, new sales flow, everything, which when you see it, it’s pretty ninja.
That alone is usually a couple week project to get it right, and so that’s been happening and doing that all this week. Number two is we rebuilt our whole onboarding process. You will see if you go to Clickfunnels.com and create an account, or if you just login as of tomorrow, you will see the whole onboarding process. We’ve got online game, we’ve got these video walk through’s. I think I recorded 150+ videos for the new walk through process. So we’ve been doing that and getting all that programmatically created. Plus all the videos and copy and things like that. Boom that’s number two.
Then we’ve got the new online cookbook. We created a Funnel Hacker Cookbook, so that book is launching this week. That’d be a 350 pages cookbook. And then this week, I was like I need some training with this so we also happened to have had the FHAT event this week, it’s still happening. It’s a 3 day event where people come and we build out an entire webinar with them. So day one I spoke onstage with them for 3 hours, then went to lunch. Then after lunch I jumped in my office with a blank slide deck and power point and I ended up creating over the next 4 hours 222 slides for a presentation to teach the cookbook that night.
Then I went and ate dinner. After dinner I got it up, I set up the entire kitchen with a bunch of Lego’s that you will see. Then we taught, I did a presentation for 2 ½ hours teaching how to use the cookbook, how it works with Lego’s and it was really cool, because we needed that training video. Then we took that and we’re chopping it up into 74 mini videos, which Brandon Fischer was doing all of it yesterday, which is crazy. And then we still had this live event.
So yesterday, Steven was running the event, which was nice. So he ran the event all day. While he was running the event, I was working on the sales letter, the process and I realized that a bunch of the videos I had created for one purpose, for the onboarding, didn’t actually work for that thing. So I went and recorded 22 more videos yesterday for that. Recorded the videos plus had to work on all the other stuff. And then after that I had to run home, I’m a scout master, so I went to 11 year old scouts, taught the kids how to swim yesterday. Then I went back to the office and the FHAT event was still happening, and I got on stage from 9:00 to 12:30 at night, in the morning, teaching how to do the stack, which was awesome.
And I was just like so tired. And then today is happening and I woke up and I’m just like, I’m dead. Hosting an event and then launching an event, launching a cookbook, we’re launching an onboarding process, new sales letter, new demo pages, plus all the marketing sequence and automation I still gotta create today. Then tonight I have my family pictures. Why?
So I woke up today feeling like crap, I still feel like crap. I honestly, if I’m being completely honest, the last thing I want to do today is everything I’ve got to do today. But as I woke up this morning, I heard something ringing through my head. It was this quote I heard from a teacher, and it’s 99 yards doth not a touchdown make. The back story behind this, I went to BYU, Brigham Young University, my freshman year, I was a wrestler there. Towards the end of it I decided I was going to go serve a mission for my church, so I signed up for some missionary prep classes and my missionary prep teacher’s name was Randy Bott. He’s written three or four books on going on a mission and all that kind of stuff.
He’s teaching the class and he’s talking about how for Mormon missionaries, you’re out for two years and you go through this whole process. And for two years you’re out knocking on doors, you call home on Mother’s Day and on Christmas, you don’t get to date girls, you don’t get to watch TV, you’re just out there for two years and it’s tough. I remember he gave this lesson one time and he titled this lesson, 99 yards doth not a touchdown make.
He talked about how you go out there and you’re serving this thing for two years and he said that let’s say you served really good mission and the last four or five months you kind of just relax and take it easy and goof off or whatever. He’s like, if you do that, the destiny of your life will change because you decided to slack off. He said in a football game, you can work your butt off. Drive 99 yards all the way across the field, get to the one yard line and if you don’t kick that in, don’t cross the goal line, if you don’t make a touchdown you get zero points. It’s not like, oh well they did a really good job, we’ll give them three. No, you either make it or you don’t. 99 yards doth not a touchdown make, you gotta score a touchdown or you don’t get the points.
That was kind of the moral of that lesson. And I remembered that as I was on my mission, especially toward the end when I was tired and I was ready to get home and I remembered that ringing through my head. 99 yards doth not a touchdown make, you’ve gotta get in the end zone, you’ve gotta finish this strong. So I did.
I remember when I was wrestling, same thing. My senior year of wrestling, I was wrestling a guy, I think at the time he was ranked 7th in the country, and I went out there and I don’t think I was ranked at this time. I had lost some matches I shouldn’t have early, so I dropped out of the rankings. I’m wrestling this guy, and on paper I should not have beat him. I went out there and I remember wrestling him, and at first he came out really hard and strong and was beating me and then I came back and was fighting back, fighting back, fighting back and eventually I ended up tying him and we went into overtime, and in overtime the thought that rang through my head was 99 yards doth not a touchdown make.
I have come all this way and killed myself. I cut weight, I didn’t eat for a week, I did all these things. The match I was fighting and fighting and fighting, if I lose now, if I stop now, it’s over. I can’t stop, can’t stop. I went out there and I remember in overtime I took him down and I remember jumping around like crazy. And the news was there, it was so cool. The news captured that, and that night it was on the nightly news showing me taking this guy down in overtime, it was awesome.
It’s just interesting how that one phrase has helped me. Now I’m looking at today and I woke up and I just don’t want to do this. I want to go to bed, I’m tired and my nose is stuffed, I’m beat up. Today I’m going to go, I’ve got 5 or 6 hours to do and then I gotta get back onstage for two hours and present. When I get done with that, I gotta go home and get family pictures, then I’m going to come back…sorry, my nose is stuffed, as you can hear. I gotta come back and I’ll probably be here at the office until 2 or 3 in the morning tonight. Then tomorrow morning I wake up and gotta still do my presentation for tomorrow. Then we got 400 people coming and I gotta speak and entertain and I’m MC’ing the event. And Gary Vaynerchuk’s speaking, I’m speaking, the Harmon Brothers are speaking and then we’re going to launch the viral video and then from there we’re going to go down and play bubble soccer until like 10 o’clock at night.
So tomorrow’s going to be tough too, but 99 yards doth not a touchdown make. I think a lot of times in business and other things, people work so hard and get so close to the end and then at the end they take their foot off the gas and then what could have been amazing, ends up being good or not anything at all.
So for you guys, I want you to know first off, even I get burned out. Sometimes, like today, I don’t want to do this thing. The last thing on earth I want to do is turn this car off and walk in there, but I’m going to do it because I’m on the one yard line, and I know that the difference between champions and the people who aren’t, is this last piece, pushing it over the edge, getting it out. It’s the last execution where most people quit or they ease up or they step off the gas. Instead I’m going to step on the gas and we’re going to blow through thing and freaking make a touchdown. It’s going to be awesome.
So that’s what’s happening today. Hopefully this gives you some motivation for those of you guys who are struggling or tired or worn out. I understand, I’ve been there. Push through the pain, you’re almost there, you’re on the one yard line, just get through it, just push to the end. 99 yards doth not a touchdown make, that last yard is the one that matters. So don’t give up, you’re almost there. I’m almost there. I’m almost there, you’re almost there, let’s do it together. Okay, I’m going inside you guys, have some fun. I’ll see you guys on the other line, I’ll see you guys in the end zone. Bye everybody.
My thoughts as I detox from Lucky Charms.
On today’s episode Russell talks about the effects of putting negative fuel in your body instead of positive. Here are some of the informative things you will hear today:
So listen here to find out why putting negative fuel in your body could be making your work suffer.
What’s up everybody? It’s a late night Marketing Secrets podcast out in the pool house before I head into bed. But I got something for you.
Alright everybody, it’s been a fun day, a long day. I am beat up and tired and ready to go pass out. But I’m out here trying to get a bottle of water because I am parched. We’re about probably 3 or 4 weeks away from our kitchen being done with the remodel so we can move back into our house, which is going to be oh so nice. I cannot wait.
So typically, it’s interesting, this is kind of off topic sort of. Still on topic though. So typically when I’m doing everything throughout the day, I do really, really, really, really good. I do intermittent fasting, so I don’t eat breakfast in the morning. I take about a billion vitamins and supplements in the morning and I feel like I’m glowing. I feel tons of energy and I feel really, really good. When I do eat during the day, Melanie, my assistant makes me this huge salad. It’s a, I don’t know, 1600 calorie salad with spinach and kale and salmon and peppers and oil and avocados and it’s the most amazing thing ever. I eat that all day long and then I’m full and not hungry the rest of the day.
Then at night I’ll eat just whatever my wife makes, I’ll eat just the meat and vegetables out of it, and that’s it. And I feel really, really good and I get through the day. It’s just like I can get so much stuff done. I was joking recently, on an earlier podcast about funnel years. How each day is a funnel year, anyway, how much stuff we can get done in a day.
Today was Saturday and my wife had a church thing that she was going to be at all day, so I was playing dad. So this morning I woke up and started good, and then my wife had bought Lucky Charms. Lucky Charms, I don’t know about you but that is by far the best cereal in the history of mankind. In fact, when I was a kid, we used to get Lucky charms, then we found out we could Marshmallow Matey’s which came in the bigger bags. Every year for Christmas we’d get one sugar cereal from Santa Claus. So we’d always want Marshmallow Mateys. So all the kids in my family would get our own bag of Marshmallow Mateys, and then get a salad bowl and fill the whole thing up with Marshmallow Mateys and spend like five hours eating all the oats out of it, and then at the end drinking all the milk with the marshmallows. It was insanely good. In fact, last year for Christmas I trained my kids on how to do that, because the tradition has now been officially passed on.
Anyway, for some insane reason, my wife didn’t just buy Marshmallow Mateys, she bought freaking Lucky Charms, which are the best thing ever. She bought two boxes of them. So today I’m eating my supplements and I look over and see a box of Lucky Charms, I’m like, I don’t got enough willpower to stop myself from Lucky Charms. I just don’t. That and cookie dough, I can’t say no. I won’t even attempt it, I won’t even try. So I’m like, done, boom. One bowl of Lucky Charms, two bowls of Lucky Charms. And then for me it’s a slippery slope. I’m like, I’m already on a carb binge today I might as well just go all out.
So then for lunch I was like, “Hey kids, let’s go out to eat.” So we went to a hamburger place and we had hamburgers and French fries and I ate everyone else’s French fries, they were really good. Then I came home and I was like, I could barely keep my eyes open and my whole body is shutting down. I’m like, I can’t keep my eyes open and my wife gets home and she’s tired because she’s been at this emotional thing all day, crying her eyes out and everything. And then the kids are like, “We’re hungry.” And I’m like, “Ugh.” And they’re like, “We want pizza.” And I’m like, “Sweet, get my phone.” And ordered Dominos pizza and chicken wings and that was amazingly good.
And then tonight there was a wedding reception so we went over and they had cheesecake, so today was a carb day. I pounded the carbs. But it’s funny because I am now walking back in and go to bed and I just want to, it’s kind of mostly for me, and hopefully for you guys as well. I feel like crap, my voice hurts, my throat hurts, my brain hurts, I have brain fog. I can’t focus, I can’t concentrate. I feel like ugh. My body hurts, my legs hurt, it’s just like ugh feeling.
And I know there’s a lot of entrepreneurs who are, that’s the fuel you’re putting in your bodies most days. If I put that fuel in my body, I don’t know how I could get anything done. I got nothing done today, other than playing with the kids. I feel like crap, like garbage.
Anyway, I just wanted to put it out there. First off, for me to remember what I feel like now. A lot of time we associate the pleasure on our taste buds, with the food we eat. We eat Lucky Charms and we’re like, this tastes so good. But I want to consciously remember this, that I feel right now, because I want to associate this with carbs so I quit eating them. Because they just thrash you and destroy you and make you feel like garbage.
So for those of you guys that I’m competing against, please keep eating crap. I love it. It makes it so I can get more done in a week than you can get done in a day. But for the rest of you guys who I’m coaching and consulting and I want you to succeed, look at your diet. Seriously shift how you are eating. If you’re trying to figure out how to eat for energy, a couple of things I would recommend. Number one, Google intermittent fasting. That’ll change your entire day around, even if you’re not trying to lose weight. Just shifting so you don’t eat in the morning, fats in the afternoon, and carbs at night. It will keep your energy high throughout the day, so you can compete and do well.
And then the Bulletproof diet is really, really good. Most of you guys know I’m Mormon, so I don’t drink coffee, but there’s different ways to make that. But anyway, Dave Asprey, his whole mission and stuff is really, really good. I love his stuff, minus the coffee. But you can do Bulletproof other things in the morning if you want, or you can do coffee if that’s what you like to do as well. But that whole concept of high fats, I strongly, strongly believe in that. It’s been a huge thing that’s helped me succeed as an entrepreneur.
The last one is Anthony DiClementi’s Biohacker’s Guide, which is another amazing book. It gives a ton of ways to eat for energy and other things for energy as well. So anyway, it’s just some help you guys. If you’re struggling, and it’s hard to get through the days and it’s hard to focus and have concentration and you just want to go out and thrash everyone, think about the fuel you’re putting in your body. Because this right now, how I feel right now is a testament of what Lucky Charms, the devil….I think I also had Lucky Charms for dinner. I may have had some for lunch too. Box number two is almost gone. Look at this thing. Lucky Charms, are you kidding me.
That’s why I don’t like my wife to go shopping sometimes. She buys all the good stuff that I can’t say no to. Anyway, so just think about that. The fuel you put in your body is effecting how you’re competing. This business is a game, it’s competition and I know that the athletes out there understand that, but a lot of people who maybe have not been in athletics, don’t understand that. You’re in competition, you’re competing with people like me who are obsessed with this kind of stuff. And what you put in your body does matter.
So look at that, figure it out. Even if you don’t want to lose weight. I doesn’t matter about losing weight, it’s about keeping your brain sharp for 8, 10, 12 hours a day so you can get a lot of crap done and accomplish what you want to do, so you can serve the people you need to serve. So there you go guys, I hope that helps.
I’m going to bed tonight, I’m going to crash and tomorrow I’ll be back on cue, because I got a big week coming up. If I survive this week, it’s going to be 90% diet, 10% motivation, 30% inspiration, and a whole bunch of happy thoughts in the middle. That’s not 100%, that’s way over. Anyway, it’s going to be fun. Alright guys, I’m out. See you tomorrow. Bye.
What I realized that’s holding people back from taking the next step in their business.
On this episode Russell talks about what the secret is to go from a million dollars annually to ten million to a hundred million. Here are some informative things in today’s episode:
So listen here if you want to be grow your business from a million dollars a year to ten million and even one hundred million!
What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. You guys are catching me at a rare time where I’m actually doing housework. My wife is gone and a couple of my kids are at naps or birthday parties, and I gotta do a couple of chores. So I was working on them and listening to a podcast, thinking and all the sudden I was like, I gotta share this. So we’re doing an impromptu Marketing Secrets podcast.
Alright you guys. I’ve got someone in our coaching programs who I love and care about and respect and someone who has had a lot of successes. Two Comma Club winner for sure, sorry my wife’s license plate thingy broke and it’s been flapping out and it’s been like 6 months and she keeps hinting toward the fact that it needs to be fixed. So I’m finally taking the hint, I get it hun, I love you.
Alright, so I’m fixing her thing while we’re talking. Anyway, this person launched a webinar and got it to a million bucks and then kind of transitioned to, and I think loved the market and the thing initially and then kind of fell out of love with it, and because of that transitioned to a new product. He created the product, did the ads, launched another webinar, had success there, and then another one and has kind of transitioned a couple……and that person is kind of frustrated because they’re like, “I’m stuck at a million bucks a year.” And they want to grow, they want to get to $10 million, not because of the money but because of the impact. They want to grow and there’s goals, and how do I get to $10 million a year?
And they’re frustrated and I was just thinking, and they messaged me yesterday so I was talking to them and thinking through it and then for the last day or so it’s just been in my mind, resonating. What’s wrong? This person has all the skill set, they have all the talents, they have all the abilities. Why are they not getting to the next level? What’s the thing?
So I started thinking back about what I’m going to be speaking a lot about at Funnel Hacking Live, but the process of going zero to a million, a million to ten, and ten to a hundred. Sorry, I’m such not a handy man, I can’t figure out how to get these things to work…..so that was my thoughts, we know that from going zero to a million it’s all about figuring out the what and the how. What are you selling that people actually want to buy? And how are you selling it? Are you doing it through a webinar, are you doing it through Amazon? What’s the thing?
And after you figure out the what, this is what I’m selling, and this is how the people want to buy it, what typically happens is then your business explodes really, really fast. I tell people that they know when they’ve hit their what and their how because they’ll go from zero to a million dollars really, really fast. Dan Henry is a good example. As soon as he figured out his what and his how, he went zero to a million in five months. It’s a pretty simple concept. But it takes a while initially. Some people spend their whole life figuring out the what and the how.
Sometimes they figure out what to sell, they’ve got the coolest product ever, but they can’t figure out how to sell it. Or they know how to sell, they just don’t have the right product. Things like that. So for this person, they’ve done that multiple times, they figured out the what and how and made it up to a million dollars, and then they shifted to the next thing. And I was in that cycle for like 12 years, so I’m probably a good coach for this, because I’ve done it, a lot. I had a lot of good businesses, but nothing that was great.
So, I can’t fix this license plate, I’m giving up. I tried, I get brownie points for trying right.
So the what and the how, I started thinking, I was like, okay zero to a million’s what and how, from a million to ten is all about the backend and frontend funnels. The frontend funnels bring more leads in, the backend funnels go deep inside that thing. All the sudden I had this epiphany. I was like, oh my gosh this is it. So I started thinking about Clickfunnels. Clickfunnels for example, as you guys know the thing, I had five or six different funnels that I had tried before we had the one that hit. And the one that hit was the Funnel Hacks webinar, it was just like boom and blew up.
Now if you look at fast forward now, Clickfunnels has been live for a little over three years. Almost three years, I don’t know. Something like that. So almost three years and what’s interesting, if you look at and do the actual math of the Funnel Hacks course, $997. We sold about 10,000-ish copies, a little more than that, but let’s say 10,000 for numbers sake. So that means ten million dollars we made from the webinar, which is awesome. Anyone else has a ten million dollar webinar, that’s great. But a ten million dollar webinar comes and goes. I’d say it’s probably one of the best of the best of our industry, but that wouldn’t have been that good of a story. “Russell made ten million bucks.”
If you look at that now, we will, where are we now, we’re in September. By November Clickfunnels will have passed a hundred million dollars in collected sales. I know because I have this countdown clock, where every single day my accountant lets me know how much further we are away from that. Because I want to know how long it took us to go from zero to a hundred million dollars. And we’re close, we’ll hit it this year for sure, it’ll be in November. So that’s exciting, right.
But I was looking, and the webinar only made ten million. That means the extra 90 million came from something else. So where did that stuff come from? And that’s when it came to going deep. Going from zero to a million is all about the what and the how. From a million to ten is about the frontend and the backend funnels. So frontend is more ways to bring leads in, so we had the books, Expert Secrets, Dotcom Secrets, The Perfect Webinar, things like that to bring leads into the business. Clickfunnels.com is a frontend, all this stuff like that.
Then you’ve got the backend funnels, you’re going deep. So what’s cool about it is I started selling other things related to funnels. So there’s so much stuff I could share with you guys, but if you read the Expert Secrets book, we talked about opportunity switch and then opportunity stack. So every business you only have one switch. So I switch people into funnels and I stack things within that market. And when we do this correctly we have compounding interest. I’m going to explain that here in a minute. But I switched over to like where someone comes into Clickfunnels, then we’ve got other products and services to help them better at that thing that we opportunity switched them into.
So we switched them into funnels and then we’ve got Funnel Scripts, we’ve got Fill Your Funnel, which is our traffic course. We’ve got our certification program, we’ve got our Clickstart funnel for people getting started in clickfunnels. We have Clickfunnels, we have software for crying out loud. We have all these other things, that are all tied back to funnels, so that’s how we were able to go super, super deep.
And for this person, the problem they had is they got to a million dollars and they just switched. And then they got to a million dollars and they switched. And they keep kind of switched opportunities on the person, they switched what they’re doing, they’re switching their focus, switching their branding. And I have nothing against that, I did that as well. If I would have stuck with the very first thing I would have done, we never would have Clickfunnels probably. Todd would have figured it out eventually, I’m sure.
But that’s the thing, you gotta figure out that what and how. Not only for your customers, because again, you figure out the what and the how for your customers, boom, you’re at a million bucks fast. But then it’s like, is this the business I want to be in forever? I didn’t want to be teaching micro continuity forever. I didn’t want to teach 12 Month Millionaire forever. All my first million dollar projects, there was a whole bunch of them. I think there were 7 or 8 that we had that were million dollar winners in the early days. We’d hit a million bucks and then it was kind of stale and I’d switch to the next thing and next thing and next thing.
And to get from a million to the ten to the hundred is about focusing deep. And one of the major reasons why, number one is because of compounding interest. Again, I’m not a finance guy, so my finance people out there know this way better than me. But some famous dude said that the greatest invention in the world is compounding interest. And the same thing is true with compounding customers. Every single person who buys the Expert Secrets book, or the Dotcom Secrets book, or watches the webinar, or buys Clickfunnels, I am switching those people.
All those, the goal of every single one of them, just to be completely transparent with no hidden agenda, the goal of all of those is to convince people that their new opportunity, their vehicle is funnels. So I’m convince, hey you’re an expert you need a funnel. Hey, you have an internet business, you’re a Dotcom Secrets book, you need a funnel. Hey, perfect webinar, you need a funnel. Hey Clickfunnels, you need a funnel. That’s my only goal. I want to be completely up front. All my frontend funnels, that’s the goal. To convince people that wherever I’m grabbing at, that they need a funnel.
In fact, I’m working right now on a report called NetworkMarketingSecrets.com, yes I own the domain. How cool is that? And that’s the whole reason for that frontend, to convince every network marketer on earth that they need a funnel. And I’m doing the same thing for other markets. That’s my whole thing.
Now as soon as someone believes that they need a funnel, which they do. Then I’m stacking, I’m compounding on top of that. So then I compound, if you have a funnel you need Funnel Scripts. If you have a funnel, you need Traffic Affiliate Funnel, you may need to become certified, you may need this…..So that everything else is just opportunity stacking within the opportunity I switched people into.
So if you’re looking at your business and you’re stuck at one to three million bucks, which is kind of where a lot of….I was stuck at for a decade. I understand this world. It’s because we keep switching our customers. We keep opportunity switching them. We’re switching them from opportunity to opportunity to opportunity, and what happens after a while, they kind of lose faith in you. They’re like, this person is telling me all these other things.
The reason why we’ve done more in the last three years than the prior decade, times like 5, is because everything I’m doing, people look at it and they’re like, “Russell’s still preaching the same thing. Funnels are the key. There’s this other thing, how to get traffic in your funnels. Oh that makes total sense. Oh, here’s the live event teaching more funnels.” Everything we’re doing is stacking upon that. So it’s not like I’m switching people from opportunity to opportunity, I’m saying, “Look, you chose the right road, this is the path, the new opportunity to focus on. I’m just going to give you more tools and assets to amplify your experience and make it better for you.”
That’s how went from a million to ten to a hundred is that part. Funnels are awesome but I make money off Clickfunnels, I make money off Funnel Scripts, I make money…..all these other pieces that lead more people into it.
That was what I told this person. I came back and said, “Look, I think the biggest problem is not that you don’t have the skills, you do. It’s not that you don’t have a great product, you do. It’s that if you were so passionate about that market when you hit a million dollars, you would have went deeper. Like what software can I create for these people? What certifications? What events? You would have gone deeper trying to think of those things, which are the backend funnels, which where the majority of profit, for me it’s where the other 90 million dollars came from.” But because they weren’t as passionate about it, the made the million bucks, they figured out the what and the how for their customers, but it wasn’t right for them.
If it was right for them, they would have sat there all day long and thinking about how they can serve this customer more? What else do they need? What else do they want? They would have heard the person’s voice over and over and over again and they would have known.
Clickfunnels came out of me knowing, we heard people talk about funnels all the time. All these other things are people telling us over and over again what they want, what they need. So we’re creating those things for them and that’s how the business grows and grows and grows.
I think that’s the key, figuring out the what and the how for your customer, but also making sure it’s the what for you. Because if it’s the wrong business for you, if it’s not something you’re geeking out about, you’ll keep switching, and that’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with that. You don’t have to hit the perfect business the first time. A lot of times, getting from zero to a million the first time is about you getting the skill set and understanding the market and learning all these kind of things.
But at the same time if you’re going there and you’re at a million bucks and you’re like, “I’m not happy here.” That’s okay. It’s okay to back up and shut it down and figure it out. You’ve got all the skills, the hard part done. It’s easier to re-figure out. You just gotta figure out what it is that you’re so insanely passionate about, what market segment, what people, what problem do you want to solve so much so that it’s going to keep you up at night trying to figure out the next thing. What else do I create? What’s the next product? What software do they need? What events? What other training? If they bought this course, what’s the next thing they need?
And that’s, I think, the key. So anyway, I just got excited because I was talking to this person and sharing that with them, this whole idea of compounding interest. That’s the coolest thing. Every single person that buys one of my books, they come into my world and now they’re going to buy the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. You look at all the other revenue, it’s all free. I don’t have to pay for that customer. All those kind of things, so it just keeps growing and growing and growing. As opposed to when you have different things in different markets, things like that. It doesn’t compound.
That was my problem before, we had 12 companies we launched in a 12 month period of time. I wish it was once a month, but we were launching 12 at once. So it was even worse. But the interesting thing is just thinking about, anyone who bought the couponing product would never buy any of the other products, that was the biggest mistake. And then people who bought the weight loss product never bought the other ones. And it was just like, that was the issues. It wasn’t compounding. We had to re-create customers every single time.
I think the first time I understood it, I was hanging out with Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher, they had a whole bunch of businesses and I think I’d kind of strayed away from this because they went deep into the survival market, then they did it within survival and stuff like that. But what Ryan told me, “Anytime we launch another business, one of our rules is that our existing customer base, they have to be wanting to buy it. So that way we’ve got free traffic. Everything is compounding. If someone buys from this business they might also buy from this one as well.”
And while I agree with that, I would go a step deeper and not do it just in the same market, not just parallel markets, I’d just pick one market and then opportunity stack as deep as you can go.
Anyway, that’s what I got, it’s hot here in the garage. Hopefully it’s not too echo-y. I’m going to go figure out how to try and fix this license plate for my wife. So she’ll be impressed with me. That’s the goal. Just so all the women out there know, men’s only real purpose in life is to try to impress their spouse. That’s it. We’re good with everything else. So I’m going to try to do that so when she gets home she will be impressed. Anyway, appreciate you guys, thanks for listening and I’ll talk to you guys all again soon. Bye.
My new formula for getting your message in front of the masses.
On today’s episode Russell talks about what he has done to be able to connect with a broader audience of entrepreneurs. Here are the awesome things you will find in this episode:
So listen here to find out how Russell connected with a larger audience and what the plan for the future with them is.
Good morning, good morning everybody. Welcome to Marketing Secrets. We are now watching right now Studio C, which made me think of something really funny, and that’s why we’re kicking off this episode of this podcast.
Alright everybody, it’s a Saturday. We are less than a week away from our big viral video launch. There’s so many more pieces going into it, it’s kind of crazy. We’ve got, I’m a little stressed out, I’m not going to lie. We’ve got a sales page, the demo sequence, the onboarding, the offboarding, the gamification, the show me how walk through’s, all going live in the next six days.
The program too is coming out on Monday, which I’m excited for. And then in between there we also happen to have a three day event. It’s so funny. Yesterday we were filming a video thing for Funnel Hacker TV, we were talking about funnel years and how each funnel year is one day. So it’s like, oh we’ve got like four funnel years before the next live event. And we’ve got six funnel years before the viral video launch. We’ve got plenty of time. So start saying that guys, everyday in the real world is a funnel year because you more done in a year than most people get done in a day, if you’re using Clickfunnels.
I actually have something I want to talk to you about today. I’ve been watching, ever since this whole viral video thing, it’s been fun this whole new science of marketing that’s been opened up my mind, that was different before. It was funny, we were hanging out with the Harmon Brothers, and these guys are script writers and all sorts of stuff and I’m talking about copywriting. I was like, “Who’d you guys study?” They’re like, “What do you mean?” I’m like, “I don’t know, Gary Halvert, did you listen to Vince Vanga? Who are the guys you studied for copywriting?” They’re like, “Who’s Gary Halvert?” I’m like, “What?” and they’re like, “yeah, I don’t know who that is.” I’m like, “What about Dan Kennedy? What about….” And I’m naming off the legends, all these things and they’re like, “Never heard any of them.”
I’m like, “How are you guys the best video copywriters on earth and you never heard of copy?” It’s just so funny. They’re like, “We just…” They get sketch comedy writers who are really funny and then they try to weave sales principles into it. It’s funny because it’s just interesting. One thing they said is that, “We just go Kickstarter and all the best Kickstarter campaigns and watch those videos. What are they doing? What’s consistently working?” If I was trying to train again in copywriting I’d be like, “Go to Kickstarter and watch like 8,000 videos and you’ll learn good copy.”
It’s interesting. Then one of our main writers for our script was Matt Meese from Studio C, which if you don’t know what Studio C is, that’s what I was just watching a minute ago. Go watch Studio C. It’s like the best show on TV, it’s like Saturday Night Live, but it’s a bunch of Mormons who do it, so it’s clean and family friendly. It’s awesome. You guys will love it, it’s awesome. But it’s the same thing. The guys who write the scripts for Studio C, they’re some of the best copywriters in the world and they don’t even know what copy is, they just know how to engage people and grab intention and interest and desire. They’ve learned it through a different format, which is cool.
Anyway, with that said, it’s been fun. I’ve been trying to think of different ways to grab people and get them. My first test is, it’s been interesting, this is my podcast you guys are listening to. So I do the podcast, and sometimes I do a podcast and I don’t hear much and other times I do a podcast and I get all these messages from people who are like, “Thank you. It was so awesome.” Sorry that’s my pool over there making a lot of noise, I’m going to come on this side.
For example, the entrepreneurial scars podcast I did, tons of, people messaging me from everywhere, “Thank you that was so cool.” Entrepreneurs struggling with vacations, that one hit. And there’s a whole bunch of them that people resonate with more than other ones for some reason. So I was thinking, podcast is a really cool format to teach and train and get inside people’s minds and I love it. But it’s not, podcasts are hard to share, it’s hard for them to go viral, those kind of things. So I was like, I’m going to start taking the podcasts I have that have the most impact and people connect with the most and I’m going to try to turn those into a video, a viral video that will call out my people.
If this is resonating with people so much so that they are able to get a hold of me, which is not easy. I have a lot of walls every direction, but if they get to me it means it was worth focusing on. The entrepreneurs struggling on vacation, when I was in Hawaii with my wife, I was like I’m just going to record a little video of this, and instead of it being off the cuff, like I am right now. I was like I’m going script it out and write a minute and a half, two minute video about why entrepreneurs suck at going on vacations.
So I wrote the script, set up a camera at the beach house, recorded this thing, got home and had Kevin on our team go through and make a little viral video thing, it had music and energy and just kind of…. It’s probably more produced than some of the others I’m going to test. Sometimes less produced do better. Anyway, who knows. But if you look at it, it was not me talking about funnels. Funnels is my world, but I needed to go a level bigger if I want to go semi viral, or niche viral, whatever they call it. I needed it to go one level bigger so that it would grab my people.
So for me, I want entrepreneurs who are selling stuff through funnels. That’s my dream to get people, but a lot of entrepreneurs don’t know that yet, so I gotta connect with them at a level we can connect at. So I’m going to call out entrepreneurs. So entrepreneurs, I think the video title is like, “Why entrepreneurs suck at vacations.” In fact, I had the audio a couple of episodes back, so you guys who are listening to the audio podcast heard it last…A week ago today actually. But you can just hear it, it’s me at the beach house, doing it. It’s calling out entrepreneurs, calling out my people and then trying to have them connect with me.
So I did the video, put it together, we launched it and you know it’s not like, 18 million views or anything like that, but I think we’re at 70 or 80 thousand views in the last 7 days, which is awesome. That means 70 thousand entrepreneurs have connected with me. And the comments are crazy. “Oh my gosh, you understand me. That’s how I feel too.” And they’re tagging their wives, and friends, and kids and all sorts of stuff. It’s just cool. It connected, all these entrepreneurs I’m connected with now, they’re like, “Who’s this weird dude that I connected with?” Now they shift from being just entrepreneurs to entrepreneurs who now read the book or whatever and get deeper and deeper with me, and eventually they are building funnels, which is where I want everybody to be. Because that’s how you change the world, you build funnels.
Anyway, I just thought it was interesting. I’m going to be doing more of those, I’m going to be doing, probably the next one will be entrepreneurial scars. I might go down to the courthouse or something and record it there, be like bankruptcy or I don’t know, I gotta write a script for it first.
I just thought it was a really cool thing. The reason I’m telling you this is I want you guys to think about this. Think about the thing that you’re selling. So whatever it is you’re selling, try to go one step broader. So that more mass appeal. Who are the people you would love to have buy your thing, even though they’re not ready yet, so go one level deeper. Who are those people? And then what message do you have that they would be like, “Yes, you get me. That’s me.” That’s what we’re looking for. And then try to make a little video speaking to those people, so they’ll connect with you.
So for example, vacations. Entrepreneurs suck at vacations because we want to get back to work. Entrepreneurs relate to that. That’s how I called out my people and they’re connecting now and it’s really, really cool. So for you, how do you call out your people? Who are your people, first off? You’re product, going one step broader than that, so people that don’t know who you are yet, but they would connect with you. Does that make sense? Hopefully that makes sense.
So for me, I’m not talking about necessarily marketers, I’m talking about entrepreneurs. Marketers are people who get what we do, they understand, that’s why Marketing Secrets podcast, that’s why all these things….You guys are marketers, you understand, you’re excited about selling it. You guys will resonate with the message no matter what, so I’m trying to go one level bigger so that it has the ability to go more viral, but also has the ability to connect with more people. Then bring them down into our funnels, into our world.
So this is what Fill Your Funnel, this is the front of the value ladder, this is how you’re casting a wider net and bringing them in. So you’re figuring out who are your people, calling them out and then what are things that you believe that they would resonate with. That the rest of the world would think is really, really weird. Honestly, it’s funny when I was making that video. I was really concerned because my wife was there, I was like, “I don’t want to offend her.” But that’s how I feel. And I know other entrepreneurs feel this way, I’ve talked to them about it. People tell me all the time. I go on vacation and people are like, “How was your vacation?” I’m like, “It was good, so glad to be back so I can stop stressing out.” Which is just, I know that that’s how I always felt.
So think about what are the things that you feel because of what you do, or because of who you are, that other people like you will resonate with, but the rest of the world will think you’re weird. That’s who you’re looking for, those kind of things. And then create something around that and just put it out there. Who knows. It may go viral, it may not. It doesn’t really matter, but just do it.
So for me, I’m going to try to do it once or twice a month. Try to pick a podcast episode I’ve done, or come up with an idea, or something that’s just like, here’s a cool story I can tell that the entrepreneurs will connect with and will get them to like me, follow me, friend me, whatever. And then through the process I can get them to buy the book, get into the culture, etc, etc, etc.
I hope that helps you guys. If you haven’t seen the video yet, again the audio podcast was a few episodes back, “Why Entrepreneurs Suck At Vacation” if you go to Facebook.com/RussellBrunsonHQ, that’s my fan page, you can see the video there for sure. Or at this point, probably if you Google, “Why do entrepreneurs suck at vacations” It’ll probably show up, who knows. But it’s worth watching and sharing and tagging your family and friends on it.
Hope that helps you guys. I’m going to go back in and watch some Studio C with my kids, because it’s amazing. Here it is, right here. You can see it back there if you’re watching on the TV show. Awesome sketch comedy gives you good idea for writing copy, and it’s really fun. So thanks guys, I’ll see you later. Bye.