This is when, what we do, becomes a really fun game.
On today’s episode Russell talks about how many copies of the book have sold in the first 6 days and what his goal is. He also talks about how making tweaks to your funnel after it’s up and running can help you beat the control.
Here are some cool things in this episode:
So listen below to find out how you can make a good funnel even better after it’s been up and running for a few days.
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Hey everyone, this is Russell. Welcome to a rainy, very rainy Marketing In Your Car. I just dropped off Dallin, my oldest twin who is my son who loves extracurricular activities, at dance class, early morning. So heading back into the office now and excited.
So the book launch has been live for I think, almost 6 days now. And in 6 days we sold a little over 20 thousand books. What? Crazy. Last year it took us the entire month to sell 20 thousand. I don’t even think we got to 20 thousand, we were close to 20 thousand. I can’t remember exact numbers back then.
It was pretty exciting for us and we haven’t even pulled out the big guns yet. Those who are watching, some crazy stuff’s happening. At 20 thousand and I think we should hit at least 50 or 60 thousand books sold, which is really cool. So I’m really proud and excited for that.
So I’m heading into the office right now because a bunch of things are happening. In fact, the number one thing, well it’s interesting, I don’t know about you but when you’re in the middle of a book launch, launching a million things at once, which we’ve obviously been doing. So my stress levels are a little higher than typical, not stress levels but you know what I mean. Just a lot of stuff happening. It’s been interesting, I think it’s almost like you’re so close to something that you can’t, you don’t know what to do.
So the book launch has been going really well, in fact, our average cart value right now is about $34. So for everyone who buys the book, on average we make about $34 in the funnel, which is great. We keep thinking, how do we make it better, how do we make it better? There’s got to be a way to make it better. I’ve been blank. I don’t even know what to do. I look at it like, ahhh I got nothing.
So anyway, I bought a thing called a float tank a while ago, it’s in my house and I hardly ever use it. I feel bad. In fact, I clean it more often than I use it, it’s kind of a pain to keep. Looking back now, I definitely would not get a float tank in my house. But they are cool. I promise you, somewhere in your hometown, there’s probably a float tank place. If you Google float tank and your city I bet you’ll find one. But basically it’s a huge salt sensory deprivation tank. It’s like a thousand pounds of salt, so you lay and float on the top and sit there. Typically I do my float tank, I go in there and listen to music or listen to CD’s or talks or whatever. But this time for some reason the music thing wasn’t playing, and this is Saturday night, yes Saturday night. Went in there and music thing wasn’t going to work. I was like, ahhh whatever, I’ll just try to focus and do my whole meditation thing. And I’m not a very good meditate-er at all, by any stretch.
But I sat there and laid there and tried to focus on my breathing, and tried to think about the major things. And it was cool because the first time, I think I had time to reset and not be in the motion of everything. I just sat there for like an hour. I sat there for 45 minutes, and I passed out and woke up when my alarm went off. But I didn’t get any great ideas while I was sitting in there, but I feel like it was a flush. Like a cleanse or something because then when I went back inside, it was probably like 11 o’clock at this time, maybe almost 12 o’clock.
A float tank when you, an hour in the float tank feels like you slept for 5 or 6 hours, so I felt really good. I got up and was like huh. So I ended up staying up til like 2 or 3 in the morning. The next day I had church, which was yesterday, I’m at church and all the sudden the ideas started flowing. I was like, what? Where are these coming from. And it was almost like there was a blockage and that flushed it and then all the sudden it was like, it just started flowing and I’m sitting there and I’m like, oh my gosh I can’t even keep up with these. So in church I tried to pay attention and listen and be good, while I’m taking notes, I can’t forget this stuff. This is really good crap, I gotta make sure I won’t forget it.
So I’m like typing in my notepad and try to go back out and focus and then all the sudden it’s like, keep flooding in the ideas. It was like, gall, this is so cool. So I got this huge flood of inspiration. So this morning I woke up early, at 5:00, which I’m already hurting really bad. It’s 8:30 and I can barely keep my eyes open. I don’t know, this is going to be a long week I think. But I got up and started re-tweaking our funnels. Our average cart value right now, I think, what did I just say? 34 or 36, I can’t remember exactly what it was as of this morning. My goal is to get to 40, and I think I can and I have some ideas.
So I’m going to be plugging in all these split tests and different things. I’m actually going to record two different upsell videos right now. Because I think I figured out what I messed up on, which is so cool. It’s the part I love about funnels. So for anyone that’s got funnels that don’t work, you need funnels that do work. I want to stress this process. I talked about it at Funnel Hacking Live, and I’m going to talk more and more about it. In fact, if I ever happen to do book three, hopefully I never do. But if I happen to do it, this will be the premise of it. Not the premise, but the beginning of it, understanding this piece of it.
So basically, we drive traffic, we spend time, and we look at the numbers. Based on the numbers we try to figure out, now we know what it is, how do we make it better? It’s interesting, if you look at the copywriting world, what will happen is that, big companies like Agora and Boardroom and things like that, where they’re very copy intensive and they hire the best copywriters in the world. The copywriter, whoever writes the copy is called the control. They get a royalty on that control as long as it wins. But as soon as the control is written, all these other writers come in and try to beat it, beat the control.
So they’re all trying to write different headlines, intros, hooks, angles, different things to beat your control. They’re not rewriting the whole letter, they’re just taking what you already had and trying to figure out what can increase it. And if they win, then they get the royalties. So that’s everyone’s job, just try to beat the control. It’s almost like for us, after you get the funnel launched and live and everything, it’s coming back and saying how do I beat the control? And then trying to figure that out.
So it’s cool, you can step back and look at all the pieces. So I look at over the last 6 days, and I sold a lot of books, but we got a lot of data. What’s our opt in percentage, and how many people are actually putting in their credit card? How many people are buying the Black Box versus the book? How many people are buying the order form bump? How about the upsells? The downsells? Then looking at comments on Facebook and other things and trying to see where are the sticking points.
After you identify those, then it’s not that hard to come back and tweak it and shift it. So I’m excited today, to try to retweak those. Amongst the fact that we also are doing another 20 Facebook lives today to promote the book. So it’s going to be kind of crazy. But that’s kind of the game plan. So that’s what I’m doing today. I hope you guys are doing it as well.
Look at your funnels and try to beat your control because it’s a fun game. And if you’re too close, like I was, go rent a float tank for an hour, go float in it, who knows? Maybe like me all day, start flushing out. Or find someone else on your team and have them try to beat the control. Or hire someone and say, “If you beat my control, I’ll pay 100 bucks a try, or I’ll pay you a thousand if you beat it.” Or whatever, and just have people start making it a game, because that’s when it starts getting really, really fun.
Anyway, this week I’m going to take you guys on some fun journeys. We’re actually going to, if you know who the Harmon Brothers are, if you’ve ever seen the Squatty potty commercial, or Fiber Fix, or Snap Books, or any of the awesome viral videos, we’re working with them to write a script for Clickfunnels, so I’m heading down to Utah tomorrow, I think. So I’ll take you on the journey and tell you all the cool stuff I learn along the way as well, hanging out with those guys. Anyway, I’m at the office, going to get some work done, create some videos, make some funnels, try to beat my control and that’s going to be fun. So we’ll talk to you guys soon.
The method behind my new blog, podcast, and YouTube channel.
On today’s episode Russell talks about how many book sales he has so far. He also talks about the new blog he is doing and how he plans to have time to do it, and how he’ll keep it consistent.
Here are some of the coolest things you will hear in this episode.
So listen below to find out if Russell will beat or match his goal number of books sold in the first week.
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Good morning everybody. Guess what? Guess what? First off, it’s raining outside, which is cool. Second off, I’m heading to the office which is cool. And third off, it’s been a little over 24hours since we launched the book and guess what? We sold over 10 thousand copies! What?
Honestly, my goal when we first got started was 10 thousand copies the first week. Because last time it took us almost a month to sell 10 thousand copies, like, “If we did it in a week that would be amazing.” We did it yesterday. It wasn’t quite 24 hours, it was 27, technically it was a little longer than a day, but I’m counting it. I’m calling it 10 thousand in a day, because that’s what we did.
Anyway, so insane. Everyone who first off, bought, thank you everyone who promoted, thank you to everyone who’s continuing to promote, that’s awesome. This morning I woke up, we were at 12,500 books and it just keeps on rolling. So I’m just going to keep on rolling and see what with the Dotcom Secrets book either we’re almost or we just hit 100,000 copies or somewhere in there, total for the last 2 ½ years. So I think with this momentum we’re going to hit 100,000 copies this month. That was our initial goal, which I thought was kind of farfetched but now I’m like, “Dang, I wonder if we actually could.” Which is crazy and exciting all wrapped up into one amazing thing. Anyway, that’s kind of what’s happening over here on this side of the world. It’s just insanely cool.
Alright, so today I want to talk about, I think I’ve talked about this before, mentioned it, but I’m trying to get it live today. It’s technically it’s kind of live, I didn’t mean to get it live, but I forgot I made a new footer graphic, and everyone in the footer started clicking in, so now technically it’s live because there’s comments and things happening.
First off, the nice thing with Clickfunnels now is you can save sections. So I created a cool footers section, that I’m putting on all of my pages. Actually there’s two footers. There’s a footer for my main pages, and then there’s a mini footer for sales and upsell pages. So anyway, there’s two footers, but I designed them perfectly and now I just, every page I make, I just go to add it, boom, boom, boom and then they’re on all the pages.
So the one above it, it links to my new blog, which is a journey of how I went from zero to a million copies of the book, which is kind of cool. I’m calling this a journey blog, which someone may have already called that, but I’m copying it. I initially saw Groove HQ do it with their software. They told this journey of how they went from zero to 100,000 MRR. And then I saw Neil Patel do it. Zero to 100,000 visitors a month on his blog. So I’m doing it, going from zero to a million copies of the book sold.
So I think I got the first 8 posts up there. For the last two months I’ve been doing these posts, one a week, kind of going through all the prelaunch stuff with the book. So it’s kind of cool, it’s this journey blog that takes you through this journey because I figure, I think blogging is boring because it’s just these random blog posts about whatever. But with a journey blog, it’s kind of like these podcasts. People tell me they listen to two or three episodes of the podcast, they get hooked and they go back to the very beginning and binge listen to every episode, which is kind of cool and hard to do when you have a two hour long show. That’s why I like doing these short ones.
You can go and you can binge listen and it’s the same with this blog. I want people coming in on week 22, reading something cool we did and be like, wait, there are 80 thousand books sold, how did they start this journey? They can start on page one and going through and boom, going through this whole timeline journey of zero to a million and binge read up the entire blog. So that’s kind of the goal with the blog, which I think is kind of cool. So you guys can see it, it’s at russellbrunson.com. I haven’t really started promoted it yet. So if you want to see it, I’m trying to get it all done today. Because I’m also adding links to all of our courses, our products, everything else I do on that blog. Just because right now, I don’t really have anywhere that has that.
People always ask me, “Where can I buy your stuff Russell?” I’m like, you have to randomly find a place. Soon it’ll be like, go to russellbrunson.com, my blog is there and you can find links to all of our products, events, training programs, software. So that’s kind of what’s happening over there. But it’s kind of fun.
So the journey blog is happening. We have a YouTube show that’s going to be happening. And obviously we have this podcast, and it’s kind of cool. I’m starting to get a way to publish in all these different platforms.
I’ve struggled for the last 14 years figuring that out. How do you blog? How do you video? How do you do all these different things? And it’s really figuring out for you if it’s something you can be consistent at. When I launched this podcast it was like something that, I call it Marketing In Your Car because, as you know, it’s the drive from my house to my office and I do that every day. And usually I don’t have time to do anything else. I’m driving. So it’s the perfect time for me to do. I know I consistently can do it. Which is why it’s been 350 or 400 episodes or whatever. Because it’s an easy thing for me to do.
The blog was hard for a long time, because I didn’t know how to blog or why to blog, and now I have a thing. It’s like, once a week I document what we did this week to sell a million copies of the book. It’s just like, “Oh I can do that.” I don’t actually write the blog. I hate Word Press. In fact, every time I log into Word Press, I don’t swear but if I were a swearing person I would be cursing. I hate it. So I figured it out. I got two guys on my team, Levi, who’s a really good writer. So I vox him my blog post. He logs in and writes the whole thing. And then Jake is a great designer comes in and designs it all up. Now I got a blog post. I’m a blogger.
All I do is I do one vox a week on Friday before I leave. Recapping what we did in the last week to sell a million copies of the book, which is super cool. Something I can actually consistently do. YouTube thing is the same thing. We’ve been trying to figure out a nice YouTube strategy and we’re about to launch a TV show called Funnel Hacker TV, which is insane. The only problem with it, it’s an hour long episode, and we’ve recorded 10 episodes the last year and then all this effort to get them all done and live. So they’re going to be going live in a little bit.
But I was like, my YouTube strategy can’t just be big hits, I need something in between so what I did is I bought this little Sony camera, this little handi-cam thing. And we’re calling Funnel Hacker TV behind the scenes show. So as I do everything throughout the day, I’m just carrying this little thing around recording and telling the story. “Okay, this is what’s happening. This is where we’re going.” Telling the story. Then there’s a dude I met, named Kevin who’s awesome. I just drop all the videos from the camera each night into drop box and he’s turns them into these cool shows. It’s like, I just gotta carry this camera with me and record stuff, and if I don’t feel like recording in the day, then I don’t. But if I try to 3 or 4 days a week to have actually cool stuff happening, drop it in the dropbox for him, he makes a video and now we’re….anyway, that’s going to be the YouTube channel that we’re launching soon.
So it’s kinda cool. I’ve got a couple different channels happening. I always tell people that you shouldn’t try to publish at 12 places right at the get go, but eventually you should be moving towards that. But mastering one channel first and then slowly adding things in as you can. But now that I’m getting into my daily routine, into my routine, it’s not super difficult or super hard. It’s just taking a little bit of time. It takes 6 minutes a day to do my podcast, it takes 10 minutes a week to do my blog and it takes an extra minute throughout the day each time I’m doing something, just kind of explain what I’m doing, instead of just doing it.
Anyway, it’s kind of cool. That’s what’s happening here. So there’s the timeline blogs, because that’s the next thing. YouTube channel will be next after that. Oh and then there’s other cool stuff. But I don’t want to get you guys overwhelmed. People are like, “You do too much stuff Russell.” I’m like, “No, I spend a year or 5 or 10 years figuring out how to plug it into my daily routine and then it’s not doing a lot of extra work. It’s just like oh.” “Russell, you’re a blogger now.” No, it literally takes me 10 minutes a week, so it’s not that hard.
Alright, with that said, hopefully you guys are thinking about your content plan and schedule and things. And figuring out a way to do it that you can be consistent with. I got one last hint for you guys, I’m not going to tell you the answer, but I’m going to give you a hint.
If you go to 2commaclub.com and I think it’s just the number 2commaclub.com, you’ll see our two comma club and all our members. And in the video I tell a story about somebody who for me, broke the four minute mile. Okay, I want you to go and watch that video because there’s a hint, something….I just purchased something related to that video and I can’t tell you what it is yet. But it’s insanely cool. I’ve only told one person ever and it’s Stu McLaren and I told him right before he did an interview yesterday, because I couldn’t hold it in anymore. No one else knows yet, it’s kind of top secret. People will find out two weeks from now. Anyway, watch that video, I purchased something insanely cool based on something I talk about in that video. That’s all you get, that’s the hint. Stay tuned for future episodes to find out the answer. But it’s super cool, and I can’t even wait to share with you guys. That’s all I got. Appreciate you all, have a fun day and I’m going to go work on my blog. Bye everybody.
A behind the scenes glimpse of what’s been happening the first twelve hours of our book launch.
In this episode Russell gives a quick recap of the first twelve hours of the book launch. He shares how he felt when it looked like the average cart value didn’t look how expected, and what happened next.
Here are the important things you will hear on today’s episode:
So listen below to find out how the big book launch turned out yesterday.
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What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome….oh crap. I almost just, backing out of my driveway I literally just almost backed into a wall. And you guys would have caught it live here on Marketing In Your Car.
I hope you guys are all doing awesome today. Today, well yesterday was book launch day. And today is the day after book launch day and I bet you’re wondering how it’s going. So I wanted to tell you.
As you probably know, actually I can’t remember exactly how much I told you guys. Leading to the book launch, as with any launch, there’s a lot of stress and time and energy and stuff that goes into it. So Monday night we basically were at the office super, super late. And then at 3 o’clock got done, went home and came back Tuesday. Luckily we set up the launch time for 4 eastern, which we had 2 o’clock our time. So we had til 2 o’clock to get everything done, which I highly recommend on launch day.
We used to launch days at 9am in the mornings. It was always a nightmare, so we push them out late in the day, that way you’ve got time in the morning. We had about 5 hours. Everyone got back out here at 9, so we had 9 til 2, so 5 hours to get everything done. And we start moving and scrambling and going and going. It’s crazy, no matter how much stuff you have, that’s why it’s good to pick a launch date, because otherwise you’ll never actually get done. Because we never would have gotten it done ever. Even staying up all night and all morning, everything, it still was I think 9 minutes late before the funnel went live.
It’s funny, because you have wish list stuff you want to do to make it smaller and smaller and smaller, til the point where you’re like, “Alright, this is what we HAVE to do.” And then it’s like, “Oh crap, it’s got to go live, what are the stuff we have to cut out?” and it’s just kind of crazy.
So you launch it and sit back and you wait. And this is honestly for me, the worst time. It’s weird because you feel like it’s going to be this huge climatic boom, but it’s like the opposite, you get this huge climatic thing and then it stops. And then you’re just like, “What’s happening?” and then we start sending emails, but because us and 8 million other affiliates are all emailing the same day from Actionetics, Actionetics gets backed up and our emails aren’t going out and all sorts of other stuff starts happening. But luckily a lot of people were waiting, anxiously waiting to buy. So book sales started coming in, boom, boom, boom.
So we’re watching the sales come in at first and then we’re watching the stats and numbers to see where things are at and obviously it’s hard because the first group of people to come through are your hyperactive buyers, it’s you guys and you guys jack up our stats. I don’t trust our stats that early. But it’s still you’re watching to see and be curious. So we’re watching all the stats and the stats looked good but there’s this new stat dashboard in Clickfunnels, I didn’t even know it was there. I remember we talked about it at Funnel Hacking Live, but I hadn’t seen it. So I clicked on it and it was amazing because you can see the sales from everything. Front end products, upsells, order form bumps. Everything. So you get a glimpse of here’s what everything is.
So I’m looking at it all, based on numbers it looked good. Then there’s this number up here that said, “average cart value.” And the average cart value number was horrible. And I was like, “huh?” I keep watching it and as one hour turned into two, and the average cart value number kept getting worse and worse. I was almost to the point of depression and honestly I was coming back to my team like, “Okay, what do we do? Do we go and add in a whole other upsell?” because the cart value wasn’t as high as we needed it to be and all these millions of things start going through your head, so I’m like, “ I don’t want to add another upsell.” because I wanted…. this funnel is, as we talked about in the last podcast, is a short funnel. There’s offers in there, but it’s a short funnel because I was trying to shorten it. But then there’s longer on the value size.
So over the next 21 days, where it monetizes amazing, but I don’t know if affiliates are short sighted typically. They’re not looking at 21 days, looking at what happed today. So it’s like, I need to be high enough to make sure affiliates were happy and all that kind of stuff. Totally stressing out, freaking out and trying to figure things out. And then I think Steven or someone was like, “I forgot to reset the stat data before it went live.” Which means all our test purchases were in there and everything. So it’s like huh, so I had John go and actually pull all the data. Delete all of the other purchases and he’s drawing a map and everything, looking at everything.
He came back and like, “Here’s our numbers.” Boom, boom, boom. “Based on our numbers our average cart value right now is $39.” And I was like, “What? No, the stats here say it was at $19.” And he’s like, “no, based on the actual numbers we’re at $39.” And I’m like, “Are you kidding me.” $39 is perfectly aligned with what we need to make this whole thing work. And all the sudden, it was funny, I went from wanting to cry and rebuild the whole funnel to, wait a minute this is exactly how we needed it to be. So there’s this huge sigh of relief. Then I’m like, “wait, make sure you’re right. Do the numbers again because I don’t want to be celebrating and then find out in an hour from now that I shouldn’t have been celebrating. So do the numbers again.”
“Yes, this is exactly what it is.” We looked at the numbers and it was like, oh thank heavens. There was one stat in our stat dashboard that wasn’t correct and then also a bunch of other data. But when all was said and done it was awesome. Then I was like, “This is awesome. Let’s put some fuel on the fire.” So I did a Facebook Live and started doing more stuff. Then finally all my emails started going out at like 6 or 7 at night. and now it’s been 12 hours and as of today we have sold, this morning it was 6300 copies of the book. What? My initial goal was 10,000 week one. And now Dave told me this morning our goal is 10,000 for the first 24 hours. So that’s about to happen.
So I’m going to go in there right now. I’m about to virtual book tour, which basically means I’ve got 15 people lined up today. We’re going to be doing Facebook Lives’ onto their audiences, they’re going to interview me about the book and when the interview is done, we’re going to logging onto their account, we’re going to be playing ads to promote that Facebook Live to their audience. Which is I think, the future of JV, but we’re the first to kind of really test it. So I’ll let you guys know how it works. But it’s basically going on a book tour, like real authors.
Real authors? I shouldn’t say that. If you look at traditional people, when the book comes out, what do they do? They go on Jay, I guess it’s not Jay Leno anymore. I haven’t watched TV for so long. They go on Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, The Today Show, they do the media network that way. So we’re doing that, but we’re kind of doing it through Facebook. So we’re doing Facebook Lives’ to people’s audiences.
Then affiliates typically don’t, I don’t know they’re short, I mean they’re amazing people and I’m the same way, but as affiliates, I make fun of myself, we’re kind of short sighted. We want to see cash immediately, and we don’t want to do anything for that cash. Because we don’t have to, we’re affiliates. We’re just good at making money. So we have to do that. So basically it’s like, “Okay you get on, you have ten minutes to interview Russell and it’s done. And then Russell will spend his money to promote that post to your people. And that’s the goal and the game plan.”
So that’s going to be fun, we’re trying that today. In fact, it’s starting in 14 minutes. I got to go. I’ll let you guys know how it goes. But that’s the recap so far of the first 12 hours of the book launch. It’s been amazing. Average Cart Value is sticking at about $38-$39 dollars. If you do the math on that, 63….we’re at about a quarter of a million dollars in cash collected the first 12 hours on the free book offer, which is awesome. So funnels work you guys. Once again, proving it, practicing what I preach. If you haven’t bought the book yet, go to Expertsecrets.com. Buy the book, slowly the funnel is working. It’s exciting. Anyway, appreciate you guys, have an amazing day and we’ll talk to you again soon. Bye everybody.
Hours before we launch our new book, these are my thoughts.
On today’s episode Russell talks about his book launch and how the funnel works and why he thinks it will increase cart value.
Here are some cool things in this episode:
So listen below to hear how the funnel works for the book launch today.
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Good morning everybody, guess what today is? Today is book launch day and I’m so excited with this really weird underlying feeling of being so tired. We totally were up last night at the office until 3 and now it’s 9. So that’s 6 hours since we were…..that’s 4 ½ hours of sleep. That’s pretty good. So a little tired, but feel good and excited and nervous all wrapped up into one huge thing.
The book launch goes live in 5 hours from right now. So we’re going in I have to finish the initial sales page, sales page for selling only a free book, it’s pretty intense and amazing and exciting and I cannot wait for you all to see it. In fact, by the time you hear this, it’ll probably be live. So that’s what’s happening today. We’re going live. This is 18 months worth of work and effort and stress all coming down to today.
It’s funny because it’s interesting at our events we do a hack a thon and make people stay up late and work and get a project done. At our certified partner event we make people do a hack a thon where they stay late. At our FHAT event we do that. There’s something about having a deadline that makes things get done. Because we’ve had a long time to work on this funnel but until it was like, k this is happening tomorrow. There’s just something about deadlines that make things actually get done. It’s kind of like how urgency and scarcity makes people buy, urgency and scarcity makes you get stuff done.
So we’ve got 5 or 6 of us hanging out at the office last night, we ordered sushi, working on the funnels and the pages and the videos and all the stuff. It’s turning out cool. So I know they’re all doing testing now and making sure all the order flow works and nothing breaks and all these kind of things. But that’s kind of what’s happening. I’m excited.
This is going to be a short one because I’m almost to the office already and I got a lot of work to do to get this thing live. But my one thing I wanted to share with you guys that I thought was cool, I talked to the inner circle group about this, back in the day I used to think that the goal of funnel was to sell people a thousand different ways. So we used to have these funnels that were really long. Not a good long either. It was like, upsell, downsell, upsell, downsell, just kept going until people hated me. And I thought that was the power of funnels and it’s not.
You can make a lot of money off somebody once through a funnel, but if you do it right, you make a lot of money off them forever. It should leave them having a better experience than without buying. Or it should make the buying experience better and not a worse experience; otherwise the funnel was a bad thing. And I don’t want these to be bad things for me or for anyone.
So I’ve been and you’ve all been into funnels where you get caught in this trap of upsells and downsells and it’s horrible. So my whole mindset this launch is how do we shorten the funnel? Which seems counterintuitive, but I want to shorten the funnel and then extend the value on the back. So what that means is basically when you go to book funnel you notice a couple of things. Page one you put in your shipping address, then page two basically you go from the book, to we upgrade you to the funnel hacker black box and also put in the fast product creation training.
So even though it’s a free book, during the check out process people will spend almost $70. So we increased our average cart, potential average cart value that much even though it’s a free offer. And then we just only have one real upsell. So the upsells there. If you say no to those there’s a downsell, but other than that it’s over. And then the transaction ends and on the thank you page, this is where we start the extending of the relationship building side of it.
So you come in the thank you page, there’s a 90 minute video of me training, which is one of my best, I’m proud of it, one of the best videos. So they get that, they get 90 minutes of education and training and it’s amazing. And the call to action at the end of the training is an opt in to this web class. They opt in to the web class and there’s 2 hours and 20 minutes of training that happens over the next few days.
Anyway, when you look at it, it’s like I’m extending, I’m shrinking the cart while still increasing the average cart value, then extending the value on the back side of it. But anyway, that five day class pushes them into a $997 Clickfunnels thing and then from there it transitions to the next thing. But it’s just interesting.
So my thought for today, first off make your funnels cool so people have a good experience and they enjoy the process. Shrink the size of the funnel while increasing the average cart value in a cool way that people enjoy. Then extend the back end follow up funnels through the training and education to build the relationship moving forward with people. Anyway, that’s my thoughts. I might be completely wrong, but I think I’m right. So we’ll find out soon, like 5 hours from now. Anyway, appreciate you guys for listening. I hope you have an amazing day and we’ll talk to you guys soon.
My new secret formula to sell everything I sell, for free.
In this episode Russell talks about his new book funnel that is launching this week and how he shifted the way he is selling it to hopefully make the offer irresistible.
Here are some of the interesting things you can look forward to in today’s episode:
So listen below to find out how you can still make money when everything is free.
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What’s up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back, I’m glad to have you guys here. I just got done with my daughter’s soccer practice, or not practice, it was a game and they did good. Now I’m heading home to go grab sandwiches for everybody. My wife and I took different cars because I had to film an upsell video real quick. Anyway, I got the upsell video done and then flew out here to the soccer game and now I’m heading back home.
I’m grabbing some Jimmy Johns on the way for the kiddos, some sandwiches for the adults, which will be kind of fun. So that’s what’s happening in my personal life. But I got something, I don’t normally do this, this time of day, but I’ve got something exciting I want to share with you guys that I think is going to be huge, huge, huge for value.
One of the things on my mind right now is offers. How do you create an offer that’s so irresistible that people have to give you money? There’s no logical way. One of the biggest, sorry, I didn’t finish my sentence. There’s no logical way for someone to no to you. Alex Mendosian from the Inner Circle, as we were talking, he’s one of the kings of creating offers that are so good you have to be an idiot…..he figures out a way to first off, to build gyms by giving people exactly what they want for free. But then, he’s getting paid 500 dollars to do that, don’t ask me how he does it, because it’s a little complicated to explain.
Then he got gym owners to basically let him come in and build their gyms for them, for free and in exchange they give him 50 thousand dollars. Once again, how does he do that? I don’t know how to explain it, but it’s pretty cool. And it’s awesome, so he’s really, really good at that. There’s other people who are really good at. I watch as other people struggle. They’re like, ‘Man, I created this course and no one’s buying it.” And it’s like, “The problem is you’re selling the course. That’s not sexy, nobody just wants to buy a course.” You have to understand that. To create, if you look at when we launched Clickfunnels, you look at the webinar that’s taken us to where we are today, if you notice this one little intricacy, I didn’t sell Clickfunnels on the webinar.
“What Russell? I thought you sold Clickfunnels, that’s how you built it up so big.” No, I didn’t. If you look at the offer, what the offer was when you buy Funnel Hacks for $997, you buy this course that’s amazing for $997, when you do that you get Clickfunnels for free for the next 6 months. That’s the offer. You look at that and you’re like, huh. Yes I want Clickfunnels for free, so I will buy the course.
So I created an offer that’s, because what they really want is Clickfunnels. I’m like, I’m going to give you Clickfunnels for free, who wants it for free? “I want it for free.” Sweet. When you invest in this training course, you get it for free. That little shift was huge for us. Before I was selling Clickfunnels, and you get this Funnel Hacks thing for free, what they really wanted was Clickfunnels, so I give them that for free when they buy the course. Shifting the offer. Same products, same deliverables, different way you structure the offer.
As I was telling you about Brendon Burchard, Brendon was showing me some of their offers and this one, I’ll kind of walk you guys through it, but he showed me this really cool process he does called the seven day launches, and I showed the inner circle meetings. I walked everybody through it in our groups. People are all going nuts, we’re about to launch our first, which I’m excited for. But what’s interesting is as I was looking at his offer, it’s brilliant because….How do I explain it?
Basically he creates a course for people live, so you get to watch for 12 hours as he creates an actual course, and you see the whole thing live. So then the average mind would say, “Okay, the product I’m going to sell now is that course.” The context of this is kind of hard, because you guys don’t have the back story, but just pretend like you understand. He creates a course, let’s people watch it live and at the end he offers a product. So the logical thing would be to sell the course, they just saw it, they want it. But he doesn’t sell the course, instead he sells a different course, gives a huge 50% discount on that course. When they buy that they get the thing that they just watched him create for free.
So it’s shifting the offer, which is the magic. So as I’ve been kind of thinking through this, I was launching, we’re launching the Expert Secrets book in a few days, and today I came in the office and the funnel I had was good, they were all good offers, but a good offer doesn’t make you tens of millions of dollars, like an insane, irresistible offer does. So I kind of took our existing funnel, scratched all that and said, ‘we’re starting over.” And I shifted the whole thing and we changed the funnel and the offers and now it’s insanely good.
Should I walk you guys through the whole funnel? I have a little time, okay we’ll do that. So this is what’s going to happen in the funnel. Somebody will come to the page and you’ll notice all the ads about free book, free book, free book. Why would I do that? Irresistible offer. Free book, you cover shipping. The message is always like, I’ll pay for the book, you pay for the shipping. That’s the message, irresistible offer, “Okay I want the book.”
They go to buy the book, they put in step number one, shipping address. Step number two says, “cool, here’s the book for free like we said. Or you can upgrade right now and get the Funnel Hacker Black Box, which gives you both of my books, plus these other four books, plus these other cool things and it’s just $37.” So they can upgrade, which is again another irresistible offer. You’re going from this to this other thing and it’s still irresistible. So there’s the irresistible offer.
Then there’s an order form bump, which again is another irresistible offer. “hey you’re going to get blah for free when you buy this training course at a huge discount.” Or something like that, I haven’t figured that one out exactly yet. But there will be a training course there, which is awesome. Then the upsell.
The upsell was going to be, I recorded both Dotcom Secrets, and Expert secrets audiobooks, I was going to sell that. My hard cost is kind of expensive. It’s about $40 for me to have these MP3’s that are shipped. They’re not Chinese ones, they’re actually American ones and they’re more expensive, but they’re really, really cool. You can do double speed on the MP3 player and a bunch of other cool things. So it’s a really cool offer product. I was going to sell that but I’m like, Okay, my hard costs are I think close to, I can’t remember exactly, I think close to $40. So I was like, what if I sell this for $100? But I’m like, I have to pay affiliates 40% commission, it gets really expensive really fast. So there’s not very much margin there, but I need the margin in there to be able to do what I need to do. I need the margin to be able to buy ads and all those kind of things.
So I’m like, what would I do? So I said, what if we do this, what if we increase the price to $150 for the MP3 player. And then its expensive MP3 player. I was like, wait. What if we shift the offer. So we shifted the offer. So what I’m doing now instead is like, “Look, if you guys want I will give you this MP3 player for free. You get it completely free. But to get it for free you have to invest in this course right here which is A Perfect Webinar Secrets training course. The training course sells for $297 but what you’re going to do is you’re going to get, because you’re on this page, you get a 50% discount. So you get the entire course for $147, you get half off, if you buy right now and you get the MP4 player for free.” Boom.
Boom, did you guys hear the bomb drop? Boom, irresistible offer. Because who doesn’t want the MP3 player for free? You want it and you’re like, you only get it when you buy this course, but you get a 50% discount on that course and all the sudden it’s an irresistible offer.
I look at my other courses I’ve done in the past, usually like $197 to $297 offer, I’m getting 5-7% that take that. I’m excited to find out what the percentage is on this. My guess is I’ll be in double digits. We’ll be hopefully at least in high double digits. That’s kind of cool. We’ll find out, time will tell.
I remember a long time ago, Anik Singal and Mike Filsaime put out a product called Launch Tree, and I remember one of the things they said in there was, “You want to say the word free a million times on the upsell page.” For example let’s say you sell ten CD’s on the upsell page, you want to be like, “You get these 9 CD’s for free when you invest in this one right here. You buy this one here you get the other 9 for free.” Try to figure out how you make your offer free. It’s all about how you make it free, free, free.
Now I’m giving away a free MP3 player, when you get 50% discount on this course you need anyway. So that’s the irresistible offer. And then if they say no to that, the down sell is like, “okay, how about this, if you don’t want the MP3 player, it costs me $50 to ship it to you anyway. How about this, it’ll save us both money. I won’t ship it to you, you get the digital copy, it’s only $97 dollars.” So we drop sell that and then I’m going to do one other cool thing on the down sell. You get the digital whatever or it’s like, “How about this, or if you decide to actually get the MP3 player, I’ll throw in these other cool bonuses as well.” To push you over the edge.
That’s going to be kind of cool. Then the next page I’m going to thank them and then I’m going to say basically, “It’s time to start your education and this first three chapters of the book are about building a massive movement. This is a 90 minute presentation I did at Funnel Hacking Live about building a mass movement and I want you to watch it now.” And then they watch the video, which it helps understand building a mass movement, building a culture, attractive character, all that kind of stuff that builds out the first three sections of the book. They watch that and then they bought after the video, tells them to go register for the Funnel Hacks webinar, register for that. It’s an auto webinar and it puts them through to sell them the thousand dollar product of Clickfunnels.
So that’s the first part of the funnel, the first point of sale. So they go free book, or they can get the black box, then they get the order form bump, then they get the MP3 player for free, basically everything so far has been free for the most part. And then they get the get the training video for free, they get the webinar for free. And if they buy funnel hacks they get Clickfunnels for free. Everything I’ve sold so far is free, yet my average cart value, my potential average cart value is like, 15, not quite that, 1300 bucks so far, which is awesome.
Then after the webinar funnel ends seven days later, so this whole funnel, point of sale is 7 day follow up on the webinar, and then what’s exciting is….what was I going to say? What’s exciting is then, after day seven then I transition them to I don’t know if I told you guys this when I was hanging out with Brendon, I might have told you on the plane. But he did a big product launch for, it was a $2 thousand course and he sold like 2200 copies and then the week later he sold the swipe files to that launch where it was like the sales videos, the transcripts, emails all that kind of stuff. For $97 he sold 6500 of those, something crazy like that.
So what I’m going to do is at the end of the funnel, like a week later be like, “Hey you just went through this cool funnel. It was a book funnel, plus webinars, a whole funnel stacking thing. What I’ll do is if you want, I’ll give you all the swipe files, the emails, the everything for free, once again it’s free if you join Funnel University.” Boom, get them into Funnel University. And when you join Funnel University you get my Funnel Stacking book and a bunch of other things for free.” So it’s free but they pay me $97.
So it’s coming back to how you make things free, even when they’re paying. So they get that whole cool thing for free when they join Funnel University. And then for 2 days I’ll be pushing that offer then we’ll down sell, if they don’t want to pay $97 a month, which is what we’re raising the price to, they can get a trial, but they don’t get the free things shipped out to them. Boom, the next three days and from there we transition into the seven day launch, Brendon Burchard, I’m messing up his name….his style funnel, which is basically training for free for three days. And then giving that thing that they just watched you record for free. They get it for free when they invest in your next thing and then the next thing is going to be our Secrets Master Class or the FHAT event. And that’s kind of the funnel. That’s the first 14 days.
That’s kind of what’s happening. I know it’s hard to see that visually as I explain it, but hopefully you’re getting the concept, you’re understanding how you make everything for free. That’s the key I wanted to share with you guys today. Making offers so irresistible that people have to say yes.
I hope that helps, I hope it helps to start thinking through your offers. If you’re selling a course for a thousand bucks, that’s just a course, it’s going to be hard to sell. But if you sell your sales scripts for $997 and they get the whole created course for free, then it becomes, you know something like that, then it becomes an irresistible offer. They’re like, “I need the sales scripts. I’ll pay $1000 for that because I want the other stuff for free.” How do you structure that. What do you have and how do make that offer as sexy as possible?
I think I did a podcast a couple of months back about turning up the sexy on your offers. It’s kind of something similar. But just thinking about that. How do you add free into everything? Hopefully it gives you enough case studies and ideas and examples. Worst case scenario, if you don’t understand what I’m talking about then on April 18th or beyond, probably by the time most of you guys hear this, it’ll be live. Go to expertsecrets.com, get your book and watch the process in motion. Buy slowly so you don’t miss any of it. I hope you guys enjoy it. Appreciate you all for listening, subscribing and hanging out with me all the time in the car, or wherever you may be right now. With that said, I’m at Jimmy John’s right now, I’m grabbing some sandwiches, go feed the kids. Then I gotta get back to finishing out this funnel so it’ll be ready for you guys to see. Alright we’ll talk soon. Bye everybody.
This week has been insane! Let me tell you a little about what’s going on.
On this episode Russell talks about being stressed out about his upcoming book launch while attending Inner Circle with his last two groups this week. He shares some of the things he was able to do for the book launch, while still be present at the Inner Circle meetings.
Here are the awesome things you will hear in today’s episode:
So listen below to find out what hiccups Russell has run into with his book launch, and what new rule will now be implemented on Inner Circle members.
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Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson and I want to welcome you guys to Marketing In Your Car. It’s been a little bit, I haven’t talked to you guys since the airplane trip, which I think got posted today. For you guys it’s right now, but for me it’s been a little bit. This week has been insane.
Starting with Inner Circle, we had, as you probably know at this point, we have 100 people in my Inner Circle, and basically we have 4 groups of 25. So last month we had the first 2 groups of 25, so that’s 50 people, and then the last two Monday, Tuesday here, and then Wednesday, Thursday. So I just finished up the last group. I wish I could share what happens in there because it’s amazing.
So many cool entrepreneurs and people and it’s insane that I get paid to help facilitate and hang out with these guys. So it’s been good but the one thing that’s been tough, my book launch starts on Tuesday. I’m not going to lie, I’m a little stressed out. A lot of stuff has been happening to get that all done and ready and I totally didn’t plan it well with Inner Circle the week before. So it’s been a long one. I’ve been up all night and then trying to be super present all day and it’s just been a lot. I’m tired, I’m worn out. I wish I could take a long 3 day weekend, but tomorrow I gotta get a bunch of stuff done and then Monday, and then launch Tuesday.
It’s all good, fun problems to have but I’m just not a very good scheduler, I don’t think. And what’s crazy, Tuesday night I was going to bed and I got one of the, what I thought was going to be the sales video for the new book funnel and the video was insanely good, but it wasn’t the right video for the sales page. And I was like, “Oh crap. I don’t know what to do. I don’t have time to make a new video for Tuesday’s launch.” So I started stressing out and started looking at the book funnel.
I had this really cool idea, insanely cool but it just wasn’t working and I didn’t know why. Anyway, I just hated the way the page look so that night I was insanely stressed. I was like, “Oh my gosh. I have no video, my funnel doesn’t look good.” My funnel has to be cool because I’m kind of the funnel guy who everyone’s looking at. If my funnel is ugly or doesn’t work, that’s embarrassing, especially since this is probably my biggest front end I will ever have. The focal point of my traffic and stuff for the next two or three years of our business and I need to make this perfect.
So I was, first off stressing out about both those two things. So this is, what night is this, they’re all blurring together, this is Monday night. So I just got home from the Inner Circle meeting, Monday night. This was probably like 11 o’clock at night when I had this epiphany of “I’m screwed. I don’t know what to do.” So I started going crazy and I’m trying to think of all these options. How do I make this page, first off work the right way? And all the sudden I remembered this page on our old Neurocel funnel, and that was the very first funnel we ever did, and so it was one of the free plus shipping ones we did before we turned it into the one that took off.
But there’s this part of the funnel that was so cool and I remember it and I was like, I needed to find that. But I can’t remember what the page was, it wasn’t archived or on the way back machine, so I couldn’t find it there. I was going through all my old emails, trying to remember which designer it was. It took me about an hour and a half and then I found it in some of my old email addresses in a random email from a designer that I forgot was the guy who actually designed it. I found it and I was like, “That’s it. That’s the…if I get that, it fixes the funnel.” But I was like, I don’t know how to do that in Clickfunnels. Then I was like, wait a minute, the designer who did that, he lives overseas, the guy’s awesome. I haven’t talked to him in probably a year.
So I messaged him that night. I was like, “Do you happen to be awake right now, because I need something super important, super urgent.” The guys’ name is Okey, he was my main designer forever, but when Clickfunnels came out I started doing all my own stuff. I was like, “Okey, if you’re around I need your help.” And he messaged back, “Yeah, hey. What can I do for you?” and I gave him this huge thing, “Basically I’m designing all these pages….” It was, I’m not going to lie, it was a pretty big order, what I asked him to do. And he’s like, “Yep, I’m on it.”
So he started running with that, thank heavens, I sent him tons of assets and he was running with that. And the video thing I was stressing out about and then I kind of had an idea, there was another video that the guy that did the first video, he sent another video that was, I watched it, it was legitimately amazing, but it wasn’t mine, so I couldn’t use it. But I was like, “oh my gosh, this is perfect.” But he gave me this process and a script, so I was like, “Okay, I gotta go to bed.” It was 1 in the morning at this point. I had to be up in like 5 hours for Inner Circle, so I was like I gotta get to bed.
So I went to bed, woke up in the morning and Okey had already designed the pages to send to me and I cannot wait for you guys to see them. They were amazing. And then during Inner Circle lunch, I had a 30 minute lunch, rewrote the script, got it ready, talked to Brandon who does all of our video stuff. I was like, “Hey Brandon, I need to film this, but it’s gotta happen, I don’t know when.” So last night actually, he came to my house at like 9 o’clock at night. He set up the curtains and everything to film the section of the video, we started filming, and it was a 3 ½ minute video but it took us 2 ½ hours to film it. Partially because my brain is fried, partially because I was changing it on the fly. We were rewriting the script while we were going. Got it done at about 12:30 last night.
And then Brandon, on top of that. The new sales page for the free book, there’s literally 20 documentary video testimonials of different people in different industries and markets, and he’s pulling 16-18 hour days trying to get all those videos done. All these things that are happening while I’m at Inner Circle meeting freaking out. Trying to serve these entrepreneurs at my highest level, being as present as possible. Then we have a lunch break, running into the other room and coordinating all these crazy, insane things and then running back and being present.
We just got done with the last day of Inner Circle, my son had a choir thing, had to tell everyone bye and take off, jump in my car, run to go see the choir and that’s where I’m at now. We just got done with the choir and I’m heading over to take the kids out to eat somewhere. So my wife’s in a different car than I am, so I have a minute to talk to you guys. So that’s kind of what’s happening over here, and it’s crazy and I’m so excited because the book launch is happening.
What I want to share with you guys is just one tip that I think is cool that we’re implementing and I’m really excited about it. And I think it’s cool. It came from, I think I’ve probably talked about this. But I geek out on old marketing courses. There’s something about the old ones, I like them more than new things. So I listen to a lot of Gary Halvert, a lot of Dan Kennedy, Jay Abraham, Frank Kern is still one of my favorites, I listen to Frank’s stuff all the time. And Matt Furey, who is a legend. He hasn’t published anything in ten years, but I still have all his old stuff.
I was listening to one of his old things, back when we had one of our huge snow storms, I was shoveling our walks with our snow plow thing that I bought that I ended up running into both my Corvette and Lexus and into our house. I destroyed so much property. Anyway, that’s a story for another day.
But anyway, I’m listening to Matt Furey and he’s talking about, at the time, this was ten years ago, there was a membership site and he had a rule with the membership site, he said people would leave and say I’m going to come back 3 or 4 months later, and they never did. Anyway, so I thought, that’s pretty cool. So I was like, I want to implement that, but I was really scared. So at Inner Circle, we have 100 people and for the most part people stay all the time, but there’s always some people that are like, “I’m going to put it on pause for 5 or 6 months, and I’m going to come back.” And it just bugged me because I didn’t think it was fair to them, honestly, or me, or the rest of the group.
And my goal with Inner Circle was take a group of 100 entrepreneurs and move them from a million dollars, to ten, to a hundred and I walked through really cool presentation twice this week, showing them that that’s the plan and the path. This is where we’re going and how we’re getting there.
I was like, “I don’t want to keep bringing new people into Inner Circle because I can’t, I don’t want to restart over at ground zero, every single time I want to take everyone as a group together and ascend everyone and get to the point where we’re at 10 million, and then a hundred million as companies. How many people’s lives are we impacting? That’s my goal with Inner Circle. There’s a lot of people, big mastermind groups that try to scale them, and that’s their business model. For me, Inner Circle is not my business model, it’s a by-product, and it’s something that I love because it keeps me sharp and relevant, and keeps me with my hand in literally, a hundred different businesses in tons of different markets. It gives me the ability to see some unique things. And that’s the value that I get out of it, plus the money’s not bad. But it’s not my business. Clickfunnels is my business, this is a by-product of it.
So didn’t want to burn and churn and bring in people, I want to keep 100 people and I want to send these people and their businesses and their lives together as a group. So because of that, I decided we’re going to create this thing. I think I talked about it with you guys a little while ago, but we’re going to call it Inner Circle for life, it’s going to be something where if you’re in the Inner Circle, you’re in. And if you leave, we’ll still love you but you just can’t come back in. If you’re not getting at least your 25k worth, then it’s not, you shouldn’t be here.
So we made that rule and it was scary to kind of present it, all four times. But it’s cool because there were a couple of people who were upset, and there were people who honestly hadn’t gotten a return on their money, and if you didn’t get a return on your money after going through this process for the last twelve months, it’s probably not the right fit. For those that did, it’s the cheapest 25 thousand dollars you will ever spend, on earth, ever.
So with that, we launched that and today was the last day I presented that, basically showing the Inner Circle for life and that’s the game plan. It’s cool because everyone is rallying behind that and it’s becoming a thing and now it gives me the ability to work with the group at a different intimate level. And I think for a lot of your high end programs, you guys should look at that, making it something where it’s Inner Circle for life, or whatever your program is, and keep people in so you can keep ascending and working with them.
In fact, the only way of getting in the Inner Circle now, as of today, you have to go to the FHAT event and there has to be room to get in the Inner Circle, and if there is we hand pick people from the FHAT event. So that’s the only way to get into the Inner Circle now, which is kind of cool. So with that said, I am here with my kids and my wife. I’m going to bounce. Appreciate you guys, and we’ll talk to you guys again, probably tomorrow. See you guys.
A bunch of the cool stuff I got from my day with Brendon Burchard.
On today’s special Marketing From An Airplane, Russell talks about a meeting he had with Brendon Burchard and why he is taking a private jet back home to Boise.
Here are some of the cool things you will get to hear in this episode:
So listen below to hear about the awesome things Russell learned from Brendon and find out why you should never use the bathroom on a private jet.
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Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you guys to, actually Marketing in Your Airplane. Hopefully you guys can hear me, it’s kind of loud in here. I’m literally in my own private airplane right now.
Let me tell you the back story. So earlier yesterday, actually it goes back a couple of weeks ago. A couple of weeks ago I went to a Mastermind meeting at Dean Graziosi’s office and a bunch of cool people were there. And one of the cool people was Brendon Burchard. Brendon and I met probably ten years ago. I always respected him, and we kind of talked a few times, but we never really got to know each other. That was the first mastermind we sat together for the whole day. Towards the end I was just like, man, if you look at our industry and then the personal development industry, we’re on the outside obviously because there’s no other options but in our world, me and him are definitely have the biggest companies.
We never hung out, we never shared notes or talked about what worked or what didn’t work, things like that. So I messaged him a couple days later, “Hey, we should get together and just hang out, and share notes on what we’re both doing and hopefully get some ideas.” And he was like, he gave me three days, “I got this day and this day and this day.” In different parts of the country, and I was like, “Vegas sounds perfect.” because it’s an easy flight out of Boise. So I booked the thing and then yesterday morning I woke up at 4 o’clock in the morning, flew out to hang out with him. We hung out all day and then I’ll talk about what we talked about here in a minute.
But then at the end of the day I get a message from Melanie, my assistant, actually voxed me and said, “Your flight got delayed, and it was a connecting flight, so that one you’re going to miss. I’m trying to find another flight, everything direct is sold out.” And all sorts of stuff. She couldn’t get me out that day. And then Brendon is like, “Oh don’t worry man. I’ll take care of you.” I’m like, “What’s that mean?” He’s like, “Hold on.” And he called a couple of numbers and he’s like, “Okay, there’s a jet picking you up in the morning and they’ll fly you back to Boise.” I’m like, “are you kidding me?”
Dang, look at that. Oh you guys can’t see it. I’m looking out the window and there’s a jet flying past this jet. There’s jet streams. What? That was cool.
Anyway, he’s got an account with JetSuite. He just called them up and then they flew to Vegas, and they picked me up this morning and now we’re flying back to Boise. And I’m literally the only person on this plane. There’s 4 seats, 2 pilots. And it’s the coolest thing in the world.
Also, by the way, we’re starting a vlog, so I’m recording this, so if you guys in the future can see our vlog, it’ll be episode three and we’ll show the whole story. Behind the scenes, show you the flight, if you guys want to see the visuals. You should probably see what I just saw, that’s where you go to check it out. Anyway, so that’s what’s happening right now. I’m flying back home and again, I was trying to fly in the morning and out at night, so I could get back home for Ellie’s soccer game tomorrow, but I missed it unfortunately. Instead I’m flying in a private plane home, which is insane.
So I’m doing that right now. So while I’m flying home I’ve been kind of taking notes on the cool stuff that Brendon and I talked about. And I obviously can’t share with you, something I just can’t share because they were things he shared with me in confidence. But there are some things I definitely can share.
The number one cool thing, is this cool thing called JetSuite, which is the thing I’m on right now, literally. They pick you up, they fly you, they….I don’t know if it’s possible to get in Boise, but it’s definitely, at first gotta figure out. Honestly I walked right up, jumped in a plane. There’s no waiting and it’s funny because I bill my time, if someone wants to hire me for an hour, I don’t even know what it would be right now. Last time I did, it was 5 grand an hour. Since then I’ve had like five people try to do it, and I turned it down because I didn’t have time for it. Let’s just say it’s 5 grand an hour.
So I saved an hour being in airports. Probably two if you look at landing and coming. So that’s two hours. That’s 10 grand right there I just saved. And then on the flight, there’s wifi, there’s nobody here coughing on me, or sneezing on me. If I had business partners, and my wife and kids, I could get some cool connection time on the plane as opposed to sitting in a normal plane cramped and miserable. So that right there is awesome. So I’m going to be looking for that.
Let’s see, another thing, what’s interesting is Brendon and I were talking, we have different super powers that are different. I think what I’m really good at is building out amazing front end funnels that are profitable from day one. I look at every one of the funnels that we built, especially free plus shipping funnels, all those ones are optimally designed so that when we put a dollar into advertizing, it puts $50 back out immediately into sales. You guys have seen us talk about that, all our break even funnels and stuff like that. I’m really good at that.
And then I look at Brendon, and Brendon’s not quite as good at the front end funnels, but what he’s really good at, when someone comes into his funnels, for the next 400 days there’s a sequence he goes through and takes them through the 16 or whatever different courses he sells, he pushes people to different events, everything. He does 9 events a year and never promotes any of them outside of the follow up sequence that happens. He brings someone in the funnel and then the sequence goes for 400+ days, fills 9 events a year. So with all the info products, all the courses, I’m not really looking to share his revenue, but you know, well over 8 figures, multiple 8 figures in this process.
So for him, he’s got these front end funnels that aren’t profitable up front. He drives insane amounts of traffic, and by day 60 he breaks even. It takes 60 days to break even and he knows that. So because of that he goes and spends tons of money of Facebook ads, YouTube ads and radio, those are his three big traffic sources right now, which is cool. I’m going to try radio with my book, which I cannot even wait to do.
And then I look at my business, I’m really good at break even, being profitable right out of the gate, but my long term funnels aren’t that long. I think it’s because, and I talked about this with the inner circle members. I think I had a podcast that talked about this too. But my creativity in our business for a long time was creating new offers, new businesses. That made 3 or 4 million dollars a year, and then we transitioned into having one focus, Clickfunnels, and created offers to get people into Clickfunnels. We went from 3 million to 30 million.
Then my goal to go from 30 to 100 is focusing on new traffic sources. And I look at Brendon, that’s what he’s done. He has these funnels and he’s focusing on traffic sources that he can bring in and then they break even after, hopefully within 60 days of bringing people in. So that’s been kind of my biggest takeaway, is that. He does typically someone comes in his funnel and there’ll be two or three weeks promoting one of his courses, and then he’ll have a two week buffer time. Which is two weeks of him sending amazing videos that tell stories, build relationships and doesn’t sell anything.
Then after two weeks of buffer, he sends people back into another two or three week period where he’s selling the next course. Then he’s got a two week buffer. Back and forth for 400 and something days, which is insanely cool. And I think that my problem, why I haven’t done that in the past is because I’m so excited about the new offer I’m creating all the time, I don’t want people in the long sequences, and I don’t know how to promote the next offer. And he was like, “Why do you keep creating offers.” He’s like, “That’s my problem, I have 16 courses. Why don’t you stop creating courses, and just plug them into this sequence and then you can just focus on driving traffic. That becomes your focal point.”
And the interesting thing about traffic, traffic is the one part of my business that doesn’t require me, which is interesting. The funnel part requires me, because it’s all my creativity, my voice, my videos, but on traffic, it’s like I can step back, and it’s John on my team and his team underneath him who drive the ads, that becomes the focal point. And it’s interesting because I love and I get so good at creating lots of funnels over and over again that I spend insane amounts of time, way too much time.
Brendon told me, I think he takes, I think he said, 17 weeks off a year. I think that’s what he said. 17! 17 weeks. That’s like 4 months, that’s more than 4 months. Over 4 months a year he takes off. I can’t do that, I don’t do that. I’m always in hustle mode, and I think that’s because I’m always creating the next funnels, push all the ads into that funnel and sell it as opposed to all these amazing funnels we’ve created and just put them into a killer, long sequence and then focus on the traffic. Which even the traffic part does not take my whole time. That was the big takeaway for me, that was the huge aha.
So I just kind of look at Brendon, imagine if you took your funnels, you broke even, you 3x’d on day one like we do with all of our funnels. Then instead of break even on day 60 you tripled on day one, and then from there you kept doing what you’re doing. So he was excited about that. I was showing him all our ninja hacks to 3x on day one. And he was showing all the ninja hacks where he can basically not work, because he’s got all the courses lined up sequentially. And it’s interesting, the logical sequential order of things, I always thought that Experts Academy was his biggest business, but it’s not. In fact, High Performance Academy is his thing, his biggest, that’s his mission, that’s his “date with destiny”.
Tony Robbins has Date with Destiny, which is his pinnacle. For him High Performance Academy is his pinnacle event he’s trying to get people to. And so all of his funnels are focused on getting people, he has no sales people, no nothing. He also has a 30 thousand a year mastermind and a 60 thousand dollar a year mastermind, and a 250 thousand dollar a year, and all those masterminds he doesn’t have any sales people to sell them. They all just come through funnels, which is insane.
I’m like, “But with a sales person it’s really easy, it converts just as many people.” He’s like, “yeah, I don’t worry about that. I just put it out there and some people buy. I just jam enough traffic into it that if one out of every 10 thousand people buy, it all works.” I’m like, “Crazy.” It’s fun to see this whole business through a different lens than my own, which is really cool. So that was one of my biggest takeaways.
So for you guys, if you’re all like me and you work too hard, I think that’s the key. Quit creating tons of new funnels, which I know we all love, it’s so exciting. But focus on, it comes back to follow up funnels, action funnels, like we talked about at Funnel Hacking Live. It’s interesting, I think I did a presentation in December that showed how every dollar made in our break even funnels made $60.73 in our follow up funnels. That was with it in a short, 30 day follow up window, as opposed to what Brendon’s doing where it’s like 400 days.
So anyway, that’s something that I was literally sketching out in my notes from on my private plane. So crazy. On the plane, trying to figure out how I’m going to do that and what is the sequential order of my products. If someone comes in, my first thing I want to have is Expert Secrets, from there Dotcom Secrets, from there what is the sequential order? What’s the pieces they need and the order they need them? How can I do it the cool way where I spend a couple of weeks getting people into the program, a couple of weeks telling stories, building value to now they love us, and a couple of weeks transitioning back and forth, back and forth.
I think my biggest fear when I look at this is how am I going to create 400 days follow up sequence? And I look at Brendon and he didn’t do a 400 day follow up sequence. He would build one and then another one. I think what I’m going to do is, here’s my thought, and I may change it, but I’ll share with you guys and maybe it’ll give you guys some ideas on your own. I’m going to spend the next 30 days building out a 30 day follow up funnel. So if someone buys the book or anything, whatever they buy, what’s the first thing I want to introduce them to? They buy the book and the book is the initial sequence or whatever. Then all those people, from all my front end offers, so I’m looking at I think 10 or 11 front end offers to bring people into it, all my break even funnels that I love.
So I have a break even funnel, they go to the initial sequence there, after they do then we dump them from there into, and I’ll probably call to action funnel and call it the first 30 days, and then the first 30 days will be like, here’s the process for the first 30 days. Our number one goal for the first 30 days is to get them to buy Clickfunnels. So boom, I’ll take them through the sequence process and they’ll buy Clickfunnels, they’ll watch the webinar, we’ll indoctrinate and tell stories and all that kind of stuff. From there, we’ll share a bunch of content, maybe some Funnel Hacking Live videos to give value.
Then number two, now we got that. What’s the next thing we want to take? So then I’ll probably call it the second 30 days and then the third 30 days. I’ll probably create an action funnel for each one. And at the end of the first 30 days after I build that second 30 days, I’ll go back to the end of the first 30 days and I’ll add in a step in the action sequence that says, “When they finish day 30 move them to the second 30 day sequence.” Then everyone will be past that, then it will be automatically into the second sequence and that way I can just build out 30 days at a time and not stress out about how I’m going to build 400 days. No I’m just going to build 30 days at a time.
And then everyone that buys will be dumped in the first 30 days, here’s the sequence they go through. Everyone will go through the same sequence, same everything. Then at the end of that I’ll start building the next 30 days. Whenever I get it done, then I’ll dump all leads into the second 30 days and then I’ll hook it up so that everyone new coming in past day 30 si on the automatically shifted to the next action funnel. So it could be kind of cool. So maybe after I do this, this is actually a cool product.
That reminded me of something else. Okay, this might be a cool product I do. After I get the first 365, here’s the first 365 day follow up sequence, I may just want to buy that book. Here’s every email for the first 365 days when someone comes into our funnels. So maybe I’ll do that. Yeah, that’d be a cool product. So in a year, I’ll sell that to you guys if you want it. Yeah, that’d be kind of cool.
So this is a cool thing I got from Brendon, which is crazy. This is a couple of years ago, he did his, I can’t remember which course, Expert Academy, one of his products. He ended up selling 2500 of them at $2 grand a piece. A lot of money. Bu then afterwards he was like, “What do I do with all these people?” he was so proud of all the videos and email sequences and all the stuff he had built, so what he did was he took all of the prelaunch videos and burned them on a dvd and then got them all transcribed and then he took all the email swipe files, all that kind of stuff, got them all transcribed, put them in this big book and then he sold, I think for $97 you get the DVD, then the transcripts of the campaign. So anyway, so he sold for $97.
From that he sold over 60 thousand copies, 600 grand, 60 thousand copies at $97 a piece of the marketing material for people to see and model, which is crazy. Insanely crazy. In fact, oh my gosh I got an idea. I’ve got Funnel Hacker Swipe file.com, what if I did that with every campaign we did, start selling the swipe files? That’s interesting. Maybe I do it inside of funnel u? I don’t know, just gives me ideas. But it made an extra $600 grand after just selling the prelaunch materials to the same audience. 3 times bought the marketing material as people who bought the actual product. It’s crazy that people buy the product, the $97 thing he still sells at events everywhere else, people buy that and go through all his marketing material, and then they go back and buy his thousand dollar product now because they want it.
It’s kind of like what Frank Kern does. If you look at Frank Kern business funnel, he creates a product then launches it and after he sells him showing you what he did on that funnel and that’s it. Its like swipe files. Here’s the campaign plus the swipe files and it’s insanely cool. Anywho, so much cool stuff.
Alright, a couple of other cool things I learned from him. He’s obviously, he’s done two products with Oprah, so one of the interesting things he does with every one of his funnels, he has to make sure it’s Oprah proof. Oprah and her people literally go through all his funnels and it has to be clean enough that it’s Oprah proof. I started thinking about that, are my funnels Oprah proof? Where someone like Oprah came through would they be offended, would they not like it or whatever? Oprah’s obviously not someone I’m going after, but who is the person I’m going after? Who are the people that I want to make sure….thinking about that, is the copy and positioning and all the stuff in your funnel, who is the dream person you want to go after? Would it pass their inspection and be like, this is cool and not scammy or spammy.
In fact, I went to one of my funnels the other day and some weird email came out and I was like, “Ugh.” I remember I hired this guy to write emails and he wrote that email and I’m like, it’s not congruent with me or what I say. So it’s something to think about. The other cool thing he showed me how to do with YouTube ads. So the thing with YouTube ads, there’s a YouTube ad that will be a video of him sharing 3 tips from his book and it pushes people to the book. And the people who watch that will be targeted to watch video number two, which has 3 more tips, and then push the book and then he targets those people to go to video number 3 which is now a recap, “Here’s the 6 tips I talked about before” and pushes them back to the book. And then if they haven’t bought the book after the 3 videos, then he puts them on a “Do not solicit” list. If they haven’t bought from three videos, they will never buy and they have no hope. And you should never follow them or show them ads again. He puts them on a do not solicit list, which is kind of cool. Kind of a cool strategy as well.
What else, what else? So many cool things. I hope that gives you guys some cool stuff. It was legit amazing, and now I’m sitting in a jet. I have a new love and respect for Brendon. I always said he was cool, but I just didn’t know him or understand him and I think that I had kind of a misconception of him sometimes because, and it was interesting because I always thought he , in his mind he was kind of like me, he sees himself as a marketing dude, teaches marketing stuff. And as I talked to him, it’s completely opposite, he thinks of himself as first off an author, and then his goal, his whole dream in life is personal development and high performance, things like that.
In fact, his next book is called something about high performance as well. He spent two years with a whole research team creating insane stuff, building a test that measures high performance, that’s his huge passion. And he’s like, “I always teach the marketing stuff, you teach marketing better than me. Frank Kern teaches marketing better than me. I’m not the best marketing teacher but you’re all my people who come through all my high performance stuff that want to know how I build this company. So I do Expert Academy once a year just to be like, ‘here’s how I do it. I’m not the best but here’s what I do.’ And it’s become a big thing, but it’s not my focus or main thing. I don’t promote it, I don’t have any front end support. The only way people even know about Expert Academy is on day 200 of the funnel he introduces it to people.”
I was like, that’s really fascinating and interesting. Anyway, I thought that was really, really cool. That’s what I got. So that’s all I wanted to share with you guys I think today. So I’m going to be, I don’t know when I’m landing, but I’m going to keep taking notes and map this thing out. You guys will probably see the fruits of this. My goal, my big takeaways from this whole meeting is to be able to take my amazing funnels and build out an amazing sequence that extends for a long time and putting everything in sequential order and things like that. That’s my number one goal.
And my number two goal to that is from that be able to take more time off. He said he takes 17 weeks off in a year. I don’t know if I could do that, I think I would stress out. Plus, he doesn’t have kids and stuff like that. So he and his wife are able to be like, “Hey lets go to Bali this week.” Or “Hey, let’s go over here.” So they book out, they plan out each month where they’re going and its crazy. I can’t do that, because my kids have school and all these things. But maybe I could be like I’m going to take Friday off, or what if I came home every day at 3 when my kids got home, or what if I did stuff like once a quarter took a weekend with my wife, or whatever those things are.
So I’m going to start playing with that. That was really inspiring for me. Oh the other cool thing I got from it. I did a podcast the other day how twice in Boise that day I had people come up to me, “Hey Russell.” And ask me questions about me and caught me off guard and I didn’t know how to handle it. It was cool, we were sitting there eating lunch and some guy ran up, “Russell Brunson, I’m a funnel hacker.” And it was kind of awkward for me, and I didn’t really say anything and the guy laughed and an hour later Brendon and I were walking and some guy ran up to Brendon like, “Dude! You’re Brendon Burchard!” It was kind of cool, we both had it happen to us while we were hanging out.
He handled it so much better than I did. It was so cool to see. I was just like, dang. Now I……it wsa cool to see that because he didn’t do what I do. Act like an idiot. He turned around and was like, legitimately excited, “You know who I am? How do you know about my work?” and the guy was like, he wanted to tell him, it was cool Brendon told me he learned that from Paula Abdul. That’s what Paula Abdul did. First off act all excited like, “Whoa.” Then ask them “how do you know my work? How do you know what I do.” And then they’ll be excited to tell the story of how they know you.
He’s also good at, my biggest problem is I think I fear the conversation with people because I don’t know how to end it. I get stuck in these awkward situations and I run away. So what he does is really cool. He asks them that question and then he starts turning his body like I gotta keep going, “That’s really cool. Okay, well we’re in a rush, we have to go but thank you so much for being a follower and a fan. Just so grateful for that.” And something like that. And then we’re able to break away and leave. I even told him after, “Dude, that was so good for me to see. Because I don’t know how to handle it. I don’t know how to take that kind of stuff. I’m not used to that. It just freaks me out and I look like an idiot. That way you handled it was super cool and it was fun to see that in a live version.” So that was pretty cool to see as well.
Anyway, that was the weekend, it was amazing. Now I’m sitting on a private jet and this is crazy. Only weird thing about it is if you look behind me, there’s a little toilet seat, and there’s a little curtain. Luckily I don’t have to go to the bathroom, but if I did that would be the only thing about private jets that’s not cool. There’s not a real bathroom. It’s like one of these seats you lift up the lid and there’s the potty, pooper, whatever you want to call it, the toilet, the crapper, whatever you want to call it. There’s the little curtain that you pull halfway over. And I guarantee it’d stink this place up and the pilots would kill me. I’m grateful I don’t have to go to the bathroom. Other than that, private planes are cool. Note to self, take one and make sure you go before you go.
There’s the practical advice. What’d you learn from Marketing In Your Car? I learned if you ever fly in a private plane, you go to the bathroom before you get on otherwise you stink out the pilots and they’ll hate you. Oh man.
Anyway, alright guys. Appreciate you, I can’t wait to get going with some of this stuff. Hopefully you guys got some cool lessons today like I did. Thank you Brendon, if you’re listening to this, for taking the day with me. That was the real cool thing, he was in the middle of editing his book, he still took the whole day and he was so present and relaxed and if it was me, I’d be stressed out the whole entire time. Just coming back to he has his life structured to be able to handle this type of stuff and it was really impressive and cool to see. Anyway, I got a ton from it, hopefully you got something as well from listening in. Appreciate you all and I’ll talk to again when we get back on solid ground. Bye.
Do you remember the day that you became?
On this episode Russell talks about the moment he became a wrestler and how he felt and how that relates to the moment he became a marketer.
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So listen below to hear about the moment Russell became a wrestler, and the moment he became an internet marketer.
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Hey everyone, good morning. This is Russell Brunson and welcome to Marketing In Your Car. Sorry I’m stuttering, I’m actually on the freeway right now. Normally I do these things closer to my house so it’s a little less chaotic. But this morning I had to get up early. And I didn’t get to bed last night until almost 2 o’clock. Because we got Wynter Jones is in town and a couple of other people. So I have a good excuse to pull all nights, working on funnels. So we did last night and then I had to get up this morning because we had a film shoot at 6:30 at this amazing location we found down in Nampa, Idaho. It’s kind of out in the ghetto and then you walk through the door and it’s this amazing building with stone walls, Christmas lights hanging from the ceiling, it’s amazing.
A bunch of people who work for Disney, a bunch of animators in there, so it’s a bunch of super creatives….whoa, crap. I’m on the freeway, some people stopping.
Anyway, all these amazing creative people in there that are building, I don’t know, movies and animations and stuff like that, a whole bunch of Macs, and smart people. It was really, really cool. So we filmed something in the basement there for Mark Joyner when we filmed his episode for Funnel Hacker TV, which is coming soon. We filmed in the basement because it was this really creepy, nasty basement. We filmed the sales video for Mind Control Marketing there and it turned out so cool.
But I remember I was like, “Oh that upstairs was so cool. Someday I want to film in there.” So we were filming the book promo video for Expert Secrets and that’s where we decided to film it at. So that’s what we were doing this morning. We got there super early and we were trying to film before anybody woke up. And the crazy thing, I went to bed almost 2 o’clock and my alarm went off at 5:15 and I had two alarms, just in case I slept through them both. Anyway, at 5:45 I sat up and I was like, “What?” both of my alarms had turned off. I was like, “Oh my gosh.” So I had a freak out. I had to run and get ready and shower. I’m doing a juice fast this week, and luckily I didn’t have time to eat because I couldn’t eat.
But I jumped in the car and raced down here, and I was a couple of minutes late. Then the guy who I guess Brandon said that he forgot to RSVP until we were actually coming. So the dude didn’t show up. So Brandon’s calling him at 6 in the morning. Luckily one of the employees showed up early and got us in. So we got in there and started filming and…..sorry, I’m pulling off the freeway exit right now.
So we started filming and we only have like 30 minutes before their entire staff and team showed up for work. So we had to go fast. So we get everything set up, anyway, it turned out really cool. I’m excited to see what, how it all turns out. So you guys will see it soon on Expertsecrets.com, when the book is all done.
But that’s what’s happening. I’m heading back from there. I’m super tired, so I might go home and take a nap for a little bit. Because we have another long day today of amazing stuff we’re building out. Not only are we trying to get the Expert Secrets funnel done this week, we’re also trying to get Super Funnel, Exit Funnel and a whole bunch of other cool things that all tie together for the whole launch. That’s a story for another day. But that’s kind of what’s happening.
So I had a message I wanted to share with you guys today because I thought it was interesting. I recorded a video yesterday, and I don’t know about you but I, in Expert Secrets I talk about how everybody needs to build an index of stories you’re going to have. You never know when you’re going to use them and how you’re going to use them. So a lot of times this podcast is a testing ground for me to tell a story. Then I tell stories at the office and I tell stories when I speak and in a million different places. It’s funny, Brandon who has been filming me every day for the last two years, he was like, “dude that was a new story, I’ve never heard that one before.” I was like, “Really, I’ve never told that. It’s been in my inventory of stories forever.” But apparently I never told it.
So it was basically a story about the day that I became a wrestler. When I was growing up my dad was a wrestler, but I was going to be a basketball player, because that’s what short, white guys do is we become basketball players. So every day I practiced basketball, and I knew that’s what I was going to do and be. I don’t want anything else besides being a basketball player.
So that was kind of my, what I thought my future was going to be. And then my dad though, was a wrestler growing up and I guess I had wrestled for a year or two when I was, I don’t know, 5 or 6 years old. But apparently my parents said I hated it. So I dropped out of it and was never going to do it again. But then, lo and behold, in 8th grade as I’m pursuing my basketball career, it was bad because I remember Spud Webb back then, was a little short guy who was shorter than me, but he could dunk. I was like, “If Spud Webb can dunk, then I can dunk.” And I never, I got taller than Spud Webb, but I still couldn’t dunk. But that’s a story for another day.
Anyway, I thought I was going to be a basketball player, but one of my buddies two doors down from me, he went to wrestling practice and came home and started to tell my dad, “I went to wrestling practice today.” And my dad was like, “What? There’s wrestling practice here? I’m a wrestler and my son’s going to be a wrestler.” So that was kind of what happened. Sorry, I’m driving and doing three things and I keep dropping everything. So not what I should be doing. If you guys were watching, I’d probably be getting yelled at by someone.
Anyway, so my dad was like, “We need to go to wrestling practice.” And he tried to get me to. I was like, “No, dad. I’m a basketball player. I’m not going to wrestle. Come on now. There’s no wrestling in the NBA, how am I going to do this?” Finally my dad forced me to go to wrestling because he’s like, “Nope, we’re wrestlers in this family.” I was like, “What? I don’t want to wrestle.” But he kind of made me go. That was 8th grade.
So 8th grade I did wrestling and I kind of liked it but I was like, it’s not basketball, come on now. So I just told my dad, “I’ll wrestle right now but…” and the way school worked in Utah for me, 9th grade was basically junior high and 10th grade was high school. 9th grade had started and I was like, “Well, I’ll do wrestling in 9th grade. But my sophomore year I’m going out for the basketball team because I’m a basketball player.” And he’s like, “Okay, whatever.”
So 9th grade I started wrestling and I start liking it, but not loving it. I remember my very first wrestle off, and the way wrestling works, it’s kind of cool, it’s not like the coach picks who’s going to be first tier or second tier, all that kind of stuff. You wrestle and whoever wins, wins. So they line up all the weight classes, there’s like 5 or 6 people in my weight class and then you have a wrestle off.
So you wrestle everybody else to see if you’re going to be first string, second string, third string. So there’s one dude who is really good, he was varsity, then there was a JV guy and a couple of other guys and then there was me. So we all got to wrestle and the guy who had been JV the year before, I had him in a wrestling match and I was like, I had no plans of winning. I just thought, he’s a high school kid, he’s a man for crying out loud. I’m a little kid.
Anyway, we wrestled and I beat him. And the coach is like, “Congratulations, you’re going to be JV this week.” And I’m like, “What?” and he’s like, “Yeah, you’re going to wrestle in a tournament.” I’m like, “Are you kidding me?” So I go home and tell my parents. I’m like, “I beat the guy in the wrestle off.” My dad’s like, “What?” and I’m like, “Yeah, I’m going to be wrestling this week.” And he was all excited obviously and told my mom and told, you know, everybody.
Fast forward now a couple of days, it was the wrestling tournament, we were wrestling Bingham High School. I remember we get to weigh-ins and I’m a little tiny, skinny 130 lb kid at the time. So I get on the scale and you know, you strip down to your tighty-whities and you step on the scale and look at your weight. And then the guy who I’m wrestling gets on the scale, he steps up and I look at him and the dude had a mustache. I don’t know about you, but to this day I can’t grow a mustache. I’m not still not quite manly enough to do that. He had a mustache, and again this is in high school.
I was like, “Are you kidding me? I’m a little kid. This guy in a mustache is going to destroy me.” I was so scared. So I remember after weigh-ins, we’re getting warmed up and I see my dad and I’m like, “Dad, the guy I’m wrestling has a mustache.” And my dad’s like, “What does that matter?” I’m like, “I don’t know but he’s like a real man Dad. I can’t grow a mustache.” Anyway, I go out there for this match. I go out there I’m wrestling, I’m going through the whole match, I’m wrestling this guy and I don’t remember much about the match. All I remember is at the end I won. I stood up and I shook his hands and I remember looking at him in the face and I was like, “I just beat a dude who’s got a mustache.”
And then the ref raised my hand. As soon as I raised my hand, my head went up and I look at the audience, it’s the bleachers, and in the bleachers there’s two people, my mom and my dad. My dad’s standing up clapping and that day I became a wrestler. I was like, this is the greatest feeling I have ever felt ever. I never got that from basketball, never got it from anything else. I’m a wrestler, that day I became a wrestler.
I was thinking about that. I was like, different parts of our life we identify with different things. For over a decade of my life, I was a wrestler. I still am in my mind. I identify with that, that’s who I am. At my core, there’s a few things I am, I’m a wrestler, I’m a Mormon, I’m a dad, I’m a husband, there’s a couple of things and I’m an internet marketer. There are things, four or five things I really self identify and each of those situations, I know the day that I became that person. I know the day I became a wrestler. I know the day that I became a Mormon. I know the day that I became an internet marketer. And it’s when you have that experience and you’re just like, “Dang, that feeling, I never want to lose that feeling again. That was the greatest feeling in the world for me.”
For my business, I remember when it was. I got online and I was trying all these things, you’ve probably heard my back story a million times. I was trying thing after thing after thing and all sorts of stuff and nothing was working. I remember the very first time I created something and put it out there and somebody bought it. And it was $20 and the $20 came to my Paypal account and I was like, “Dang.”
I remember coming home and telling my wife, I had a Paypal credit card at the time. We had no money in the Paypal account, but i had a Paypal credit card. Someone bought and we had $20, and for me as a college kid, $20 was insane. I came home and told Collette, “We made our first sale.” And she’s like, “What? You made a sale?” I’m like, “Yeah, someone paid us $20” and we were so excited we went out to dinner that night. And we used my Paypal credit card and paid for dinner. I mean, it wasn’t a fancy place, probably Burger King or something, that is my favorite restaurant. But we went to Burger King or something and I think we went to a dollar movie.
But it was like, I earned this. This is something, because at that point, my parents had supported me my whole life. My, I had Summer jobs, but I was wrestling all the time, so I never had a real job. Then I got married, my beautiful wife supported me. She was doing two jobs. For the first time in my life, I had created something that made money. That night, that dinner, that was mine. That was my gift to her. I created something that paid for that dinner. It paid for that movie. That night is when I became an internet marketer. I had that feeling. I love this feeling. I never want it to leave. I want that for the rest of my life. And then I became obsessed and passionate about it.
So for you, I’m curious. I want you to think about it and hopefully it’ll be fun for you to go back and think, but what was the day, think about whatever it is your business is, the thing that you’re so passionate about giving and serving and sharing with people. What was the day that you became that person? That you became a wrestler, that you became a marketer, that you became a fitness coach, that you became whatever it is for you. What was the day that that happened? I want you to think about that, and that’s my gift for you today.
Because as I thought about it yesterday I was just like, what a cool experience. It’s just cool. I hope that this gives you a minute to remember that time for you and enjoy it. Because that feeling is what drives you now. You had that feeling once and you want it again and again and again. I want you to remember that because it was interesting, when Tony Robbins came to Funnel Hacking Live he talked about why we do things and it all came down to basically we do things, everything for humans is about a feeling. We want that feeling. We want to feel good, we want to feel loved, but it’s a feeling. That’s why we do everything.
That’s why people turn to drugs, to try to get the feeling. That’s why people turn to love, they want that feeling. That’s why people turn to all, it’s all about feelings. Sometimes we have a feeling and that’s what drives stuff, but forget about it. We don’t think about it, we don’t….just remembering that feeling of me getting my hand raised yesterday, it was, it felt good. You forget about that. We’re always racing for the next good feeling, but sometimes if you stop back and just think about the feeling you had, the day you became who you are, because that’s the feeling you’re chasing after every single day.
That’s honestly a feeling I chased for 12 years of my life while I was wrestling. That feeling of raising my hand and looking in the stands and seeing my dad, that was the feeling. That’s why I woke up super early in the morning, that’s why I stayed up late at night. That’s why I cut weight week in and week out, day in and day out for years. It’s the reason I got my eyes cut open. I had stitches, I had blood, the reason I sacrificed my body, my time, my energy, my effort, my everything, is because of that feeling. I wanted that again.
So what’s cool about us, as humans, we’ll stop and remember we can get that feeling again. So today I want you guys to sit back and I want you to remember that feeling. And that’s my gift to you. Just enjoy it for a little bit, before you go chasing it again, because it’s there and you can remember it and you can bring it back.
So I hope that helps you guys, it felt good for me today. Hopefully it felt good for you as well. And that’s all I got. I’m almost back to the office, I’m going to let you guys go. Appreciate you all, have an amazing day, and talk to you guys soon. Bye everybody.
Let’s talk about your moral obligation…
On today’s episode Russell talks about his book, Dotcom Secrets being mentioned on another marketing podcast, but how the host says Russell’s methods may be too aggressive. He explains why it’s okay to be aggressive when you are passionate about what you’re selling.
Here are some of the awesome things you will hear on this episode:
So listen below to find out why being aggressive is essential to selling something you truly believe in.
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Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson and welcome to Marketing In Your Car. Alright everybody, so today I’ve actually got a Go Pro on me as well. We’re thinking about starting a behind the scenes reality TV show, showing the behind the scenes reality TV show. That’s what Funnel Hacker TV is going to be. So I’m filming a whole bunch of stuff today, and I found a really cool dude and we’re going to see if he can turn this into a cool daily video thing, showing behind the scenes and if we can, that’d be awesome. And if it doesn’t work out then this might be one episode thing. So I’m excited for it.
But I’m heading to the office today. A couple of cool things, first off, I may have ordered my own life size Batman suit. It was custom fitted and it may have showed up on Saturday and I may be trying it on today for the first time. I’m so excited. Those of you guys who are JV partners, you will see this on the Expert Secrets JV page because we’re going to be giving away a bunch of these super hero outfits, which is going to be really fun. Batman is one of the ones, and it’s the one I really wanted, so I got it. And I’m really excited about that.
I wanted to talk to you guys about something today, because it’s kind of interesting. This morning I was getting ready and listening to a bunch of podcasts and there was this one podcast that I like, and on there the episode was talking about my favorite marketing book. I was like, “Oh please, please, let my book be one there. Please, please.” They started going through their top ten marketing books and they went through and about half way through they said, the guy who is one of the hosts said, “My next book is called Dotcom Secrets, by Russell Brunson.” I was like, “YES!” so excited.
He started talking about how cool it is, the sales funnels and stuff and then he said something that I was just like, “ahh..” he said, “You know some of the stuff Russell teaches in the book is kind of aggressive, and if you don’t like those things, you can kind of tailor it for your own needs.” I kind of stopped for a second, I was like, aggressive? Are you kidding me? Oh crap. My camera just tipped over while I was driving.
But I was like, aggressive? And I was thinking, I hate that people think that what I do is aggressive. Not that I hate that they think that it’s aggressive, I hate that they think that being aggressive is bad, that’s a better way to put it. Because I was like if you, and this comes from Jay Abraham, I first heard it from him. Actually I think Matt Bacak was the first person I heard say it, but he was quoting Jay Abraham. It was basically saying that if you believe in the product or service you are selling, then you have a moral obligation to do everything in your power to get it into the hands of your customers.
I don’t know about you, but I feel that. I feel like I have a moral obligation and I try to serve people and teach people and train people who also, they’re not just trying to get rich quick on the internet, but they feel like they have a moral obligation to their audience. They’ve created some product or service or thing that they feel can change the world and when you have that, you need to be aggressive about it. Otherwise people are going to miss it. For me, I’m just like I want people missing out on all this stuff I’m sharing between Expert Secrets, Dotcom Secrets, with Clickfunnels and all that kind of stuff. I don’t want them missing it because they’re like, “Oh you sound kind of excited, but you don’t really push me over the edge.” I want to push people over the edge because I believe in it that much.
I was thinking back about my life at different eras, for things that I really believed in. And one of them, a lot of you guys know I’m a Mormon, and I went on a two year mission. I was in New Jersey, Cherry Hill New Jersey, in Morristown, Camden, all over the southern two-thirds of New Jersey. I was out there every single day knocking on doors. I’ve had people in the past be like, “Why did you do that? Why did you push your religion on people?” I’m like, are you kidding? First off, I wasn’t pushing my religion on anyone. I was trying to share something I really, really believe in. Second off, I’m being aggressive because I believe it matters. I believe in what my message is so much that I’m willing to go out there and knock on doors, I didn’t get a penny. In fact, I paid my own way because I believe it so much.
It’s the same thing with this business. I believe in what we do so much that I’m going to be aggressive about it. I just want all of you guys that if you feel weird about being aggressive and marketing aggressively and trying to sell your product, it means you don’t believe in it enough. That’s the only logical thing that I can say. For some reason you don’t believe in your message. You need to believe in your message so much that you would literally go out and knock on doors, without getting paid a penny to go and share this with people, because that’s how much you believe in it. When you believe in your message that much, then everything else will take care of itself. You will go out there, share, talk and you’re not going to be embarrassed to go and make a video or talk about it, or do a podcast, or interview someone, or drive traffic, or lose money, risking to try and do this thing. It’s not going to matter because you’re going to care so much about your message, that all those other things just fall apart.
So I would argue that if you’re struggling in your business right now, it’s because you don’t believe in your message enough. Because you don’t believe in your message enough, you’re not being aggressive enough to share it and get people. I literally want to get people when they walk by and grab them and say, “Dude, there is a better way.”
It’s funny, people ask me, I got a lot of people who just like, “I can’t believe that you talk about your competitors like ConfusionSoft and Lowkey Pages. I can’t believe you call them out and say their names.” And I’m like, “Honestly, as an entrepreneur, I’ve used those tools in the past. It was expensive, frustrating, hard to get. I feel for those people and I want to save them from these things that are keeping them from the success they deserve.” That’s how passionate I am about, I’m not afraid to call people out because I’m like, “Look, if you’re over here, you’re going to spend twice as much money, take ten times longer, and you’re probably not going to be as successful. Where if you come with us to what we’re trying to share with you, do you understand what the difference….”
That’s how much I believe in what I’m trying to share. And until you believe that much in what you’re sharing, I think you’re going to struggle. In fact, it’s interesting, this is back probably 7 or 8 years ago. Before I knew what message I was trying to figure it out. I was selling different things, I was trying stuff. I remember, I had different programs I created. Some I was insanely passionate about. Some of you guys remember Microcontinuity, I was nuts, passionate about that. And you could hear it, and the sales were amazing because of it. I couldn’t stop talking about it. That was my life.
And then I had other products that didn’t do as well, and I remember one of my friends, Garrett Pearson, I don’t know if Garrett even remembers this or not. I can’t remember where we had this conversation but it was during the middle of some other launch after Microcontinuity and he asked, “how are sales doing?” and I was like, “They’re doing alright.” And he’s like, “I can tell.” And I’m like, “What do you mean, I can tell?” and he’s like, “I can just tell by the passion in your emails about how excited you are and I know that…” and I don’t remember the rest of what he said, but I remember him saying that. He could tell by the sound of my emails how excited I was.
And that’s how he was guessing how much sales were coming. And I was like, isn’t that weird. I’m writing an email. You can’t hear my voice, you can’t sense anything, but just when I’m really believing in something, the way I speak about it and to it, is different. Enough that Garrett reading an email on the other side could tell how passionate I was. And obviously, a lot of other people did. Maybe not consciously, but subconsciously they recognized it and because of that, they didn’t buy the product.
So if you’re kind of thinking, “Oh yeah, my products good, it’s nice.” That’ll wear off in everything you do. It’ll wear off in your emails, in your podcasts, in your webinars, every single communication point. If you don’t believe in your product so insanely strong, it’s going to come off and sales are going to tank because of that. Even if you’re like, “I followed the script, why is no one buying?” It’s because you don’t believe in it enough to have the passion you need to get people to say yes.
So what I would say, for those that think that I’m marketing aggressively, or if you’re trying to figure out where you fit in this whole thing, you need to be obsessed with your product or service and your message. So obsessed that you are willing to go out of your comfort zone completely and share things and talk about things and that passion that some people will call aggressiveness, is what would get people to buy from you. And it’s going to rub some people the wrong way.
I hope this isn’t sacrilegious. It might be. I don’t think it is, I hope it’s not. If it is, I apologize and I repent in advance. But I was thinking about this, when you study Christ and you study his life and you read the Bible and those teachings one of the things that he says is that, and it’s the reason why Christ taught in parables. He taught in parables and people would hear the story and be like, “Okay, cool. I get it.” But then there’s so many layers in the parables that go deep. And he said, and I’m sure I’m going to mess up the quote, but he said something to the effect of, “My sheep will hear my voice and come to me.” Christ was speaking, giving his message and sharing things like that. And everyone can hear it. But his sheep, his people will come and they will actually follow him. They hear it at a different level that it affects them.
I think for all of you guys, it’s the same thing. A lot of people out there are going to be turned off, they’re not going to like it, whatever that is, but your sheep, your people will hear you and they will follow you.
It’s interesting, the other day we had a guy came to the office. Someone who I have tons of respect for. He happens to also be a speaker. He speaks at events and he gets paid to speak. And while we were sitting there, I kind of smiled and said, “Well, there’s two ways to be successful in the speaking world. Number one, you get paid to speak, you be a celebrity. For example, Tony Robbins spoke at our event. He’s a celebrity so we paid him a lot for him to speak.” I don’t think I’m allowed to say how much we paid him, but it was multiple six figures. It was a lot. I think we were doing the math and it ended up being $50,000 an hour that he was on stage, or something crazy like that. It’s a lot because he’s a celebrity.
And this guy was like, “Yeah well, I could never get paid that much.” I was like, “Yeah, neither can I.” but there’s a second way you can speak. So you speak and then you sell. Tony Robbins spent, X amount of hours on our stage and we paid him a lot for that, but three weeks later I spoke at Grant Cardone’s event and Grant did not pay to speak, he did not pay for my flights or hotel. I cover my flights, I cover my hotels. I did my own stuff. I booked my travel, for crying out loud. I get there and I stood on stage for 90 minutes, a fraction of the time. I did my presentation, sold my product and I think when all was said and done, I think when all the checks cleared it was $850,000 that we made from that presentation. I was like, “You can be famous and make blah, or you can learn how to sell. I got paid 4 times what Tony Robbins got paid.” Not because….and the only reason is because I know how to sell right.
So I share this story with this guy and if someone told me that, “Hey Russell, you made almost a million dollars in less than an hour.” I would have been like, “What? What did you do? Explain to me, give me that information. I need to know that.” I tell this guy and he’s like, “Wow, cool.” And then he changed the subject. He did not hear my message, he did not….we talked about it before. My sheep will hear my voice. Some of you guys, when I tell you that, you’re like, “Holy crap, I’ve got to learn that. I’ve got to master that skill.”
The first time I saw someone on stage and they sold and they did 100 grand in 90 minutes, I was just like I have to learn that. I don’t know what that was, but whatever it was I have to figure out that skill set. Because that is something I want to do, I need that. The same is true with your message. It’s okay to be aggressive. You’re going to turn off some people, but your sheep, your people, your whatever you want to call them, will hear your voice and follow you. And it’s the key.
So don’t be afraid of being aggressive if you truly believe in what you have. You have a moral obligation to share it with everybody in any way possible. If you don’t believe in what you’re selling, you gotta find something else to sell, or you gotta change your believe patterns. Because if you don’t believe in it, there’s no way someone’s going to give you money. Because their belief in giving you money is based on your belief in the thing you’re talking about. The more powerful your belief is, the easier it’ll be to get them to believe as well.
So that’s what you got guys. It’s okay to be aggressive, you’ve got to get them to believe. With that said, I am about to go. I’m starting my juice fast today. Stephen just showed up in his motorcycle, he’s got a backpack full of juice. Oh man. He’s got a t-shirt that says, “You’re just one funnel away.” I’m going to get some juice, and I’m going to go and get started. Because I haven’t eaten yet today, in fact I’m not eating for the next four days because I’m on a juice fast. That’s what happens when you binge all week, all spring break long. That’s what I got you guys, I’m out of here, have a great day and I’ll talk to you soon.
My strange encounter at the grocery store at 10:30 at night, and what that has to do with you getting more traffic into your funnels.
On today’s episode Russell talks about being recognized twice in one day while out running errands in his home town and why that makes him nervous. He also talks about the next steps he will be taking to go from $30 million a year in revenue to $100 million a year.
Here are some interesting things you’ll hear in this episode:
So listen below to find out why Russell needs to get used to being recognized while he’s in public.
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What’s up everybody, this is Russell. Welcome to Marketing In Your Car. It’s actually, I’m not sure what time it is for you but it’s late night for me. I’m coming home from the grocery store. And I’ve had something interesting happen to me twice today. I’m excited to talk about this because I’m not sure what to do with it and maybe you guys can help me. It also ties into my other, it’s a negative weight against the goals I’m going after. You guys are my therapy session for tonight. I hope that’s alright.
Okay, so the first thing is. It’s been spring break and my kids and wife and I have been having tons of fun doing stuff. We decided to get them some of those watches, have you seen those watches where you can, they can text me and I can text them, they can call me? When kids are gone, you always know where they’re at. There’s GPS on it, so any given time you know where your kids are at. You can call them, you can text them. It’s pretty awesome.
So we went and bought some of those, but they didn’t show up until today. Today we went to go get them from the store. We’re in there getting them all pre programmed, everything working and then I’m sitting there. And what’s funny is my wife, she has something happening this morning, so she got dressed up, she looked gorgeous. But me and the kids, the kids were all in their jammies, I was in my sweats. My hair’s all over the place and I’m just like, I told my wife, “I’m so sorry. We’re going to embarrass you going out today, but I don’t want to get ready.” So she looked gorgeous and we all looked like, we just got out of bed, because we kind of did.
So we’re at the store getting everything put together, but it doesn’t matter because I’m at the Verizon store, so who really cares. So I get stuff all checked out and all the sudden one of the workers there says, “Russell Brunson.” I’m like, “Yeah?” I assumed he was reading something off of whatever. He’s like, “How did you build such a big following?” I just froze. I didn’t even know what to say. I’m like, “Um…a lot of hard work.” And he’s like, “Didn’t you just write a book or something?” and I’m like, “Yeah, I wrote a book and I have another book coming out next month.” I didn’t know what to say. It was the most awkward thing. I was like, you know that scene in Dumb and Dumber where he comes out and says, “Hey Big Gulps huh. Alright, well….See you guys later.” That’s what it felt like.
I didn’t know what to say, I was so out of my element. It was just awkward. I felt bad because I was like, a horrible host or I don’t know what exactly it’s called. It was just kind of, I felt bad. And when I got in the car with my wife she’s like, “Why didn’t you talk to him more.” I’m like, “I don’t know. I could’ve, I should’ve.” It totally just caught me off guard. I didn’t know what to say. I felt bad, I hope that……I always want to be nice to people. I’m sure he’s like, “That Russell dude is weird. He seems really nice on his podcast and stuff, but he’s weird in real life.”
And then tonight, so it’s like, 10:30 at night and I’m at the grocery store listening to podcasts, I’m in my, once again, my sweats. I’m walking around getting stuff, doing my thing, listening to podcasts, having a good time, taking my sweet time at the grocery store because it’s kind of fun on late nights and no one’s around. I’m doing that and start checking out, so I take my headphones out because in case this cash register person wants to talk to me. I’m putting stuff on the belt thing and as I’m doing that, all the sudden I look back and there’s a guy standing behind me. He’s like, “Hey, is there a Ferrari in the parking lot?” I was like, “I don’t know, maybe.”
Then someone grabbed him, “The lane over here is open.” And he left. I was like, Okay, that guys must, I assume he knows who I am. Because I used to have a Ferrari, it was kind of awkward. It was kind of like, once again I was like, I didn’t know what to say. “Maybe….ugh.” I’m sure I sounded so stupid.
It’s funny because in the past no one ever knew who I was, which is nice. In fact, in Boise I never advertized hardly here because I didn’t want anyone to know. Because it’s kind of nice to have some normal life. And then it’s been funny, every once in a while, maybe twice in my life, I’ll be in the airport and someone will be like, “Russell Brunson!” and it’s kind of cool because someone recognizes me in the airport, how cool is that? But now it’s happening more often in my own home town. It freaks me out a little bit.
So why does that freak me out. I’m not going to lie, I’m kind of flattered by it, it strokes my significance and I like those kind of things, but it’s also like I don’t want to be on. I still like going home and not being on. I’ve been in the grocery store twice today in my sweats. I don’t like being on so it makes me nervous, I have a lot of fear about that.
It’s funny because this year the book’s coming out and the book is like mass market. I think it’s going to do well, hopefully. And we’re going to try to do an infomercial with it and if we do that it’s going to be on TV, we’re doing radio ads, so it’s going to be on the radio. It’s going to be out there. And then Clickfunnels is continuing to grow and there’s a lot of cool stuff happening and I’m trying to get me and the message and all that stuff out there, but then I had this nervousness of the more I’m out there the more people might know who I am, which I guess is okay, but I don’t know. It adds another layer of what makes me nervous and all that kind of stuff.
With that said, I’m going to tell you what was really fun about today. A couple of things, first off, it’s general conference. So for the Mormons out there, you know what it is. For those who aren’t, twice a year we have what we call General Conference, it’s two days. Saturday and Sunday where basically the leaders of our church, the prophet, the 12 apostles, a bunch of people all speak. We get donuts and we sit at home with the TV and watch church on TV with the kids. It’s pretty fun. That was today, Saturday and then tomorrow we have that again.
So after the conference, I went to Best Buy and I bought a blogging camera, I bought some other stuff. And basically I’ve been thinking a lot about this, one of my things I’ve been digging and drilling deep in the Inner Circle members this session has been diversity. I’ve been around now for 14 years, and I know, I remember what happened when I got slapped by Google, a lot of times, paid, then free, then free, then free, I got slapped a ton. Facebook got slapped a year and a half ago, and luckily we got through it. Facebooks been really good.
In fact, I feel like we penetrated Facebook. We kind of were all over it. I’m sure that if you ever have been on one of my pages, you see my face every day and I apologize I’m not better looking because you have to see my ads all the time. But we’re pretty much dominating Facebook, we’re everywhere. It’s fun and we’re having great success with it and it’ll continue to grow. But we’re doing really, really well there. But I hate putting all my eggs in Zuckerburg’s basket. So we do a lot of other stuff. Like Dream 100 and we have partners, so we’re growing there. But I’m also looking at what are the other core platforms, because we’re not doing great in the other platforms and I want to go deep into each of them.
I tried Snapchat for a little bit, I was pretty consistent with it too, but we just can’t. …Snapchat is hard to grow. I think I’m moving off Snapchat, so I’ve decided to give up on that platform. But I’m really excited about Instagram. Instagram is cool because it’s actually better than Snapchat, plus, easier to grow an audience. I started doing Instagram whatever it’s called, Instagram lives this week. And I already get more viewers on Instagram live than I did on Snapchat. I’m like, crap I should’ve been doing this for the last year.
So that’s been kind of a cool thing. So I had a chance to meet a dude who’s the number one guy in my industry in Instagram. He’s got a huge 3 million person following. So I’m friends with him and we’re paying him to help us grow ours and promote us. So I’m trying to go deep into that channel. So I want to just, again, it’s all diversity in platforms and channel and people. So I’m trying to go really deep into Instagram. Then my next big play is Youtube. We’ve never had an awesome YouTube and I want to own it.
So we’re launching, some of you may know if you’ve been listening to the podcast, Funnel Hacker TV, which is going to be all on YouTube, obviously on Facebook and other places, but I want to force the audience to go to YouTube to consume and grow it. So we have a lot of cool stuff happening in YouTube right now, but it’s just not growing that big. But I think Funnel Hacker TV will be because it’s actually a TV show that’s going to be awesome.
But then with that I want to, we have 10 episodes that we’ve recorded that are being edited and are mostly done. When the book launch ends, so are we six weeks away, well book launch is two weeks away, so six weeks away from launching Funnel Hacker TV. Funnel Hacker TV episode one will launch as soon as the book launch is over. And then basically once a week one will be coming out. So those will be really cool. But to stimulate those, because those take a lot of energy and effort to do it. I’m starting a Funnel Hacker TV behind the scenes, which is basically going to be me doing a daily vlog. Casey Neistat style. Yes, I have been watching a lot of Casey Neistat, I’ve been geeking out on him, he’s really cool and I like him a lot and I like what he’s doing. I may be trying to get him to speak at Funnel Hacking Live, which would be cool. So lately I’ve been watching him and I was like, “I want to do that.”
He’s awesome, he has all his own camera’s, videos himself, and edits it all and I don’t have any skills like that. So I found a guy in our community who is posting in our Facebook group. We have like 50 people asking to help edit videos, but there’s one guy that for some reason I really just liked him a lot. So he’s doing the first test when we’re starting next week. Basically I’m going to be video blogging this whole behind the scenes thing and then each day he’s going to take all the footage and dump it all in a drop box the next day and take it and try to make a video blog, Casey Neistat style, and it’s going to be living on YouTube and that’ll be kind of its home. It’ll be what, I don’t know if it’s the right word, but it’s going to help boister up the funnel hacking show. My goal is to go deep into YouTube and dominate and to own it and just figure that out.
So we’re going to be hiring all the best YouTube people in the world to get to understand it and know and spending a lot of money and energy and effort. So we can dominate that platform so that it’s a big platform as we have on Facebook. We’ll have the same thing on Youtube, the same thing on Instagram. Just keep going to the core of the platforms that our people are at. Same thing I want to master TV, I want to master radio and potentially direct my own magazines too.
So if you look at me, that’s my, in fact, I wish all you guys were in Inner Circle, if you were all in my Inner Circle, this would be so much easier, I could show you all how to step deeper. But at Inner Circle meeting I was showing people, my first 8 or 9 years of my business was all about creating offers and we’d jump from offer to offer to offer. We got stuck at 3 million bucks a year. And then as we figured out which offer was our best, which was Clickfunnels, then we shifted into instead of creating a bunch of offers, we kept one offer but then we created, I used my creativity on different front end offers to get people into Clickfunnels. My webinar, my books, all these things are creative things we’ve created to get people into the one thing we’re trying to sell, which is Clickfunnelsl.
So there’s little nuances, when I go from zero to 3 million dollars, I got stuck there for 5 or 6 years we couldn’t break past that. I was focusing my creativity on lots of new offers. When I shifted my creativity from instead of creating a bunch of offers to how can I sell more people into one offer? That’s when I went from 3 million to 30 million. And my goal to go from 30 to100, shift my creativity from different offers to mastering traffic. So my creativity is going to be focusing for the next year to two years on traffic. Does that make sense?
So in my early life it was like every month we’re launching Neurocel is our supplement. Our thing in the weight loss market, Body Evolution. Then we’ve got the thing with dating market. Then we got this thing in the couponing market, and every month was rolling out our new offer. Again, that’s where we got stuck at that level. And then when we focused everything on one offer, Clickfunnels, first it was the webinar, promote that. If you listen to the podcast, every single week for an entire year, nothing but the podcast, then we added the book funnel in there. Excuse me, the webinar and the book funnel both pushing into that. Now I got the next book, the perfect webinar script, a bunch of front ends that all lead to the thing that’s all we’re really focusing on selling, Clickfunnels.
When we focus on one singular thing, it went from 3 to 30, then we go from 30 to 100, I think we’ve got enough front end offers, I don’t want to create anything new. I just want to focus on creativity within traffic. What are all the ways we can get traffic into it? So it’s mastering all these other platforms and getting creative and figure out how we can be the best in Instagram, the best on TV, the best… and really spending the effort and energy to do that, and that’s really how we’ll scale to the next level.
So anyway, as I was showing the Inner Circle members, this is a million dollars businesses, creating different offers figuring out what people like. You go from a million to 10, to 20 it’s like, now you figured out what people like. Now focus on things, front end funnels to get people into that offer and then going from 10 million to 100 million is now focusing on creativity in the traffic.
So for me it’s like that. But the thing that sucks though is for me to go and do that and get them more traffic, what do I gotta do? I gotta put my face out there and then what happens? Its 10:30 at night and people are asking me if I have a Ferrari while I’m checking out at the grocery store. That’s my fear. So there’s the conundrum. But it’s all good problems to have.
Anyway, I just more wanted to catch up with you guys because that was funny. But a lot of times we have a goal that’s pushing us one direction, but then we’ve got our fear of something else pulling us the other way and it keeps us in the middle, and I just don’t want that to happen to me. I thought if I confessed it on a live podcast, I guess it’s live right now but it’s not live when you listen to it. If I confessed it on the Marketing In Your Car podcast then I gotta forsake it. I don’t know. I don’t know how that all works.
Alright guys, I’m done. Take the groceries in and get to bed. We’ve got a long day tomorrow watching conference in our jammies, eating donuts. It’s going to be amazing. Then Monday is when I have to repent of my sins. Monday I’m doing a week long juice fast because I’ve eaten enough carbs in the last 48 hours to basically be all next week and the week on. So I’m going to jump back into normal life mode. Plus I’m going to be vlogging, which is fun. One of the cool things about vlogging, is that it makes my life not boring.
Which is what is kind of fun about Snapchat or Instagram. It forced you to realize if your life is boring or not. It’s documenting all these things throughout the day. And if I don’t do anything, it’s going to be a really boring show. The next four days is actually insane. I may or may not have purchased a full custom fit batman suit that may or may not have showed up yesterday. So that’s going to be on episode number one. Because I gotta open it, reaveal and show JV videos behind it and a bunch of other stuff. That’s insanely cool.
Then we’ve got a whole bunch of other things. Anyway, you have to watch episode one, if and when it ever gets done. So anyway, that’s the plan, but it’s going to be fun. So I will share you guys a journey of what we’re doing to dominate all the platforms and if you were at Funnel Hacking Live, we sold a course called Fill Your Funnel that will eventually be at Fillyourfunnel.com, but the live training actually starts on Monday, which is kind of cool. But we’re taking people through this journey with us over the next year, how do we scale traffic. It’s going to be kind of fun. So we’ll probably open up registration for it in a couple of weeks, if you guys are interested. Go to fillyourfunnel.com get on a waiting list and you can get your funnel filled with prospects who want to give you money. That is my focus at least for the next 12 months and probably on.
With that said, appreciate you all, have a nice day. Have a nice night and we’ll talk to you guys soon. Bye everybody.